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Trump is going to run shedloads of ads come November with the stimulus signing ceremony touting the $1200 he and the Republicans got everyone.
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Mar 30, 2020 23:25
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I'm furloughed from my job until May 5th. Time to reread every book, replay every vid game in the house. 
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Mar 30, 2020 23:26
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Mar 30, 2020 23:27
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Mar 30, 2020 23:34
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VikingSkull posted:the thread has mutated and is a Trump thread now i could advise mask wearing again
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Mar 30, 2020 23:37
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VikingSkull posted:How dare you folks talk about Trumps response to the coronavirus in the coronavirus thread. I mean doing so politicizes the thread and BLAH BLAH BLAH! Golly gee I wonder why people would want to talk about the inept response of a major country to a pandemic in a thread about a pandemic. Maybe Trump should stop loving things up if he doesn't want people talking about how he's terrible? Maybe you could post some examples of Trump being a really good leader and handling the pandemic well? No? Oh I wonder why that is.
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Mithaldu posted:i could advise mask wearing again it still gets in through your eyes
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Mar 30, 2020 23:38
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Let's post about our personal corona experiences instead of talking about the government, then. How many different ways can you say, "Trump is a dumbass," after all?
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Arizona finally issued a shelter in place order https://www.12news.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/arizona-shelter-in-place-order-ducey/75-fc2b364a-c0e8-45df-87ae-02cba1c8bb1c
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I said come in! posted:For those outside the U.S. wondering what the hell we are doing over here, an update: our president is willing to let American citizens die if their state governments do not stroke his ego lol. My state of WA, our hospitals are not going to get any additional ventilators or medical supplies because the governor hurt Trumps feelings. It's cool. We have a lot of companies here that make medical devices including ventilators. Also our DOH is loving awesome at making graphs: https://www.doh.wa.gov/Emergencies/Coronavirus We should really just secede from the union.
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Oh yeah, at the conference a reporter asked if the virus would come back in the fall and Dr. Fauci said to expect it. But fortunately we should be better prepared by then.
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Im Ready for DEATH posted:Let's post about our personal corona experiences instead of talking about the government, then. How many different ways can you say, "Trump is a dumbass," after all? I've spent a week painting warhammer stuff lol
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Mar 30, 2020 23:49
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Mozi posted:surgical masks don't form a tight seal so when you inhale you'll still be getting straight virusey air. but if you are asymptomatic and spreading it'll keep most of the virus in there when you breathe out; this is really the best argument for wearing surgical masks imo How do you feel about the construction type reusable KN95 masks?  https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33018278685.html https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33041774044.html https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32806448016.html Okay, you'll look like a complete idiot. But the seal looks pretty good, and the straps are adjustable. The replacement filters are far less expensive than disposable masks. And no guilt about using PPE that should go to hospitals, since I assume most hospitals don't want a bunch of random reusable masks with various sized filters donated anyway.
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https://twitter.com/greene/status/1244756410790850561quote:About 50 workers walked out Monday, according to Chris Smalls, a worker at the warehouse who helped organize the action. Amazon, which is trying to hire 100,000 workers to address the crush of coronavirus-related orders, disputed that figure, as well as the complaints that it’s not doing enough to protect workers. Only 15 employees participated in the demonstration out of 5,000 who work at the warehouse, Amazon spokeswoman Lisa Levandowski said in an emailed statement.
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VikingSkull posted:it still gets in through your eyes i have watched bird box, i am prepared
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Oh yeah, at the conference a reporter asked if the virus would come back in the fall and Dr. Fauci said to expect it. But fortunately we should be better prepared by then. did they confirm seasonality?
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Mithaldu posted:did they confirm seasonality? I mean, they didn't say "I confirm that..." but Dr. Fauci said it was definitely going to happen. I happen to trust the guy.
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Mithaldu posted:did they confirm seasonality? We have no clue about seasonality, but considering it is still spreading in warmer parts of the south, I wouldn't be on warm weather saving us
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Facebook Aunt posted:How do you feel about the construction type reusable KN95 masks? I think the problem with these is that they only filter one way. The N95 masks filler in and out, so if you're infected, you're not exposing everyone and everything around you to the virus TL;DR these only filter 50%, only in, everything going out is raw dawggin' everyone's lungs
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Stomping on workers rights while placating the boujee masses with next day delivery and a lovely streaming service.
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Hadlock posted:I think the problem with these is that they only filter one way. The N95 masks filler in and out, so if you're infected, you're not exposing everyone and everything around you to the virus Also when you wear it in an infection-heavy environment, contaminants will accumulate on the mask, this is why it's better to wear a disposable which can be removed safely and discarded. Wearing your Bane mask around is just going to contaminate wherever you leave it when you take it off.
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Hadlock posted:I think the problem with these is that they only filter one way. The N95 masks filler in and out, so if you're infected, you're not exposing everyone and everything around you to the virus
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If everyone is wearing a bane mask nobody's lungs are getting raw dogged
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The Glumslinger posted:We have no clue about seasonality, but considering it is still spreading in warmer parts of the south, I wouldn't be on warm weather saving us If it's surviving Florida right now idk how much we could expect for the rest of the country. Already 90's
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Hadlock posted:I think the problem with these is that they only filter one way. The N95 masks filler in and out, so if you're infected, you're not exposing everyone and everything around you to the virus Ah, so they are the FYGM of masks. Should be very popular then. wyoak posted:just use duct tape to tape another one on backwards, problem solved 
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Ornamental Dingbat posted:Also when you wear it in an infection-heavy environment, contaminants will accumulate on the mask, this is why it's better to wear a disposable which can be removed safely and discarded. Alcohol and a spraybottle are all you need to disinfect the reusable masks. Wipe the mask down with 90% and a paper towel, wipe your face around the mask as well. Pull off mask, remove filter media, spritz good with alcohol and let dry.
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This thing is more infectious than the flu/RSV, so it's not super-surprising to me that warm weather doesn't squelch it as much. Which isn't to say that warm weather might not slow it down, but seasonality may not be as much of a thing. Sure wish it did though. The prospect of this becoming endemic like the four garden-variety coronavirus strains is not awesome. Because those four strains don't usually lead to ARDS.
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I saw the most amazing act of social distancing today. There's an airfield near me used for helicopter piloting training, almost exactly a square mile, with a fairly wide sidewalk around it. A woman was on the inside of the sidewalk walking, and a dude was running and quickly catching up to her. Instead of running right by her on the sidewalk, he swung way out in the grass to pass her and returned to the sidewalk. Hell yeah runner dude.
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Methylethylaldehyde posted:Alcohol and a spraybottle are all you need to disinfect the reusable masks. Wipe the mask down with 90% and a paper towel, wipe your face around the mask as well. Pull off mask, remove filter media, spritz good with alcohol and let dry.
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Zugzwang posted:This thing is more infectious than the flu/RSV, so it's not super-surprising to me that warm weather doesn't squelch it as much. Which isn't to say that warm weather might not slow it down, but seasonality may not be as much of a thing. correct. most places where people congregate, such as public transit, universities, schools, hospitals, retail , grocery stores, and offices, will be somewhere in an enclosed air-conditioned container of varying 65 - 72f anyways and can last 48-hrs or more in such conditions. the capsid/lipid coating of SARS-1/2 does a decent enough job at protecting it indoors regardless of temp. outdoors, UV already does a decent job of sanitizing safely in 60-minutes of direct exposure, regardless of temperature, but i generally expect outdoor transmission to be extremely low unless you're sharing drinks at a picnic or wedding in which doesn't matter if it's cold or hot. i'm not sure there's really solid research on why cold/flu ends up being predominant seasonal, although it's still present all-year round. there's some theories like people's immune systems are weaker when it's cold, or that people tend to congregate indoors more when it's cold (i don't think this is really true, or not enough to matter), and poo poo like that. i don't think it's going to be that relevant to covid-19, at least not this initial infection go-around. Xaris fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Mar 31, 2020 |
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https://www.wired.com/story/its-time-to-face-facts-america-masks-work/quote:For a 2009 study of influenza transmission, nine infected volunteers coughed five times onto a Petri dish while wearing a surgical mask, an N95 respirator, or no covering. Nearly every time someone coughed without a mask, influenza virus showed up on the dish, but no virus was found when the volunteers wore either type of mask. Similarly, in a study still under review, 246 participants with symptoms of respiratory infection breathed into a droplet-collecting device called the Gesundheit-II for 30 minutes. When volunteers were bare-mouthed, coronavirus was detected in 30 to 40 percent of their sampled droplets; when they wore a surgical mask, no coronavirus was detected. Another study using a realistic manikin that simulated human breathing concluded that, when accounting for leakage, a surgical mask can filter at least 60 percent of 0.3 micron particles. A similar manikin study demonstrated that surgical masks reduce exposure to aerosolized influenza virus by sixfold, on average. quote:Meanwhile, several studies have tested the performance of masks improvised from household materials. A 2008 paper found that masks made from kitchen towels were about half as protective as surgical masks. For a study published in 2013, scientists compared the filtration efficiency of surgical masks to linen, silk, a scarf, a kitchen towel, a pillowcase, a vacuum cleaner bag, and masks that volunteers made from 100 percent-cotton T-shirts. The surgical mask performed best, followed by the vacuum cleaner bag and kitchen towel, but the latter were too thick and stiff to be worn for long periods of time. The T-shirt masks were comfortable, though, and one-third as effective as the surgical masks. “Our findings suggest that a homemade mask should only be considered as a last resort,” the authors wrote, “but it would be better than no protection.” A 2010 study reached a nearly identical conclusion. quote:The collective evidence makes a strong case for universal mask wearing during a pandemic. Masks are not a substitute for other interventions; they must always be used in combination with social distancing and hand hygiene. But even during a lockdown, some people need to leave their homes for essential task, such as buying food and medicine. With diseases like Covid-19, many individuals may be infected but asymptomatic, spreading the virus without realizing it. In parallel, some healthy people may not be able to adequately isolate themselves from infected partners, family members, and housemates. Masks could help reduce the spread of disease in all these scenarios. “Masks work in both directions,” virologist Julian Tang explained. “If everybody wears a mask, it’s double protection. Even if a mask is not 100 percent sealed, it is still a significant reduction in risk of transmission.”
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unpacked robinhood posted:Tremendous good brains here First off, drat that’s infuriating he’s blaming CNN for reporters asking him about what he has said verbatim. Second, what kind of insult is “I’d be so good at it, you’d look like a minor league player”. You mean second best people in the world at that thing?
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it's true that 1% protection is better than 0% protection any nerd knows that real life THAC0
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I have been having to sign a lot more papers basically "Scouts honor I swear I am not sick". Which is good if you are sick you should stay at home. But if ANYONE in the household has any of those symptoms? And you get caught? You can kiss your job goodbye. Yikes.
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I said come in! posted:For those outside the U.S. wondering what the hell we are doing over here, an update: our president is willing to let American citizens die if their state governments do not stroke his ego lol. My state of WA, our hospitals are not going to get any additional ventilators or medical supplies because the governor hurt Trumps feelings. This is the worst petty poo poo I ever have seen a "democratic" politician do. It should mean immediate removal from office. But I am sorry to say you guys are beyond help.
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So uh, where should a dumbass american who doesn't know how to sew (me) buy one of these fabric reusable masks? etsy? amazon seems like a wasteland of sketchball aliexpress crap. speaking of, any chance the surgical masks from ali aren't just made from paper towels and butchers twine? (lol)
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Xaris posted:i'm not sure there's really solid research on why cold/flu ends up being predominant seasonal, although it's still present all-year round. there's some theories like people's immune systems are weaker when it's cold, or that people tend to congregate indoors more when it's cold (i don't think this is really true, or not enough to matter), and poo poo like that. i don't think it's going to be that relevant to covid-19, at least not this initial infection go-around. One thing to note is that in the study comparing materials in homemade masks, "effective" is defined as number of droplets/microbes captured. It's not safe to assume that scales linearly with the infective dose, because small amounts of virus getting to you might be able to fought off by your immune system. Like, if you need (totally made up number) 1000 virions in your nose to get sick, and a cotton T-shirt mask makes it so you inhale 700 while a surgical mask would be 350, the cotton T-shirt mask still worked great.
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