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bell jar posted:I just realised Andra = Al'Lan Mandragoran 
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uPen posted:I love the Lord of Chaos cover or whichever it is that belongs in the trash romance section of a bookstore. I showed that to a friend once and she began trying to dissect the art process. Conversation went something like this: "Okay, that one forearm is really messed up ... I see what they did, they started by drawing the shirt, not what his body looks like underneath it ... what's that thing up in the corner?" "Huh? Oh... that's just a vampire," said without thinking about it. "What." fake edit: I'm missing something here.
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Mar 13, 2020 05:22
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I really was annoyed by Nynaeve up until her testing (which I just got to). I kept trying to think what the third trial must be if it's so much worse than the second, and then Lan showed up and I was like  Nynaeve you poor dear.
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Mar 13, 2020 05:23
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COOL CORN posted:I really was annoyed by Nynaeve up until her testing (which I just got to). It really cements her antipathy towards all Aes Sedai, and the whole institution of the White Tower. And then you realize every single one of them has gone through that.
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Mar 13, 2020 05:29
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Vavrek posted:
Lan goes by Master Andra in the first book to avoid notice, but it's part of his last name!!
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Mar 13, 2020 05:29
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"I hate all aes sedai." "Child, every woman who has gone through those rings has said that to me."
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Mar 13, 2020 05:31
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I just keep being surprised how many dimensions these characters are getting. It's great. I was going to say "sorry I'll stop gushing about the book now" but I guess this is kinda the place to do it.
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Mar 13, 2020 05:35
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COOL CORN posted:I just keep being surprised how many dimensions these characters are getting. It's great. Yeah, when I first started the series (~20 years ago, wow) everything seemed so flat and derivative in the first book and I only stuck with it because my friend insisted it was good, and she was cute. And what do ya know, she was right.
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Mar 13, 2020 05:39
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I finished listening to all of the books (except New Spring, maybe I will read that one also this time) and immediately started re-reading the series just so I can pick up on all the incredible little details I missed in the first few books. It really takes reading the series all the way to the end to fully appreciate all the tiny little hints and seeds of plot that start from practically page one of EotW. I suppose what I'm saying is keep reading, it's a delight, and you'll constantly be appreciating all the little details.
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Mar 13, 2020 06:10
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I enjoy how fast the series goes from "Trollocs! And a single Fade! We're all doomed!" to "A couple hundred Trollocs and a half dozen Fades - what, again? Must be Tuesday."
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Mar 13, 2020 06:44
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bell jar posted:I finished listening to all of the books (except New Spring, maybe I will read that one also this time) and immediately started re-reading the series just so I can pick up on all the incredible little details I missed in the first few books. I'm going to recommend WoT spoilers podcast to go along with a reread since someone else in this thread got me into it.
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Mar 13, 2020 07:20
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bell jar posted:I just realised Andra = Al'Lan Mandragoran Also Lancelot of the Lakes, etc. Names got layers!
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Mar 13, 2020 12:10
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Also Lancelot of the Lakes, etc. Names got layers! I don't think it would be unreasonable for Aragorn to get corrupted to Mandragoran or vice versa over thousands of years, either. Particularly if you pronounce Aragorn with a hard r.
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Mar 13, 2020 12:13
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In Australia the books were black with a WoT logo on the front in a different colour on each book. Much classier than the godawful US cover art. I really liked the art they commissioned for the Ebooks though - they got a different artist for each one and TSR in particular was great.
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Mar 13, 2020 13:11
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The Lord Bude posted:In Australia the books were black with a WoT logo on the front in a different colour on each book. Much classier than the godawful US cover art. I think I have the same books. They also have a sliver of artwork on the back which I never really got the point of because you couldn't really tell what was going on. I assume that is a piece of the US cover art.
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Mar 13, 2020 13:21
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The Lord Bude posted:In Australia the books were black with a WoT logo on the front in a different colour on each book. Much classier than the godawful US cover art.
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Mar 13, 2020 13:24
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UltraRed posted:The cover: Yes. I love that cover. All of them are pretty good though. I wish they'd kept those artworks for the paperbacks as well.
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Mar 13, 2020 13:37
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COOL CORN posted:I've been ordering the books 3 at a time via the "premium edition mass market pb" box sets. The quality of the books is good but... they all have the same variation of the WOT logo on the cover, and the backs literally all have the same text. Those are the same covers the ebook versions all got switched to, too. It makes me sad because they previously had the second run off covers for the full-size paperbacks, and those were legit beautiful.
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Mar 13, 2020 15:13
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UltraRed posted:The cover: 
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Mar 13, 2020 15:53
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Did you have that av before that post?
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Mar 13, 2020 15:55
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silvergoose posted:Did you have that av before that post? He's had that av for years.
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Mar 13, 2020 15:57
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Vavrek posted:He's had that av for years. Perfection, then.
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Mar 13, 2020 16:06
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Also Lancelot of the Lakes, etc. Names got layers! One of my favorite things about WoT is just how many layers it has. It leans almost impossibly hard into the cyclical nature of time as a narrative, with virtually every character being a reference to, or amalgamation of, multiple others both fictional and real. WoT cribs from everything, shamelessly, and treats its straight.
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Mar 13, 2020 16:06
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Galad and Gawyn are definitely names inspired by Arthurian myth right? Galahad and Gawain?
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Mar 13, 2020 16:17
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COOL CORN posted:Galad and Gawyn are definitely names inspired by Arthurian myth right? Galahad and Gawain? Yes. Arthurian myth shows up throughout the series. Callandor is the Sword in the Stone (of Tear), for example. Andor (and specifically the Trakand line) has more than its fair share of Arthurian reference tho. Norse mythology is also a heavy influencer, with Mat having strong Odin vibes and Perrin having more than a fair share of Thor.
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Mar 13, 2020 16:23
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Lan, Thom, Moiraine, Galad, Gawyn. Can't even talk about this poo poo out in the open because it would be so spoileriffic for a new reader. I mean, ok, Moiraine dumps a lake on Lan at their first meeting. And then, the final stab at Arthurian legend is ... so ... loving ... good. VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE fucked around with this message at 16:30 on Mar 13, 2020 |
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Mar 13, 2020 16:28
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And now that I'm really starting to get a good look at the Aielmen, they're Celtic as all hell
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Mar 13, 2020 16:33
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Do all paperback copies of Winter's Heart fall apart because of the size of the thing, or have I just been lucky?
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Mar 13, 2020 17:03
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COOL CORN posted:Galad and Gawyn are definitely names inspired by Arthurian myth right? Galahad and Gawain? Also, from this thread last year: Gnoman posted:"Egwinna" is one Latinized rendering of the Welsh "Ecgwynn", which was allegedly the name of an early king of England's mother. Vavrek posted:So that explains it. I'd just been going with the idea I read many years ago, that "Egwene al'Vere" was deliberately not far from "Guinevere." Layers and layers.
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Mar 13, 2020 17:33
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quote:"Egwene al'Vere" was deliberately not far from "Guinevere." oh gently caress
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Mar 13, 2020 17:35
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Every bit of old tongue is generally a pun. It helps to check the pronunciations in the appendix.
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Mar 13, 2020 17:44
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Nynaeve = nimue Morgause Moraine: Merlin (Merrilin) Sang real = old French for the Holy Grail Caemlyn / Camlaan Etc. fractally layered.
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Mar 13, 2020 17:48
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Moraine Damodred - Mordred. Caemlyn - Camlann, the site of Arthur's final battle. It's just all over the drat place.
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Mar 13, 2020 17:59
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Plus, well, Amyrlin
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Mar 13, 2020 18:19
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don't forget the famous dude literally named artur hawkwing
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Mar 13, 2020 18:25
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Rumor is that filming for Wheel of Time is now on pause. The company that was handling extras for the shoot cancelled all their calls. as an aside, where I work it's like everyone's holding their breath waiting for the other shoe to drop, just waiting for TPTB to call for shutdown and WFH. Everyone stay safe, y'all
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Mar 13, 2020 19:10
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Sang real = old French for the Holy Grail Well gently caress, this is one I didn't know. Doesn't Beowulf show up with a goblet-shaped Sa-Angreal at Armageddon too? Did you pick up on Tarmon Gaidon = Armageddon?
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Mar 13, 2020 19:53
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Doesn't Beowulf show up with a goblet-shaped Sa-Angreal at Armageddon too? FIRST TIMERS DO NOT READ Dude leads a linked army of golden scaled channellers and shoots C-beams glittering in the dark at Randland forces for the duration of The Last Battle. He's literally a loving Dragon. And Gawain and then Lancelot ride off to slay the beast.
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Mar 13, 2020 22:38
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I love Lan's internal monologue of "I can't beat this guy BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN FIGHTING FOR loving WEEKS"
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:Rumor is that filming for Wheel of Time is now on pause. The company that was handling extras for the shoot cancelled all their calls. That sucks, but is completely reasonable. Filming these kind of shows is not very compatible with social distancing. I hope the actors stay safe, and that filming can resume once the virus situation is somewhat under control.
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