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Argue posted:Finally caught up with TWI after saving like a dozen or two chapters for a now-cancelled plane flight. Was very surprised by Mating Rituals 2 onwards; the first one was more inconsequential but this one was actually somewhat important (and funny), and given how largely asexual the entire series has been to this point, the last few chapters have been pretty unexpected. Also a surprise was that they were quite well-written despite barely having touched on any of these topics in the past (lots of salt in the MR2 comments too, lmao), in particular the most recent nonpatreon one. I was not expecting that the true enemy of volume 7 would be homophobia. and transphobia too! not gonna lie onieva should burn pallass to the loving ground
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I am just one of the public plebs, so I don't know the latest development. But I had a really bad reaction to Relc's plot. My stepmother got into a MLM trick and just wouldn't listen to the rest of us.
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Apr 18, 2020 11:08
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Apr 19, 2020 06:12
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Take a shot every time Heather thinks "meat". The moment where Heather fucks up and forgets how to be a human was inevitable, but this was so much better than expected. Writing your PoV character experiencing things which cannot be comprehended by humans is obviously a rather difficult task, but I thought the ocean metaphor worked and it was nice to finally sort of meet Maisy. Zombie Heather just following Raine around and Raine just rolling with it is great. I also wonder if the intended takeaway is that she's actually been a soul piloting a fleshbag all along. There's been the occasional hints that her biology isn't normal (such as the fact that she's not dead...), but this chapter was more explicit about the fact that she "used" the food she ate rather than bothering with normal human biological processes.
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Apr 19, 2020 17:03
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That new Prac guide chapter is loving incredible. It's so well done, well written. God above, I just want the story to end so I can blitz through the whole loving thing, my god it's so good.
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Apr 24, 2020 05:38
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god drat that prac guide chapter really wondering what the last affray is about also digging that the bard was intentionally trying to be put in a situation where she could be perma-killed because she's just so damned tired of being the bard, or at least that's my reading
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Apr 24, 2020 06:08
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SerSpook posted:god drat that prac guide chapter comments thread seems to think Judgement (the white knight) will intervene to stop The Empress (Cordelia) from bringing doom on everyone. re the spoiler - I don't think that was the outcome she was aiming for in this skirmish, but she would have been delighted if that was the actual outcome, because it's obvious that this is what she's aiming for overall for herself.
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Apr 24, 2020 06:25
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So two goals for Bard I think 1) Die, which failed, not not necessarily her fault, and she's full on gently caress the gods now? 2) Cat replaces her, which did fail Also I have no idea what the hell the consequences of all the rest of the stuff.
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Apr 24, 2020 06:28
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I'm catching up with the last few PracGuide chapters. I'm shipping Hakram/Mirror Knight
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Apr 25, 2020 04:04
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Ytlaya posted:I'm catching up with the last few PracGuide chapters.
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Apr 25, 2020 04:18
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Ytlaya posted:I'm catching up with the last few PracGuide chapters. this is terrible everyone knows its hakram/any orc with a pulse and mirror knight/being used as a projectile SerSpook fucked around with this message at 14:09 on Apr 25, 2020 |
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Apr 25, 2020 14:06
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Dikkfor posted:More like Halfram imo Not bad I still like Hakram Half-Slain as a new name for him
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Apr 25, 2020 14:20
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Katalepsis 8.1: lol Nicky is gonna join Team Disaster Lesbians isn't she
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Apr 25, 2020 14:35
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tithin posted:Not bad He'll probably end up as a reverse Skeletor at this rate.
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Now that I'm caught up, these recent events only solidify my shipping theory. Mirror Knight was wooed by Hakram's beautiful singing, and now Hakram is going to be wooed by being dismembered by Mirror Knight, because orcs. I'm kinda curious how the gently caress they're going to deal with all the demons that are apparently loose in the Arsenal now. Aren't Mirror Knight/Hakram/Vagrant Spear basically stuck in a room with them (with the Autumn Prince also coming in soon)? edit: Oh yeah, and also whatever is going on with Red Axe suddenly cutting Kingfisher Prince's neck. By the way, was it ever revealed how Catherine avoided death when she got her neck stabbed? Was she using Night necromancy on Tancred's corpse the whole time with a glamour over it or something? Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Apr 25, 2020 |
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Apr 25, 2020 20:07
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Re: Cat. Yes, basically. It's the same gambit Black did against the White Knight iirc in the Vale battle.
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Katreus posted:Re: Cat. Yes, basically. It's the same gambit Black did against the White Knight iirc in the Vale battle. How exactly did that work with Black by the way? IIRC Hanno saw his green eyes and what have you; was he just corpse controlling someone who looked similar enough to himself? It was also kind of surprising that Catherine can apparently use Night while controlling a corpse, assuming my understanding of that is correct. Doesn't that mean there's never any reason for her to fight in person?
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Ytlaya posted:How exactly did that work with Black by the way? IIRC Hanno saw his green eyes and what have you; was he just corpse controlling someone who looked similar enough to himself? Not fully caught up on PracGuide, but I can guess at an answer to your spoiler question. The world runs on narratives. Cat is a Villain and Villains who "aren't really there" are a lot more likely to get gibbed. Heroes defeating Villians only to discover it's not really them is a standard narrative trope. In PracGuide, that would mean anytime a Villain doesn't show up in person, they hand the Heroes an extra edge.
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So I just read most of False Prophets (battletech AU self insert (though light on the self insert thank god)) and it's okay. It'd probably be better without the self insert but what the gently caress wouldn't am I right? Mostly it made me miss Soumi Warders by Dave Waino. That was some drat good BT fiction.
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A big flaming stink posted:Katalepsis 8.1: lol Nicky is gonna join Team Disaster Lesbians isn't she TWI: And thus, the Bee Rescue Team was formed. They had one mission: rescuing bees.
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Five new WtC chapters just dropped: https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/25137/worth-the-candle/chapter/489717/notes-iii
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Cicero posted:Five new WtC chapters just dropped: https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/25137/worth-the-candle/chapter/489717/notes-iii i havent read a chapter of wtc since the rape chapter and i see absolutely no reason why i should
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Sampatrick posted:i havent read a chapter of wtc since the rape chapter and i see absolutely no reason why i should Same
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Katalepsis 8.1: Nice to see Heather building up her strength and exercising more even though she doesn't think of it that way. I like seeing characters grow and improve.Affi posted:So I just read most of False Prophets (battletech AU self insert (though light on the self insert thank god)) and it's okay. It'd probably be better without the self insert but what the gently caress wouldn't am I right? Have you read Poptarts game here? I think it is at least as good as most of the published fiction.
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Apr 30, 2020 04:21
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The latest Worth the Candle chapters were a delight. I'm glad I trusted the author to handle certain subjects well enough for me and that I continue to experience joy with each update.
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Apr 30, 2020 04:51
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Sampatrick posted:i havent read a chapter of wtc since the rape chapter and i see absolutely no reason why i should Ooof. I'm so glad I stopped before that, I could see it trending towards more and more weird and uncomfortable.
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textbookOrigins posted:The latest Worth the Candle chapters were a delight. I'm glad I trusted the author to handle certain subjects well enough for me and that I continue to experience joy with each update. I'm happy for you too. I just don't trust them to handle stuff well. It's ok to like different things.
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LLSix posted:Have you read Poptarts game here? I think it is at least as good as most of the published fiction. Yeppers! Its just that the small snippets are fun and all but not really the same? If Pops would turn his LP into a more put together story? I would be so all over that. Same with Diogenes and Paradise Lost. Dude should keep the basics and just smooth out the edges and then release chapters while getting paid from like patreon.
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Sampatrick posted:i havent read a chapter of wtc since the rape chapter and i see absolutely no reason why i should That said, in terms of problematicness, the standard fridging-esque way of using rape of "wow look how bad these bad guys are, you can tell because of all the rape" is a lot worse imo. TWI is a good example here, the rape dungeon is used as a simple tool to demonstrate that despite the goblin mountain city being ostensibly more 'civilized' than other random goblin tribes, they're still super evil, because of the never ending rape. Then the plot point is quickly resolved and the women involved are sent away, never to be heard from again. The rape that happens in WtC is used to explore humanization and cultural understanding of consent for a character that's not human or even one of the mortal species: the rapist is a sentient magical item that didn't actually think what she did counted as rape. Complicating things is that she herself was seriously abused as a 'child' and then left abandoned for hundreds of years as random strangers periodically invaded her body (for those who haven't read WtC and are very confused right now: she's a magical house). Not the greatest formative experiences. Not that this excuses the rape that happens, and I'd argue that the story treats it responsibly: it's framed as horrible, and she's immediately expelled from the group to hopefully/maybe be reformed. It's not used as a cheap trick to signal how terrible Bethel is, because you already knew she was terrible from all the torture and murder and constant threats. Tom Clancy is Dead posted:Ooof. I'm so glad I stopped before that, I could see it trending towards more and more weird and uncomfortable. Cicero fucked around with this message at 12:28 on Apr 30, 2020 |
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Apr 30, 2020 12:17
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Also elves have cloakas. And the final boss is an incel rape abomination It’s a really weird serial. And yeah most of these really creepy subjects are handled in surprisingly good ways. But it’s still a very weird series.
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Affi posted:Also elves have cloakas. I actually think the Dwarf culture is rad. Well, not in the sense that I'd enjoy being in it myself, but from a worldbuilding perspective, I think the author did a good job of hitting on some typical notes (the dwarves are gruff short underground dudes and they mine things; possibly gold-obsessed) but flesh it out in a way that feels real. Like I was rolling my eyes when Grak was first introduced, but his whole companion sidequest ended up being one of my favorite things in fantasy works, period. quote:And the final boss is an incel rape abomination
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Cicero posted:No that's dwarves, who are mono-gendered and reproduce through...? I can't remember exactly. We don’t really know a lot about Fel Seed other than that there are “Brides” and “flesh puppets” and that it came through during that time Juniper was deep into psychological self-harm in a very edgelord sort of way. I have a bad feeling it’s going to be a “rape you to death” sort of thing.
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Worth the Candle is kind of hard to describe. It has all the weird trappings of a LitRPG ; levels, quests, harems, physical/mental stats, and companion characters, but it's more interested in diving into the existential horror of those concepts than in being a power fantasy. It's a LitRPG in the same way that Worm is a superhero story. It took me a long time to get into it, but I was hooked as soon as I realized what it was going for. It ended up being a real page turner. The only thing that bothered me about it was the authors habit of subverting what you expected, replacing it with something new and interesting , but then getting bogged down into thousands of words of introspection right in the middle of a chapter.
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I bailed when the dude got raped by his own house, but while I was following it I thought it was largely a really fun idea that couldn't consistently stay out of its own way. The litRPG subversion thing was a bit inconsistent but worked pretty well, I liked that the self-insert everyman introvert character was very explicitly kind of a piece of crap, and so on. At the same time I think a lot of the introspective passages were tedious and unnecessary, the sex stuff made me feel vaguely uncomfortable even before House-kun battened down the hatches, and the game theory/metagaming stuff felt way, way too detailed for what the story needed. All that having been said, I also think that an editing pass would require way less ripping and tearing than a lot of serials. Cut most of the crunchy mechanical discussion, cut the long, meandering tangents where the author tells us through Juniper about something interesting he read about the other day, reframe the angst and wallowing in introspection bits so we're not playing first-person therapy simulator (which is funny because I'm pretty sure that's exactly what Juniper is doing), cut 80% of the flashbacks to pre-game world, cut the creepy sex poo poo, and cut that bizarrely extended storyline where the deer impregnates that lady. What's left is a much tighter story that would still be pretty engaging and hard to put down. Omi no Kami fucked around with this message at 00:09 on May 1, 2020 |
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Omi no Kami posted:I bailed when the dude got raped by his own house, but while I was following it I thought it was largely a really fun idea that couldn't consistently stay out of its own way. The litRPG subversion thing was a bit inconsistent but worked pretty well, I liked that the self-insert everyman introvert character was very explicitly kind of a piece of crap, and so on. At the same time I think a lot of the introspective passages were tedious and unnecessary, the sex stuff made me feel vaguely uncomfortable even before House-kun battened down the hatches, and the game theory/metagaming stuff felt way, way too detailed for what the story needed. these are basically my thoughts on it. i think aw is a really good writer but hes just so indulgent in a way that is actually sort of uncommon in web serials. also the rape poo poo is gross. it wasnt necessary, it didnt add anything to the story, and frankly its just extremely gross.
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Omi no Kami posted:I bailed when the dude got raped by his own house Put me down as another person who bailed at this time, and all your points about the story are exactly why I never bothered to pick it back up. There's so much I really enjoyed about the story but the further it went the more the parts I did not enjoy started becoming more prominent.
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