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Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

Jedit posted:

Only a Goon would need to reach the next paragraph before realising that the people who weigh 550lbs aren't human.

Or they could be humans living on a world that was particularly high gravity

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mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Ash: A Secret History is $3.99 on Kindle. A truly exceptional tale, worth powering through the CW material. After finishing it I spent the next month or so with a mild sense of dislocation from not being in the storyspace any more.

https://www.amazon.com/Ash-Secret-History-Mary-Gentle-ebook/dp/B00GU2R3AC/

Content Warning: Sexual violence and other traumas.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

mllaneza posted:

Ash: A Secret History is $3.99 on Kindle. A truly exceptional tale, worth powering through the CW material. After finishing it I spent the next month or so with a mild sense of dislocation from not being in the storyspace any more.

https://www.amazon.com/Ash-Secret-History-Mary-Gentle-ebook/dp/B00GU2R3AC/

Content Warning: Sexual violence and other traumas.

Seconding this, it's an extremely long book but it owns. Despite the content warnings (and boy howdy are there warnings) it's not focused on being grimdark all the time. The beginning where she's growing up in the merc camp is really rough and it gets better quickly.

DigitalRaven
Oct 9, 2012




TheAardvark posted:

What kind of adult that can read sci-fi written in English wouldn't know that 550lbs is a lot? I could accept a kid or translation though.

As already pointed out, someone not from the United States of lovely Units?

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993

DigitalRaven posted:

As already pointed out, someone not from the United States of lovely Units?

I just don't think the kind of person who would read an American English hard sci-fi novel has any crossover with "person who has no concept of what a pound or mile is".

Having a lot of trouble imagining an American Sci-Fi reader being unaware that say, 200 kilograms, is an insane amount for a person to weigh.

But maybe the U.S. just does better at educating us on other countries' measurement systems.

Edit: Back to thread content, I started The Reality Dysfunction recently and if I miss a day of reading this book I can't remember who or what anyone is. Might give up on it.

AARD VARKMAN fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Apr 30, 2020

quantumfoam
Dec 25, 2003

Here's a link to the story in question so everyone can read it & figure out how truly bizzaro the planet Mission of Gravity takes place on.
https://archive.org/details/galaxy_novel_number_33_mission_of_gravity/mode/2up

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

I've been reading American fiction my whole life and wouldn't have a clue how much a pound weighs except that I know it's less than a kilo. Why would I?

tildes
Nov 16, 2018
Science Fiction Fantasy Megathread 3: 1 kg = 2.2 lb = .157 stone



Also have been working through the foundry side sequel and at the 1/4 mark it seems promising? Not having the experience of learning the world for the first time makes it a bit less exciting, but it’s also nice to be able to just start with that knowledge assumed right away.

E: didn’t think this would be changed, but I love it

tildes fucked around with this message at 06:05 on May 1, 2020

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



tildes posted:

the foundry side sequel

i didn't know this was out, thanks!

Lunsku
May 21, 2006

Got through a book order in a pretty short time, being homebound because of corona and recently unemployed shows.

I found Yoon Ha Lee's Ninefox Gambit's setting really cool and enjoyed it a ton. Definitely picking up the next two books.

Arkady Martine's A Memory Called Empire was suprisingly cozy and enjoyable, even though I did feel that not really much was happening overall. Big things going on in the background hopefully get expanded on in the next book, which I guess is due 2021.

Kameron Hurley's Light Brigade felt formulaic as far as the dystopic setting and the grunt experience went, but then it just picked up a shitton of pace. Really liked how it went, felt it was better that A Memory Called Empire as far as recent prize nominees go. I was not entirely happy with the ending, but honestly at this point reading a story contained in a single book is a blessing in itself.

Hopefully I can pick up Gideon the Ninth in the next order, EU side of the pond the print was not out for some reason at least on the bookseller I was looking at. While waiting for that I guess I'll continue with the translation of Robin Hobb's Tawny Man, I enjoyed Fool's Errand quite a bit after having read the original trilogy like twenty years ago the last time.

mewse
May 2, 2006

TheAardvark posted:

But maybe the U.S. just does better at educating us on other countries' measurement systems.

:lol:

Stuporstar
May 5, 2008

Where do fists come from?

Canada needs to be green there too. There’s a reason I can do metric/imperial conversions in my head and it’s because of so many different loving recipes where no standards exist. And also why the gently caress do I have measuring tapes with only inches on them? Where the gently caress did these even come from?

Cardiac
Aug 28, 2012

Stuporstar posted:

Canada needs to be green there too. There’s a reason I can do metric/imperial conversions in my head and it’s because of so many different loving recipes where no standards exist. And also why the gently caress do I have measuring tapes with only inches on them? Where the gently caress did these even come from?

One should say that the US scientific field is pretty much in the metric system based on the scientific journals I read. I have so far not seen a non metric unit that corresponds to a Ångström. Which makes sci-fi using non metric units kinda hilarious, but I guess there is a reason why NASA crashed a probe into Mars.

Basically the only reasons that US keep to their system is institutional inertia, economic power and belief in American exceptionalism conservatism.

Destroyenator
Dec 27, 2004

Don't ask me lady, I live in beer
I found this thread a few days ago and have been working through it, some great recommendations in here that I've put on my list.

I've been reading some classics recently and I'm currently struggling through The Moon is a Cruel Mistress. I find the slightly messed up grammer exhausting. I didn't have this problem with Stand on Zanzibar or Clockwork Orange, but I think they were substituting words rather than changing structure. Is there any thing spectacular about this book that is worth continuing or is it just "innovative for the time" classic SF?

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
It's probably the only Heinlein worth reading but if you're not enjoying it, you won't miss any earth-shattering revelations.

Antifa Poltergeist
Jun 3, 2004

"We're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you"



I enjoyed the moon is a hard mistress, but it's because I still laugh at the libertarian court chapter whenever it pops into my mind.

I've been re reading armour by John steakley and it really scratches a pulp hitch,i like imagining the story is about doom guy adventures.

mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

Lol that reminds me, I've had a hankering to re-read Stranger in a Strange Land. I know it's problematic as hell but for some reason I find it to be a comfort read.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

I remember enjoying some of Heinlein's juveniles when I was a teenager - Between Planets was a picaresque favourite - but his adult novels were like listening to a boring old fart with weird sexual perversions waffle on about his lovely politics.

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

anyone got a book about early human interstellar flight, preferably after humans discover their first planet ( I’ll take aliens too if I must).

Destroyenator
Dec 27, 2004

Don't ask me lady, I live in beer
Thanks all, I won't feel so bad about letting it go then.

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

I’ve never understood caring about the politics of a book so long as it’s a rollicking read. I loved that Bain series about the maple syrup addicted aliens despite the author being a bloodthirsty jingo.

a foolish pianist
May 6, 2007

(bi)cyclic mutation

PawParole posted:

I’ve never understood caring about the politics of a book so long as it’s a rollicking read. I loved that Bain series about the maple syrup addicted aliens despite the author being a bloodthirsty jingo.

Because the constant overt insertion of the politics gets exhausting. I started reading Monster Hunters, Inc. a few years ago, and the constant libertarian/republican talking points the characters spouted at every opportunity was incredibly tedious.

It also seems like right-wing authors are worse about this (unless you count startrek-type post-scarcity utopias as innately left or somesuch, but even then, captain kirk isn't taking five minute of every episode to expound on the virtues of economic redistribution).

a foolish pianist fucked around with this message at 14:09 on May 1, 2020

branedotorg
Jun 19, 2009

PawParole posted:

anyone got a book about early human interstellar flight, preferably after humans discover their first planet ( I’ll take aliens too if I must).

Allen Steele Coyote series

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

branedotorg posted:

Allen Steele Coyote series

see that’s actually a book whose politics bothers me. I hate the weird tangent at the end about the space transhuman feminist matriarch who tries to enslave the planet coyote, and gets compared to the ultra-right-wingnuts.

I liked the whole sailing arc though. He should just chop off the end and let it be used for firewood

as long as it isn’t Ayn Rand or Victoria, I don’t care.

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

CNC! Easy as 1️⃣2️⃣3️⃣!
Just finished Becky Chambers's To Be Taught, If Fortunate and that was a fun ride. A++ would read again.

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
Quick update: y'all did it, The Dawnhounds is going to WorldCon

http://www.sffanz.org.nz/sjv/sjvFinalists-2020.html

you're all amazing, thank you so much

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Mar 31, 2009

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pradmer fucked around with this message at 05:23 on May 2, 2020

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

PawParole posted:

I’ve never understood caring about the politics of a book so long as it’s a rollicking read.

With Heinlein at least, it's the second part of that sentence that's the problem.

Which is interesting, because his juveniles show that was he was clearly capable of it, but simply chose to be self-indulgently tedious in his later works. The only other comparison I can think of is Tolkien, comparing The Hobbit to LOTR.

calandryll
Apr 25, 2003

Ask me where I do my best drinking!



Pillbug

SurreptitiousMuffin posted:

Quick update: y'all did it, The Dawnhounds is going to WorldCon

http://www.sffanz.org.nz/sjv/sjvFinalists-2020.html

you're all amazing, thank you so much

Congrats! I read it a few weeks ago and really enjoyed and can't wait for a sequel.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




freebooter posted:

Which is interesting, because his juveniles show that was he was clearly capable of it, but simply chose to be self-indulgently tedious in his later works. The only other comparison I can think of is Tolkien, comparing The Hobbit to LOTR.

I think somewhere in the 4 year gap between Moon is a Harsh Mistress and I Will Fear No Evil switched from telling stories to talking about ideas. He was well free of any editorial constraint, had a lot to say, and used his novels to ruminate out loud. That's why his last few novels were so wordy, rambling, and ultimately philosophical discourses rather than novels with strong themes. His last book, To Sail Beyond The Sunset, is significantly tighter than his last six novels. I think he knew To Sail was going to be his last word, and focused on saying what he wanted to say, clearly and (relatively) concisely.

If you really want to see him at his best, pick up The Green Hills of Earth or another anthology. He wrote some great novels, but he was a great short story writer.

Groke
Jul 27, 2007
New Adventures In Mom Strength

SurreptitiousMuffin posted:

Quick update: y'all did it, The Dawnhounds is going to WorldCon

http://www.sffanz.org.nz/sjv/sjvFinalists-2020.html

you're all amazing, thank you so much

Good, now write more of that stuff, it was fun.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

mdemone posted:

Lol that reminds me, I've had a hankering to re-read Stranger in a Strange Land. I know it's problematic as hell but for some reason I find it to be a comfort read.

Having read it for the first time last year I think the part of it that stuck out the most to me in that specific regard was a throwaway line out of nowhere about how the white minority in South Africa is being persecuted.

Stuporstar
May 5, 2008

Where do fists come from?

Srice posted:

Having read it for the first time last year I think the part of it that stuck out the most to me in that specific regard was a throwaway line out of nowhere about how the white minority in South Africa is being persecuted.

I tried to reread it a couple years ago, but couldn’t make it past the line coming out of one of his female mouthpieces, “I now understand if a woman gets raped, she was probably asking for it.” Nope, I‘m done with it forever

space marine todd
Nov 7, 2014



PeterWeller posted:

As others have said, the Big Ant trilogy (Pattern Recognition, Spook Country, Zero History) is your best choice because it's stylistically the most similar to The Peripheral and Agency (especially Agency, which was going to be a return to the contemporary dystopia of Big Ant before getting subsumed into the Stubs).

You should give Neuromancer and the rest of the Sprawl trilogy a go at some point simply because they're so seminal to the genre.

But you should also read the Bridge trilogy at some point. They're about as dated as the Sprawl novels in terms of envisioning a future that isn't going to come to pass, but they're also still quite timely in their focus on consumerism, reality television, immigration, and interstitial communities. And they're his best plotted and most tightly written novels featuring some of his most enjoyable protagonists.

Thank you for the insight! Started Pattern Recognition and loving it already.

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Mar 31, 2009

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quantumfoam
Dec 25, 2003

SurreptitiousMuffin posted:

Quick update: y'all did it, The Dawnhounds is going to WorldCon

http://www.sffanz.org.nz/sjv/sjvFinalists-2020.html

you're all amazing, thank you so much

Congratulations, it deserved it, and good luck at WorldCon!

Heinlein: His storytelling and writing style aged super-badly. Imagine the alternate world where Heinlein never got kicked out/medical-separated from the US Navy.....heavily suspect HeinleinDianetics would happen in that alternate world.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

https://twitter.com/BrandSanderson/status/1256606686971785217

pseudanonymous
Aug 30, 2008

When you make the second entry and the debits and credits balance, and you blow them to hell.

So now they’re only asking like 10$ more than it’s worth.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer
Welp, finished up Ghost Money by Stephen Blackmoore and goddamn. If you are a fan of the series, it's definitely worth the read.

Stupid_Sexy_Flander fucked around with this message at 17:51 on May 3, 2020

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Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

pseudanonymous posted:

So now they’re only asking like 10$ more than it’s worth.

I get you don't like Sanderson's writing, but he volunteered to give his book away and Tor aren't even replacing their regular Book Club drop with it. Was there any particular need to be a prick about this?

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