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Charliegrs posted:There's no way I wouldn't disown my grandfather if he was like this. You are obviously a better person than I am. you would really disown your grandfather for making a lame comment about socialism?
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CJacobs posted:Edit: he then went on about how he wouldn't want to live in Canada because he'd have to wait for months to see a doctor because it's free and he'd rather pay to have faster visits which is not at all true and an insane thing to say but I didn't want to argue with him Canadian here. A week and a half ago I had a follow up appointment for my shoulder (broken scapula that's not healing properly). The doctor said that I might need a CT scan to see if I need surgery. I heard two days ago that I have an appointment to get a CT scan, but after that I will have to see a specialist and talk with him about the possibility of surgery. Given that this is during a pandemic, I was expecting a bit of a wait. I'm going in on the 7th of May, 2020. And I see the specialist in nine days. Exit, got the appointments out of order. Fixed Blistex fucked around with this message at 00:01 on May 6, 2020 |
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May 5, 2020 23:51
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It's not a surprise, hospitals are largely empty at the moment because people aren't going to them for stuff they normally would.
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May 5, 2020 23:53
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pro starcraft loser posted:So the chance the people 'estimating' and spreading these laughably pathetic projections will be held accountable is zero, right? Pretty sure Joe Biden's son is involved with it all somehow.
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May 5, 2020 23:58
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Il Federale posted:you would really disown your grandfather for making a lame comment about socialism? I don’t talk to members of my family less for being trump supporters, I talk to them less because they’re the type of people that support trump.
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pro starcraft loser posted:So the chance the people 'estimating' and spreading these laughably pathetic projections will be held accountable is zero, right? How do you mean? Like their projections
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May 5, 2020 23:59
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Philthy posted:Pretty sure Joe Biden's son is involved with it all somehow. we must not forget the true origins of the Hunter Flu
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May 6, 2020 00:00
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Burt Sexual posted:How do you mean? Like their projections he means accountable for getting people killed on the basis of misinformation/criminal negligence spoiler: naw
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Mozi posted:we must not forget the true origins of the Hunter Flu if you live on the east coast you have to call it the italian flu for accuracy i'll never trust another mario brother as long as i live
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May 6, 2020 00:03
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CJacobs posted:Today my grandpa mentioned that he went to a hardware store for the first time in a while and there were people lined up past the front entrance waiting to get in because it was so packed. They also were requiring masks for entry and selling them for 1 dollar if you didn't have one. But then he was like "SIGHHH that's socialism for you, cj!!" and I don't even get what he meant. What does that even mean. Is his brain just soup because of fox news and he thinks everything that's not the status quo is socialism?? How old is he? For a certain generation Socialism = queues for food or services, authoritarianism, communism
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May 6, 2020 00:27
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The simple obvious big brain solution is to wind down testing over the next few weeks and then declare victory over the viral menace. Pneumonia? What pneumonia?
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Delta-Wye posted:The simple obvious big brain solution is to wind down testing over the next few weeks and then declare victory over the viral menace. fairly like this is the administration's actual strategy. simply declare the virus "over", restrict testing as much as possible, start trying to pressure hospitals/coroners all over the country to categorize deaths as "flu" or "pneumonia" or "stroke" in an effort to keep numbers down, meanwhile pressuring states to reopen so that anyone who doesn't go to work has "quit their job" and cant get unemployment
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May 6, 2020 01:15
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Blistex posted:Canadian here. I had a pretty important test scheduled for a heart issue but they couldn’t get me in for 2 months Then they called and got me in a week earlier! Hooray! Except the DAY BEFORE they called and told me that my insurance denied covering the test and so it was cancelled. Also I’m sure it would be hella expensive since my meet and greet with the cardiologist cost $300 despite it being half covered. Now I have a different test.... set for 2 months from now. That I will have to pay for. Canada seems cool.
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May 6, 2020 01:25
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Everything I don’t like is socialism and everything I do like is America. America is blow jobs and Detroit style pizza socialism is overcooked broccoli and hemorrhoids
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Il Federale posted:you would really disown your grandfather for making a lame comment about socialism? I wouldn’t disown him.
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May 6, 2020 01:38
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I’d beat him with a rubber hose.
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May 6, 2020 01:39
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A yearly physical is worth doing just to monitor blood pressure and blood sugar. It's easy to be hypertensive and diabetic for a long time without ever knowing it, and they're two conditions that are easily managed. Also they will gently caress your poo poo up if they go untreated It doesnt have to be a doctor, even a nurse to perform home visits on everyone and make referrals for those who need further work up. Would save a lot of money and problems for everyon involved
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May 6, 2020 01:45
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Socialism: When I went to the USSR in July 1989, my tour group was on the lookout for any lines to be seen. We only got one good long line, which was in Leningrad for domestic vodka (AKA not Stoli). So yeah late 80s high school students expect communism == lines. Unburdened hospitals: My mom's friend had an x ray a few days ago and they found a tumor, again; she's a cancer survivor. They scheduled her surgery for the next day. I think this was at Stanford.
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May 6, 2020 01:46
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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:A yearly physical is worth doing just to monitor blood pressure and blood sugar. It's easy to be hypertensive and diabetic for a long time without ever knowing it, and they're two conditions that are easily managed. Also they will gently caress your poo poo up if they go untreated A routine bloodwork keyed in my doctor that my drinking was out of control and she told me to knock it the hell off before I damage something. I actually didn't realize I was at problem levels. Many people have skewed ideas of what constitutes excess. It's easy to figure that if something is not causing any obvious problems, then it isn't a problem.
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May 6, 2020 01:51
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AnnoyBot posted:Socialism: My socialism experience is knowing some Cuban people who smuggled the shittiest cheapest pc components into Cuba for making their own PCs, I guess the internet was forbidden or something until a few years ago Socialism as it has existed loving sucks, good ideas always got coopted by authoritarians
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May 6, 2020 02:00
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:Socialism as it has existed loving sucks, good ideas always got coopted by authoritarians Do Americans really think it's either one or the other? Are first world counties with social safety nets and healthcare all just like 80's Russia?
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May 6, 2020 02:15
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Blitter posted:Do Americans really think it's either one or the other? Are first world counties with social safety nets and healthcare all just like 80's Russia? They think socialism = authoritarianism.
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May 6, 2020 02:16
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Pennywise the Frown posted:They think socialism = authoritarianism. The big wall with barbed wire and machine guns to keep people in, and participating, was kind of bad optics.
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May 6, 2020 02:24
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bird with big dick posted:I’d beat him with a rubber hose. So you'd own him? drat
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May 6, 2020 02:26
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Blitter posted:Do Americans really think it's either one or the other? Are first world counties with social safety nets and healthcare all just like 80's Russia? As an American, the idea of one of us complaining about other countries being authoritarian is hilarious. In the sad way.
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May 6, 2020 02:34
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GORDON posted:The big wall with barbed wire and machine guns to keep people in, and participating, was kind of bad optics. Exactly. That was authoritarianism, not socialism. Anyone can be authoritarian.
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May 6, 2020 02:37
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Wish there were better monikers for differentiating between Authoritarian, Totalitarian, and Dictatorship regimes (Nazi Germany/China/Russia/North Korea) that hide under the name of Socialist or Communist versus the real definition of Socialism and Communism (Communism of which has never existed in any country). Like, the "National Socialist German Worker's Party" sounds pretty loving rad at first glance: (Hmmm? A social safety net/social services based government that puts importance on the lower and middle class workers of Germany which is probably Democratic by default! Cool!) Then the "Oh gently caress me..." moment comes when you find out that the above moniker is synonymous with Nazis. The term Socialism has been dragged through the mud so god drat much that the first thing that pops up in many people's minds is: Nazi Germany/Russia/China/North Korea. I don't even know if you can ever divorce those viewpoints from the definition of the word anymore. Wish there was a word for a form of government called "Not being an rear end in a top hat-ism" but way more catchy.
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May 6, 2020 02:40
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Avalanche posted:The term Socialism has been dragged through the mud so god drat much that the first thing that pops up in many people's minds is: Nazi Germany/Russia/China/North Korea. I don't even know if you can ever divorce those viewpoints from the definition of the word anymore. outside of the United States there are countries where political parties are openly able to use labels like "Democratic Socialist" or even just "Socialist" without that being immediate political suicide or making everyone think immediately and only of nazi germany and north korea Avalanche posted:Wish there was a word for a form of government called "Not being an rear end in a top hat-ism" but way more catchy. the issue isn't the word, any word can and will be abused. most people agree the idea of honesty is good, but would you automatically believe anything spouted by a political party calling themselves the "honesty party"?
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Avalanche posted:Wish there were better monikers for differentiating between Authoritarian, Totalitarian, and Dictatorship regimes (Nazi Germany/China/Russia/North Korea) that hide under the name of Socialist or Communist versus the real definition of Socialism and Communism (Communism of which has never existed in any country). Yeah, this is it For dudes of a certain age, you’re never going to make us forget 80’s Russia, the Berlin Wall falling, Cuban people risking life to leave the regime, Che Guevara murdering people, etc I mean obviously Capitalism left unchecked is a ruthless death machine, but I never saw people fleeing America to live in Cuba or Venezuela, “socialist” countries had great propaganda but always ended up loving themselves Definitely not the thread topic anyway, back to Plague Postin’
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:For dudes of a certain age, you’re never going to make us forget 80’s Russia, the Berlin Wall falling, Cuban people risking life to leave the regime, Che Guevara murdering people, etc except, again, there are plenty of other countries where openly socialist parties have had a lot more political success. do you think people of the same age in Denmark or France didn't know about the Berlin Wall or Che Guevera? the reason the word "socialism" is so poisonous in the US is first and foremost because of American propaganda. politicans run on socialist platforms all the time in other places without people immediately assuming they are a Stalinist (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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May 6, 2020 02:54
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How many people on this page are posting real politix. I’ll take a,rounded down number.
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May 6, 2020 03:00
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Yeah that is very much an America problem rather than a remembering the Berlin Wall problem Edit oh poo poo it’s the fuzz
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America is a brutish country filled with idiots, see our covid response for recent evidence
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:Yeah, this is it Something crazy high, like 30%, of east german defectors voluntarily went back to the GDR because they couldn't handle things like unemployment or abandoning their social circles
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May 6, 2020 03:04
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I think it's difficult (maybe impossible) to talk about roni in the US without talking about how it's been affected by political poo poo.
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Telemaze posted:I think it's difficult (maybe impossible) to talk about roni in the US without talking about how it's been affected by political poo poo. We're at the point in this country where everything, absolutely everything, can and will be politicized. There is no longer such thing as a benign issue. And this is outside the normal "political" spheres like economics, foreign policy, and social movements. It pervades entertainment, sports, food, fashion, spending habits, and other mundane aspects of daily life. It is as if the two sides feel obligated to fight each other just for the sake of it, no matter how petty the issue. That if the great battle is not maintained at full ferocity on even the smallest front, they have squandered a valuable opportunity to hurt the enemy (which, coincidentally, is their only actual war goal). (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Telemaze posted:I think it's difficult (maybe impossible) to talk about roni in the US without talking about how it's been affected by political poo poo. I get that, hence no blood in the streets yet. Earwicker posted:except, again, there are plenty of other countries where openly socialist parties have had a lot more political success. do you think people of the same age in Denmark or France didn't know about the Berlin Wall or Che Guevera? the reason the word "socialism" is so poisonous in the US is first and foremost because of American propaganda. politicans run on socialist platforms all the time in other places without people immediately assuming they are a Stalinist Do you see the difference? I do.
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In Blistering Whistleblower Complaint, Rick Bright Blasts Team Trump’s Pandemic Response https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/05/whistleblower-complaint-rick-bright-blasts-team-trumps-pandemic-response quote:He was pressured to invest in drugs and vaccines that lacked scientific merit, because the people selling them had friends in the Trump administration, up to and including the president’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner. He was forced to transfer funds to acquire drugs for the Strategic National Stockpile, America’s most important reserve of lifesaving medications, based not on health needs but on “political connections and cronyism.” He was instructed to use his department’s budget to purchase flu medications of questionable efficacy. And when the COVID-19 crisis erupted, he was pressured to approve a plan that would “flood” cities with unproven and untested doses of chloroquine drugs, from uninspected manufacturing plants in Asia. When his efforts to work through the system failed, he decided he had a “moral obligation to the American public” to ring the alarm about the plan, “which he believed constituted a substantial and specific danger to public health and safety.” In retaliation, he was “smeared,” with officials unfairly accusing him of dropping the ball on vaccine development and PPE preparation.
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Rolo posted:In Blistering Whistleblower Complaint, Rick Bright Blasts Team Trump’s Pandemic Response The filing is long but worth a read https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=6882560-Rick-Bright-Whistleblower-Complaint I doubt there will be any meaningful fallout from it.
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