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Mel Mudkiper posted:don't look at me I quit the forums until chernobyl kept harassing me to come back (that's right I am throwing you under the bus fucker) gotcha bitch
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every professor who loses their mind on twitter because a student called dostoevsky "kind of dry" should follow through on their threats to resign and free up space in the academic job market
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I once told one of my professors that they were teaching the class wrong by focusing on a genre-focused analysis model of Latin American texts instead of a more valid post-structuralist model and I wish twitter was around because she got super mad at me and I want evidence. I still stand by the fact that I was right. Reading "The Lost Steps" as a "travel narrative" is a waste of goddamn time.
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Feb 18, 2020 17:49
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chernobyl kinsman posted:every professor who loses their mind on twitter because a student called dostoevsky "kind of dry" should follow through on their threats to resign and free up space in the academic job market This.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I once told one of my professors that they were teaching the class wrong by focusing on a genre-focused analysis model of Latin American texts instead of a more valid post-structuralist model and I wish twitter was around because she got super mad at me and I want evidence. extremely cool story
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WatermelonGun posted:extremely cool story see
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Just wish I had gotten it in before your edit. I've mostly given up on FB, and was a really late adopter of it anyway, but my god do I hate it.
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When you make a post that's like "I try to be sincere and then people just post dumb poo poo at me" you kinda have to expect that people are going to post dumb poo poo at you. It's like showing up to school with a note from your mother telling everyone not to pick on you. It's just going to have the opposite effect.
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Feb 18, 2020 17:59
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people should post dumb poo poo at mel not because of the sincerity thing but because hes a post-structuralist
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Feb 18, 2020 18:02
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calling people dumb online opeens up new spaces of sincerity actually
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chernobyl kinsman posted:people should post dumb poo poo at mel not because of the sincerity thing but because hes a post-structuralist fair
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Feb 18, 2020 18:03
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post-structuralists are good actually
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in 2020 we're all returning to the comforting bosom of New Criticism
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chernobyl kinsman posted:in 2020 we're all returning to the comforting bosom of New Criticism Mel and His Problems
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arent you the dude who got mad at me because I said it was dumb to seek ethical consumption in pro wrestlingCestMoi posted:dividing communicative acts into those which are sincere and those which are ironic and relentlessly categorising them in a desperate quest to discover authenticity is the sign of a diseased mind p much (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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dividing communicative acts into those which are sincere and those which are ironic and relentlessly categorising them in a desperate quest to discover authenticity is the sign of a diseased mind
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Feb 18, 2020 18:14
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i was gonna post stuff from the two worlds helldump thread in an attempt to own mel but that thread was apparently from 2007, which is 13 years ago, so instead i am going to go outside for a bit
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Feb 18, 2020 18:21
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the repeated assassination of his own posts by the coward tree goat
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Feb 18, 2020 18:22
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Mel Mudkiper posted:arent you the dude who got mad at me because I said it was dumb to seek ethical consumption in pro wrestling no that was the entire rest of the forum i just think you post bad about everything and start stupid arguments all the time and here you are, getting fussy about the times you were irritating in class many years ago. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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*throwing down a four-inch thick manilla folder labeled PROBLEMS WITH SOMETHING AWFUL FORUMS POSTER 'MEL MUDKIPER'* listen up bitch,
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I don't start stupid arguments I just say things that make stupid people mad and whoops guess what
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Feb 18, 2020 18:33
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2666 has finally gotten its claws into me. I liked part 3 a lot. I’ve gotten over the amorphous surrealism of certain sections that was previously bogging me down and kind of realized a lot of it is Bolano doing some kind of David lynch impression, which is aiding the read. Now, the part about the crimes. Wish me luck
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Feb 18, 2020 18:39
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hobbez posted:2666 has finally gotten its claws into me. I liked part 3 a lot. I’ve gotten over the amorphous surrealism of certain sections that was previously bogging me down and kind of realized a lot of it is Bolano doing some kind of David lynch impression, which is aiding the read. Its a weird book in that it doesn't end and yet it ends perfectly
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CestMoi posted:the repeated assassination of his own posts by the coward tree goat i had forgotten that he used the terminology "Homo Lumen and Homo Cthoni" to refer to the internet and real worlds and i had to take stock of my life
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hobbez posted:...amorphous surrealism ... David lynch Mel Mudkiper posted:Its a weird book in that it doesn't end and yet it ends perfectly this is starting to sound like something i need to buy
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I don't start stupid arguments I just say things that make stupid people mad and whoops guess what Looking at your av/redtext I'm going to guess you accidentally caused another 9/11?
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derp posted:this is starting to sound like something i need to buy you should read it now baby WatermelonGun fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Feb 18, 2020 |
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Feb 18, 2020 18:47
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derp posted:this is starting to sound like something i need to buy Bolano is a hard rec from me in general and I think its The Savage Detectives that has a chapter where he just starts insulting every other Latin American writer and its humorously savage. As I recall he said Vargas Llosa became a right wing ideologue because he was mad about not winning enough awards. Bilirubin posted:Looking at your av/redtext I'm going to guess you accidentally caused another 9/11? not accidentally
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ok on topic: I know nothing about Chinese lit. Hit me with a novel recommendation please and thank you
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2666 is my favorite Bolaño book, each part is a different literary experience on its own. I still ain't over the fact that Fate gets caught
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Bilirubin posted:ok on topic: I know nothing about Chinese lit. Hit me with a novel recommendation please and thank you romance of the three kingdoms
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Bilirubin posted:ok on topic: I know nothing about Chinese lit. Hit me with a novel recommendation please and thank you contemporary or classic?
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chernobyl kinsman posted:romance of the three kingdoms Thanks! Mel Mudkiper posted:contemporary or classic? Yes. I mean I know nothing so sky's the limit (don't make me a nazi)
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derp posted:this is starting to sound like something i need to buy If I hadn’t already read the savage detectives I don’t think I would have made it this far in 2666. Savage detectives is generally a lot more fun, and gave me enough faith in Bolano to stick with 2666. If you’re interested in more experimental/avant garde modern lit you gotta check him out.
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Bilirubin posted:Thanks! Well, the baseline is probably the Four Great Novels of Chinese Literature (tm) Romance of the Three Kingdoms The Water Margin Journey to the West Dream of the Red Chamber Whats fun about those books is that not only are they good, they are also essentially the ur-texts of most East Asian pop culture. Like, after reading these books, especially Journey to the West, you will recognize references in East Asian pop culture everywhere. For more contemporary, Mo Yan is fun. I also liked Yan Lianke.
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hobbez posted:If I hadn’t already read the savage detectives I don’t think I would have made it this far in 2666. Savage detectives is generally a lot more fun, and gave me enough faith in Bolano to stick with 2666. i don't like fun. i like weird, surreal, beautiful, with dark undertones
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Someone on here recommended Can Xue, and Five Spice Street and Vertical Motion (a short story collection) both knocked my socks off And yeah Mo Yan is great, I'm an especially huge fan of Republic of Wine which I've read twice
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Contemporary Chinese Lit can be interesting because it tends to be "safely subversive" in a way that you dont often see. It's a very interesting style of social criticism within the confines of not upsetting the social order. Mo Yan is a fascinating example of it because his writing manages to be simultaneously deeply critical towards and yet also obediently loyal to the political status quo.
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