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I don't know sorry.
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I think the Assassin's Creed movie was supposed to be the movie that broke the video game adaptation curse. Remember that the director's previous film was a very well received adaptation of Macbeth also starring Fassbender and Marion Cotillard. The cast overall was pretty high quality, and Ubisoft also had a lot more involvement than most studios in game adaptations. Obviously it didn't really succeed in breaking the curse but I think you can see where Fassbender could have felt justified in taking a... ahem... leap of faith with it. Even so, in terms of video game adaptations, it's probably one of the best. And yes that is a very, very, very low bar.
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 19:59 |
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Turns out, it was Sonic that did.
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 20:00 |
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Chairman Capone posted:Even so, in terms of video game adaptations, it's probably one of the best. And yes that is a very, very, very low bar. The best one is uh... Mortal Kombat?
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 20:43 |
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Detective Pikachu motherfuckers
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 20:51 |
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Please. Super Mario Brothers: The Movie is the best video game adaptation of all time.
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 21:00 |
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C-Euro posted:Detective Pikachu motherfuckers Ooh yeah, good call.
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 21:04 |
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sean10mm posted:The best one is uh... Mortal Kombat? This. Nothing has topped it in 25 years. It has exactly the right tonal balance for a video game movie. Detective Pikachu was fine, but it's a kids movie and doesn't aspire to be anything more than that. I'm assuming Sonic is in the same vein.
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Cacator posted:This. Nothing has topped it in 25 years. It has exactly the right tonal balance for a video game movie. Detective Pikachu was fine, but it's a kids movie and doesn't aspire to be anything more than that. I'm assuming Sonic is in the same vein. Yeah, but by this standard Mortal Kombat is an goofy 90's action film and doesn't aspire to be anything more than that -- so unless those are inherently better than kids' movies, it's not really saying much. I'm dead serious when I nominate SMB:TM, because it is unmistakably a video game movie and nothing else.
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 22:56 |
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It's a bad movie but I have a soft spot for Dead or Alive because of the dad trying to be supportive of his daugther while beating the crap out of her.
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 23:28 |
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Cacator posted:This. Nothing has topped it in 25 years. It has exactly the right tonal balance for a video game movie. Detective Pikachu was fine, but it's a kids movie and doesn't aspire to be anything more than that. I'm assuming Sonic is in the same vein. Detective Pikachu should have been a fighting tournament across regions led by MewTwo, just like Mortal Kombat
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Neo Rasa posted:At the time didn't most of the X-flicks he was in and Prometheus all do really well? I remember being similarly stunned that he was starring in Assassin's Creed even at that point. He and Cotillard did Assassin’s Creed because it was directed by the same guy they had just done Macbeth with. Also it was pretty decent
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C-Euro posted:Detective Pikachu motherfuckers Right? I didn’t realize people’s reception to it was so lukewarm. I thought it was great, really playful with the setting, basically the closest thing to a modern-day Roger Rabbit I’ve seen in years. I watched Assassin’s Creed and was struck by how utterly flavorless it felt. There are so many cool elements - the Spain scenes, the parkour, the sense-memory poo poo - but then they throw us into a grey psych ward for like half the runtime and drone exposition at us. It was such a boring approach to a non-boring premise. It should’ve had so much more fun with the craziness of that setting. I have similar complaints for Max Payne: an excellent and stylish game adapted into the most boring and lifeless movie possible.
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Xealot posted:Right? I didn’t realize people’s reception to it was so lukewarm. I thought it was great, really playful with the setting, basically the closest thing to a modern-day Roger Rabbit I’ve seen in years. "Closest thing" is true, but damning with faint praise. It's way too coy and afraid to commit to its premise to be a real successor to Roger Rabbit, although it has its moments. (Like the human-passing ditto bit.)
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# ? Apr 28, 2020 02:09 |
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I once sat in a theater behind a bowling alley to see a local theater production called Michael Bay's Super Mario Armageddon, and in a perfect world this would be an actual Hollywood blockbuster. It was one of funniest and most accurate video game adaptations I have ever seen. After the perfunctory jokes about mario brothers, like on the level of "ha ha, we can only walk to the right", it barreled into Bowser's devious plan where genetic supersoldiers kicked off nuclear destruction. The plan was called OPERATION MUSHROOM CLOUD http://www.citypages.com/arts/mario-and-michael-bay-like-peanut-butter-and-exploding-chocolate-6578956 Lutha Mahtin fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Apr 28, 2020 |
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Even though the effect really didn't work, I always dug the way the first mini-series tried to do the Fremen eyes in-camera with those blacklight contacts.
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# ? Apr 28, 2020 03:02 |
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DeimosRising posted:He and Cotillard did Assassin’s Creed because it was directed by the same guy they had just done Macbeth with. Also it was pretty decent And I remember reading that the director was pretty much obligated to make AssCreed because they wouldn't have let him do MacBeth otherwise.
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Xealot posted:Right? I didn’t realize people’s reception to it was so lukewarm. I thought it was great, really playful with the setting, basically the closest thing to a modern-day Roger Rabbit I’ve seen in years. I watched it for the first time yesterday, and I thought the pokemon designs and background appearanches was really well done. Stuff like the casual Snorlax blocking the road, or the sulky jigglypuff in the bar. But the movie felt so flat and lifeless. There's that scene where our hero is rescued by a tribe of bulbasaurs and floating glowing bulb...things. It's meant to be a scene of wonder and natural beauty, as these strange magical creatures come to save the day. But instead we get the camera lazily following him as he trudges down a river. And when the pokemon had to actually interact with the people it was really clear that there wasn't actually anything there. The Ditto fight was pretty cool though, and I wish they'd developed him more as a villain. Who is this pokemon, and why are they such a piece of poo poo?
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Strom Cuzewon posted:I watched it for the first time yesterday, and I thought the pokemon designs and background appearanches was really well done. Stuff like the casual Snorlax blocking the road, or the sulky jigglypuff in the bar. But the movie felt so flat and lifeless. I'll agree that the world-building was cooler and more interesting than the pretty by-the-numbers investigation plot, but I still liked it all around. I think my favorite moment was the underground fight club with the Loudred backing the DJ. There was a real grasp of the mechanics of this city full of Pokemon, which ones would have which jobs, how they'd intersect with civic life in official and unofficial ways. It was clever. Maybe my expectations were just that low, and I was pleasantly surprised when it surpassed them. This thread is rapidly deviating from a conversation about D U N C. Does anyone know anything about the music? I loving loved what Hans Zimmer and Benjamin Wallfisch did for BR2049, though I don't know if the latter is involved with this one. I'm guessing no Toto guitar riffs on top of an orchestra, either.
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# ? Apr 28, 2020 23:01 |
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is zimmer still trying to pull off really obvious plagiarisms? that is the most notable thing i know about him
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# ? Apr 28, 2020 23:18 |
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Lutha Mahtin posted:is zimmer still trying to pull off really obvious plagiarisms? that is the most notable thing i know about him Zimmer dropped out of scoring Tenet because Dune is a dream job for him so I'm expecting this to be some effort at the very least.
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# ? Apr 28, 2020 23:36 |
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What did he plagiarize?
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# ? Apr 29, 2020 00:42 |
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It's pretty cool if he's a Dune nerd. I don't hate the guy or anything, I just always giggle when I run across his name because of the Gladiator plagiarism thing. I don't know if he intentionally copied Holst but the Mars song is one of the most famous classical music pieces ever (!) and I don't understand how nobody involved in the film noticed the similarities. e: Jewmanji posted:What did he plagiarize? it's not clear if he intentionally plagiarized anything, but he seems to "recycle" musical themes between films, and the Gustav Holst foundation sued him at one point because of his score for Gladiator. I am no classical music scholar but I noticed the similarities myself while watching the movie. I don't know if this is the best summary but it gives a general idea: https://youtu.be/cFswFI7fqxU Lutha Mahtin fucked around with this message at 00:49 on Apr 29, 2020 |
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Thanks for sharing, I hadn’t heard that. I don’t think there’s much to it though. He’s obviously quoting Holst. And if you think it’s plagiarism, then John Williams plagiarized that same movement for Star Wars. Just listen to Mars and then the scene where the Falcon is being beamed into the Death Star
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# ? Apr 29, 2020 00:57 |
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The real crime is that Gustav Holst is still trying to collect royalties from beyond this vale of tears.
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# ? Apr 29, 2020 01:16 |
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hey if Mickey Mouse can still be under copyright even though Walt has been dead for over 50 years I won't hold anything against a foundation suing someone over something like this. reminds me of what happened with Blurred Lines but I think I wanted that to get poo poo on because it's such a loving awful song
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# ? Apr 29, 2020 01:37 |
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Mickey Mouse is about to be in public domain, or at least his original incarnation. Disney's lawyers are choosing not to keep works from public domain anymore, presumably because they can still maintain trademarks forever and sue anyone who isn't, like, scanning their own personal 8mm prints of Steamboat Willie.
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Aces High posted:hey if Mickey Mouse can still be under copyright even though Walt has been dead for over 50 years is/ought
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# ? Apr 29, 2020 14:43 |
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Aces High posted:reminds me of what happened with Blurred Lines but I think I wanted that to get poo poo on because it's such a loving awful song That decision was incredibly stupid and wrong but yeah I'm in the same boat.
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# ? Apr 29, 2020 14:52 |
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Arglebargle III posted:is/ought Can you still claim copyright when you're cryogenically frozen?
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# ? Apr 29, 2020 17:10 |
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Jewmanji posted:What did he plagiarize? The pirates of the Caribbean theme is lifted from The Lion King 2, oddly enough (although as Zimmer did the incidental music for LK1 it's not clear if it's plagiarism or not, as some things may have been kept back)
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# ? Apr 29, 2020 20:13 |
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Yeah I dunno. Plagiarism in music is a much higher threshold to meet than I think a lot of people realize (I don’t just mean in the legal sense). Borrowing a melody is a tradition as old as the western canon itself. Obviously true plagiarism exists and it’s all a matter of degrees, but these specific examples don’t seem particularly noteworthy.
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# ? Apr 29, 2020 20:48 |
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Nick Glennie-Smith (composer for Lion King 2) is a member of Zimmer's Media Ventures / Remote Control group and worked on the PotC score, so it's not surprising that something he did on another movie would be reused, especially since they had to rush the music due to Alan Silvestri dropping out.
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# ? Apr 29, 2020 20:49 |
https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/1249741945653481472 Every time I see that "@DuneAuthor" handle I want to punch windows
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# ? Apr 29, 2020 22:16 |
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MrL_JaKiri posted:The pirates of the Caribbean theme is lifted from The Lion King 2, oddly enough (although as Zimmer did the incidental music for LK1 it's not clear if it's plagiarism or not, as some things may have been kept back) It’s certainly very similar, yeah. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjCryh0norA
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# ? Apr 29, 2020 22:23 |
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A lot of film music (and other types of accompaniment music) is derivative. This is fine because I don't see how someone could honestly fault a composer for playing towards the existing cultural vocabulary of their audience, especially when the music is not the primary element of the work. I just thought it was funny how Zimmer furiously denied that he quoted or referenced Holst in any way when it came to the Gladiator score. I also still think the core thing to remember here is that Zimmer is a Dune nerd. This means that he maybe has been daydreaming for decades about how to put scenes from Dune to music. That's really cool!
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# ? Apr 29, 2020 23:02 |
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Clipperton posted:https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/1249741945653481472 His handle is a killing word
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# ? Apr 30, 2020 00:06 |
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The Butlerian Jihad being a generic robot war instead of a Luddite type thing was so dumb and I'm not sure how little Herbert thought it'd be a good idea.
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# ? Apr 30, 2020 00:34 |
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How much of those books were actually Brian Herbert? I always figured it was essentially KJA writing them with Herbert's name on them as the cost of KJA being allowed to write in the universe.
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Robots being the ultimate enemy is hinted at by Siona's spice vision in God Emperor.
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