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Attire Irony
May 5, 2009
Re: mathchat- I got kicked out of military aviation and it all started with a check pilot refusing to believe that I could figure out 90% of 200 in <10 seconds.

Bwm for me because it was a 50% raise if I’d passed, BWM for the taxpayer after $2.5m worth of training

E: babby’s first snipe:sax:

Attire Irony fucked around with this message at 05:52 on May 29, 2020

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Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

It's seriously a treat reading reddit thread an d all the ways OP can die. The best one being BEES

Attire Irony posted:

Re: mathchat- I got kicked out of military aviation and it all started with a check pilot refusing to believe that I could figure out 90% of 200 in <10 seconds.

Bwm for me because it was a 50% raise if I’d passed, BWM for the taxpayer after $2.5m worth of training

E: babby’s first snipe:sax:

I'm gonna need more context

Alan Smithee fucked around with this message at 06:28 on May 29, 2020

Attire Irony
May 5, 2009

Alan Smithee posted:

I'm gonna need more context


Edit for clarity for non-aviation folks:
I ran the numbers how I was taught and got an answer of 1.8 miles, got chewed out for wasting time doing math instead of just eyeballing it- the math was ‘what is 10% less than 2 miles.


Shortly thereafter I almost got an academic misconduct charge for doing more mental math. I figured out 2/3 of 800 seconds, and in the same lesson did some quick math to determine two planes were 10 miles apart.. Instructor was convinced that someone had fed me the numbers since neither of those maths are humanly possible and I was either guessing or cheating
:negative:

Attire Irony fucked around with this message at 14:07 on May 29, 2020

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
was there no appeals

I dont know how any of this works

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Attire Irony posted:

It’s exactly as insane as it sounds. On a radial approaching an arc, airspeed of ~200 kts. Taught to use 10% of airspeed to determine turn point (100%-10% of 200kt = 1.8nm). Turned at 1.8 dme and got chewed out. “I always just turn at 1 nm and make it work” :fuckoff:
Shortly thereafter I almost got an academic misconduct charge for doing more mental math. I figured out 2/3 of 800 seconds, and in the same lesson figured that an AC at 10 dme was >3 miles away from another AC at 10dme because it was 60 radials different (if not familiar with the math, it’s a 10 mile difference - no precision needed). Instructor was convinced that someone had fed me the numbers since neither of those maths are humanly possible and I was either guessing or cheating
:negative:

Post this in the GiP idiots thread with the knowledge that you’re not the idiot there.

Also big Isaac Asimov energy in your story.

Midjack fucked around with this message at 08:21 on May 29, 2020

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
undoubtedly a shitpost but

Tomfoolery
Oct 8, 2004

Alan Smithee posted:

undoubtedly a shitpost but

I am proud to learn that I am a 3rd connection to Chad Profitz. He has provided some excellent recommendations:

quote:

Tim Akers, or "Tim" as I knew him, is one of those one of a kind professionals you come across. If he isn't wowing clients with tales of his Real Tennis career, he is showing you various clips and articles about Real Tennis, a game that he claims exists. I would only recommend Tim if you were looking for someone in a role that was at least tangentially related to the game Real Tennis. 3 Stars

quote:

Tremendous young man. Strong, and can keep a secret. He can keep a secret as long as he lives, and he will. I know he will, and he knows the consequences if he doesn't. Great with Microsoft Office

Ideally he would add "CEO" to his titles and add "babysitting my children" to hobbies. And he will be Complete.

paternity suitor
Aug 2, 2016

Animal posted:

This week I'm working with a baby boomer who's lost one million dollars over the last three years to his side business, a trucking company he formed with three old semi trucks from 2003 that keep breaking down. He told me that in 2019 he shoved so much money from his regular job pay into the side business that he and his wife were left with just $18,000 net income to live for the whole year. I suspect he's not even contributing to his 401k because he evaded that question, and we have a generous match. This is a guy who makes over $150,000 a year as an airline pilot. I asked him why he hasn't given up on this alarmingly bad business that he doesn't need at all, and he says that if he perseveres he expects the trucking business to be self sufficient at some point and before he retires (in 5 years) it should be producing at least $3,000 net a month for him to live and that's his retirement plan. I explained to him that if he had put all that money into the S&P 500 and kept maxing out all his tax advantaged retirement accounts he would have way more than $3,000 a month during retirement. This seems to have pissed him off as if I was being insolent, and he tried to explain to me like I'm a child how once you put that much money into a business you'd be crazy to just walk away. I was gonna explain the sunk cost fallacy to him but decided to change the subject so that we can keep a working relationship for the next week.

Edit: he also told me that I should stop putting so much money into my 401k and IRA and buy rental properties. That's the ticket. That's what he should have done.

I have a friend who started making about a quarter mil a year a few years back, and received a giant chunk of money from his family, and him and his wife decided to start a VERY capital intensive side business instead of plowing it all into the stock market. It makes me sad. Like...you could be set for life. For better or worse, there's always going to be this pull to create a business for some people. It's the only way they can envision "success". When presented with straightforward path to living a low stress, great life that 99.99% of the world couldn't dream of, they say Not Today.

Easychair Bootson
May 7, 2004

Where's the last guy?
Ultimo hombre.
Last man standing.
Must've been one.

quote:

Tremendous young man. Strong, and can keep a secret. He can keep a secret as long as he lives, and he will. I know he will, and he knows the consequences if he doesn't. Great with Microsoft Office
I’m using this the next time someone asks me for a recommendation letter

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
how do you lose a million dollars in trucking, just, how. drivers run you 80k/year grossed up with decent benefits package. three brand new class 8s is at most half a million bucks and they got a warranty and everythign

i get taking an op loss in the business, margins are tight and poo poo happens, but how do you lose $300k/year consistently?

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

paternity suitor posted:

I have a friend who started making about a quarter mil a year a few years back, and received a giant chunk of money from his family, and him and his wife decided to start a VERY capital intensive side business instead of plowing it all into the stock market. It makes me sad. Like...you could be set for life. For better or worse, there's always going to be this pull to create a business for some people. It's the only way they can envision "success". When presented with straightforward path to living a low stress, great life that 99.99% of the world couldn't dream of, they say Not Today.

Yes, this is it, I think for him and a lot of people the image of success can only apply to successful business owners. Retired airline pilot with millions in the bank? Pfft, loser. Trucking company owner netting $3,000 a month? :slick:

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

how do you lose a million dollars in trucking, just, how. drivers run you 80k/year grossed up with decent benefits package. three brand new class 8s is at most half a million bucks and they got a warranty and everythign

i get taking an op loss in the business, margins are tight and poo poo happens, but how do you lose $300k/year consistently?

He says the biggest loss is payroll, followed by the tucks breaking down and needing expensive repairs (he bought old trucks), I don’t know what else and he probably is not entirely sure either. His wife is doing all the accounting.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Animal posted:

Yes, this is it, I think for him and a lot of people the image of success can only apply to successful business owners. Retired airline pilot with millions in the bank? Pfft, loser. Trucking company owner netting $3,000 a month? :slick:

As a society we fetishize entrepreneurs in a really crazy way. gently caress just look at all the MLM #bossbabe stuff. “Be your own boss” and all that. There’s also an unhealthy focus on the ones who manage to hit some niche just right and blow up huge. You never see a profile of a dude who has a small garage that just kind of piddles along and nets him and his one employee $40k/yr after expenses.

paternity suitor
Aug 2, 2016

Animal posted:

Yes, this is it, I think for him and a lot of people the image of success can only apply to successful business owners. Retired airline pilot with millions in the bank? Pfft, loser. Trucking company owner netting $3,000 a month? :slick:

I know I'm a weirdo because I think the idea of being a regular person with a regular job, but being completely set financially, is cool as hell. I love when someone is a retired teacher but has two paid off houses, a pile of money, and sick pension. That's way cooler to me than someone who opened a jetski rental place or some stupid poo poo.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

paternity suitor posted:

I know I'm a weirdo because I think the idea of being a regular person with a regular job, but being completely set financially, is cool as hell. I love when someone is a retired teacher but has two paid off houses, a pile of money, and sick pension. That's way cooler to me than someone who opened a jetski rental place or some stupid poo poo.

Yeah. it's almost like working sucks or something.

Gimmie that passive market income.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

Animal posted:

He says the biggest loss is payroll, followed by the tucks breaking down and needing expensive repairs (he bought old trucks), I don’t know what else and he probably is not entirely sure either. His wife is doing all the accounting.

what on earth, i presume he means his biggest expense is payroll.

i mean trucks breaking down and needing repair is definitely an issue for older fleets - downtime is a knife that cuts both ways because you lose revenue hours and you incur costs, but that's priced in to the fact that the trucks are cheap!!

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

New small business owner? Even money that he bought used trucks for way more than they were worth and in much worse condition than he thought.

spwrozek
Sep 4, 2006

Sail when it's windy

Because I read way too much horse news... This site popped up in my feed today: https://hungryhorsenews.com/

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

Cyrano4747 posted:

New small business owner? Even money that he bought used trucks for way more than they were worth and in much worse condition than he thought.

oh for sure, some very clever used truck salesman was laughing his way to the bank.

he's probably one of those guys who bought pre-EPA 07 stuff Because It's Cheaper To Run You Don't Need All Them Emissions Controls!!!

spwrozek
Sep 4, 2006

Sail when it's windy

Afraid of 5G?!? This 128MB USB stick will save your life.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/05/5g-conspiracy-theorists-sell-350-usb-stick-to-fight-electric-fog/

The low low cost of $350!

Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


Be better with money and buy mine instead, I'm selling 256GB usb keys for the same price.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
200 smackers for me and I’ll throw in some horse porn on the unused space

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

quote:

I [46M] promised my son [18M] that his mother and I would match whatever he saved for a car upon his high school graduation. He ended up with a lot more than we could have predicted, and now we don’t know what to do.

When he turned 16 and got his license, we allowed him to use an old car from a relative. At that time, my son had around $5k in savings. We made him a promise saying that we’d match whatever he ended up with at graduation. Reasonably, we thought he’d maybe double that to $10k through jobs and we’d match for a reasonable $20k car.

He now has $35k to use for a car. He said he did have a little over $10k but that he bought smart stock options in April and now will have around $35k after tax (personally I don’t think he did anything besides get stupid lucky).

He is insisting that we follow through with our promise and match that. Financially, it’s not a huge dent for us since he also surprised us with a nice merit scholarship (that he did earn). The problem arises in that we really don’t want to break the promise we made to him, but we also strongly believe that an 18 year old driving around in a SEVENTY THOUSAND DOLLAR car is a very bad idea. He can’t even take it to school until his sophomore year, and the insurance on that will be a nightmare.

What I am asking is, would the better course of action be to break the promise, and likely face resentment? Or keep it and cough up the money?

Thanks in advance for the advice.

https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/gswmw3/i_46m_promised_my_son_18m_that_his_mother_and_i/

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time
Simple: tell him you'll match the principal he saved, not the profits from speculating, and tell him to keep those profits as a savings/ bankroll for future investment.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.
Grimey Drawer
Man, that kid is hosed. Gonna be chasing that investing high until he's living under a bridge.

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

I didn’t know how to invest in anything in high school aside from sticking money in a savings account. Who the hell is teaching kids about this poo poo?

Anyway, BWM (for someone else) is apparently the diaper delivery service we have. We’ve been getting diapers delivered regularly for about five months. The last time we were sent an invoice was in January. We’re also sitting on two more months of diapers because they just drop off more diapers whenever they feel like it I guess. Maybe someday this company will ask us to pay for them.

Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004


Bird in a Blender posted:

Who the hell is teaching kids about this poo poo?

/r/wallstreetbets

totalnewbie
Nov 13, 2005

I was born and raised in China, lived in Japan, and now hold a US passport.

I am wrong in every way, all the damn time.

Ask me about my tattoos.
This is easy.

If the kid can understand/accept why he shouldn't be driving in a 70k car at 18 while in college, he's a good mature car and understands.

If the kid can't understand/accept why he shouldn't be driving in a 70k car at 18 while in college, he's just proven himself not responsible or mature enough to have such a car.

Either way, he doesn't get a 70k car.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

poo poo, try to get it through his skull that $70k is a down payment on a house. Just drop $20k of your own (apparently the $35k wouldn't be a burden so whatever) to get a decent Toyota or whatever and stick the rest in an account for when he is old enough to need property.

paternity suitor
Aug 2, 2016

He’s 18, his brain isn’t fully done yet

Hoodwinker
Nov 7, 2005

paternity suitor posted:

He’s 18, his brain isn’t fully done yet
Yeah, the tantrum he might throw is mild compared to the lesson he learns blowing so much on a goddamn car that young. Try to explain to him why he shouldn't do it and if he flips out just ground him, because he is still literally a child.

Hoodwinker fucked around with this message at 03:05 on May 30, 2020

Sundae
Dec 1, 2005

Hoodwinker posted:

Yeah, the tantrum he might throw is mild compared to the lesson he learns blowing so much on a goddamn car that young. Try to explain to him why he shouldn't do it and if he flips out just ground him, because he is still literally a child.

Agreed. Still, put that money into an account for him, just not for a car. That feels like the ideal compromise there; you don't renege on the deal to match his money, but you definitely stop him from buying a $70K car.

GamingHyena
Jul 25, 2003

Devil's Advocate

Sundae posted:

Agreed. Still, put that money into an account for him, just not for a car. That feels like the ideal compromise there; you don't renege on the deal to match his money, but you definitely stop him from buying a $70K car.

That was my thought as well. A promise is a promise but there's no way in hell I'd let an18 year old drive around in a $70k car that he's sure to wrap around a triee. Let him spend half on the car and keep half in savings. $35k is plenty to buy a reasonably nice low mileage car plus the inevitable replacement.

StormDrain
May 22, 2003

Thirteen Letter
My college roommate told me he set a reasonable budget for his first car of 10,000. While that's very reasonable for a reliable car in 2003, it was more cash than I had ever seen. My high school classmates thought my 98 Saturn was nice. It was, but it was not even in the same league.

Sundae
Dec 1, 2005
I didn't have my own car until I was 25. It was a 1990 Grand Marquis that cost me $250. :wtc:

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.
Grimey Drawer
Since money isn't an object, just match the funds fully and but the kids a cheap car on top of it if he agrees not to water the cash.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you
For $70k you could buy a sensible car and several awesome motorcycles

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
hell he only needs like, six or seven grand worth of biek to ensure that he won't have to worry about the other ~60k

Xenocides
Jan 14, 2008

This world looks very scary....



Congrats on learning a valuable lesson about putting a cap on your rewards and investment matching programs.

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Spokes
Jan 9, 2010

Thanks for a MONSTER of an avatar, Awful Survivor Mods!
I mean, they said they’d match what he saved and not what he got through gambling, so giving him 10k seems certainly fair

That said, money is no object? Guillotine

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