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Mel Mudkiper posted:I bought an illustrated 18th century encyclopedia of Japanese Yokai and it owns i recommend the musical rear end in a top hat-soul-extraction-based anime sarazanmai
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I bought an illustrated 18th century encyclopedia of Japanese Yokai and it owns Related: https://www.wikiart.org/en/tsukioka-yoshitoshi/farting-at-a-kappa-at-the-lumber-yard-in-fukagawa Also you just have to bow to one, and then it's forced by politeness to bow back, causing the the magical water in the bowl on its head to pour out, thereby dissipating its power to suck your soul out through your rear end in a top hat. They also like cucumbers.
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Jun 11, 2020 06:34
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it’s a crying shame that Monet etc was just inspired by the nature and scenery of japanese art and not all the cool stuff like that and the He-gassed scroll and so on it would be cool to see what Nikolai Astrup could do with farts and octopus sex
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Jun 11, 2020 07:29
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I don't get why dudes like Joseph Campbell spent all their time trying to make all world mythologies the same when the poo poo that is uniquely produced by a culture's particular beliefs and hangups is way more interesting Like, only Catholicism had to invent nocturnal sex demons to deal with the guilt of being horny in dreams
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Jun 11, 2020 12:25
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To be honest, the best stuff in Campbell and Frazer (esp Frazer) is when they go out on an absolutely wild limb based on bad or outright fabricated evidence. It has zero anthropological value in the modern sense but the result is kind of poetic imo
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Jun 11, 2020 12:42
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well dont get me wrong I hate campbell in the first place and find his entire motivations to be both pointless and poorly defended
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Jun 11, 2020 12:44
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I am trying to find a good translation of The Goetia and its funny because half of the reviews are like "WARNING: DOES NOT CONTAIN THE PROPER SIGILS TO PREVENT DARK INFLUENCE" and people being like "This is bullshit the demon I summoned never came"
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Jun 11, 2020 15:16
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Is Pastoralia a solid start for George Saunders? I read the titular story for a class once and enjoyed it, employees role-playing as cave men and going to their "Separate Area" and whatnot. I don't know anything about the other stories. The concept of Lincoln in the Bardo, at least from what I read, isn't that compelling to me but I saw it mentioned several times ITT as excellent. Maybe I just need a shove in that direction.
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Jun 11, 2020 21:58
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I think Civilwarland is the better collection but they're both great. Lincoln is really hard if you are or have been a parent of young children, but it's excellent no matter what.
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Jun 11, 2020 22:04
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Tenth of December is the best intro to Saunders I think
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Jun 11, 2020 22:06
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I think you’ll read any of those three and soon read the other two. If you have 1 minute and that’s it then read Sticks
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Jun 11, 2020 22:17
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The New Yorker still has "Escape from Spiderhead" outside of the paywall and it takes like maybe 10 minutes to read, see if you like that https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2010/12/20/escape-from-spiderhead
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Jun 11, 2020 22:33
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what saunders taught us in lincoln in the bardo is that it's funny to read about people with messed up junk (especially supernaturally messed up junk) and yet comparative few modern authors devote much space to these character concerns
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Jun 11, 2020 22:35
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What are people's favourite literary biographies. I've come to really like the genre
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Jun 12, 2020 00:52
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J_RBG posted:What are people's favourite literary biographies. I've come to really like the genre Like biographies of literary figures or biographies meant to be read as literary
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Jun 12, 2020 00:57
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Like biographies of literary figures or biographies meant to be read as literary I meant the former but I guess I'll accept the latter too
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J_RBG posted:What are people's favourite literary biographies. I've come to really like the genre
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Tree Goat posted:The New Yorker still has "Escape from Spiderhead" outside of the paywall and it takes like maybe 10 minutes to read, see if you like that This is definitely one of Saunders's best. I bought Tenth of December based on it and found that collection hit-or-miss, but "Spiderhead" is really good, and maybe the best use of some of Saunders's recurring themes from Tenth.
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Jun 12, 2020 03:47
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I am trying to find a good translation of The Goetia and its funny because half of the reviews are like "WARNING: DOES NOT CONTAIN THE PROPER SIGILS TO PREVENT DARK INFLUENCE" and people being like "This is bullshit the demon I summoned never came" This has been my experience too and I am also looking for a good translation of the Goetia
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InnercityGriot posted:This has been my experience too and I am also looking for a good translation of the Goetia My translation smells like incense even though it has been literal years since I got it because I got it from an occult co-op and so that's the version I recommend, the translation coming second in importance.
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Jun 12, 2020 04:45
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What I really want is to find a fully illustrated and translated infernal dictionary but the cheapest copies still run like 100 bucks
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J_RBG posted:What are people's favourite literary biographies. I've come to really like the genre Confessions of a Dangerous Mind
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Jun 12, 2020 05:12
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Tree Goat posted:The New Yorker still has "Escape from Spiderhead" outside of the paywall and it takes like maybe 10 minutes to read, see if you like that oh no the image is missing, the chart jeff draws in the middle of the story  what does it look like?
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Jun 12, 2020 05:35
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Carthag Tuek posted:oh no the image is missing, the chart jeff draws in the middle of the story It's just a bipartite graph:  it's no vonnegut rear end in a top hat or faulkner coffin, in the annals of interstitial prose images
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Jun 12, 2020 05:45
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How does it rank to a bolano window
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Jun 12, 2020 05:47
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ah ok i figured it would be something like that (though i imagined them in a circle). good story! e: i just remembered that diagram of how they slide on their socks in the apartment from heartbreaking work of staggering genius lmao
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Jun 12, 2020 05:47
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Mel Mudkiper posted:How does it rank to a bolano window there's a big continuum from the zodiac killer's logo all the way up to bolaño's five mexicans peeing in a urinal
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Jun 12, 2020 08:08
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the best ones are the squiggly lines in tristram shandy when hes trying to explain why hes loving up writing his autobiography
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I'm reading Clarice Lispector's short stories, in the Complete Stories collection published in 2015. So far I've read Family Ties and Foreign Legion. I found Family Ties a bit clumsy, and thought it might be a translation issue, but I loved Foreign Legion and it is the same translator. A lot of her stories are built around a single moment of profound realization that changes the life of the character (breaking out of a boring, loveless life, transitioning from childhood to adulthood etc.) sometimes without the character fully understanding the realization. In Family Ties, I felt she missed the mark when reaching for the profound, and often the prose and word choice didn't convey the moment well and seemed awkward. Foreign Legion was much more polished. There is a story based on the premise of 'what comes first, the chicken or the egg?' that has a lot to say about how society views women as mothers vs. how society views women as individuals. It also sheds some light on the recurring use of chickens in Lispector's stories. The story Foreign Legion (which is placed after the story about the chicken and the egg in the collection) includes a chick as a pet. Within the story, the presence of the chick brings on one of those profound moments for a young girl, as she struggles with between her internalized socialization to behave as a sophisticated lady and the childlike impulse to dote over a small animal. Ultimately she kills the chick, rejecting childhood and innocence. But looking at the story in light of the earlier chicken and the egg story presents a possible different interpretation. In the chicken and the egg story, the egg is eternal and sacred while the chicken is merely a vessel to bring the egg into the world. The egg is the societal veneration for motherhood, care giving and the reproduction of humanity. The chicken is the individual woman, that society does not value apart from her role in producing egg. Reading the story Foreign Legion in this context, maybe the child is not rejecting childhood, but is rejecting motherhood and the egg. She kills the chick because she does not want to become the chicken. She does not want her only value to be bringing forth the egg. She wants to be an individual valued for her own worth and not just a vessel for egg. Anyways, for those of you who have read Lispector's novels, is there one you would recommend? I'm leaning towards reading her later novels (The Passion According to G.H., Agua Viva) first since I didn't jive with her early stories. But her first novel is what made her famous, so maybe I should try that.
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ive only read the passion according to g.h. but i really loved it
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same, I don’t think you could go wrong with that one
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Jun 12, 2020 22:42
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I started with Hour of the Star but kind of bounced off it, but yeah Passion According to G.H. was fantastic and led me to buy her collected stories which are also good although somewhat mixed
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Jun 12, 2020 22:49
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I read The Chandelier earlier this year (??? I think?? Time has lost all meaning) and it was real good. Definitely need to read some more Lispector.
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Jun 12, 2020 23:05
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i loved the crazy book where the cockroach gets squished and the lady goes all nuts about it. alright i'll be in the tolkien thread if you need me
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J_RBG posted:I meant the former but I guess I'll accept the latter too My Secret Life by “Walter” Real answer: Benevenuto Cellini’s autobiography slaps.
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Jun 12, 2020 23:24
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J_RBG posted:What are people's favourite literary biographies. I've come to really like the genre Klaus Kinski's autobiography is fun and it's basically a novel.
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Jun 13, 2020 02:17
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Gunter Grass's autobiography was really good too, there's a lot of background to The Tin Drum and he talks a lot about how much of his life and childhood went into that book
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Jun 13, 2020 11:23
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Casanova's autobiography is supposed to be extremely sick and I have the first three volumes of the complete and unfucked with english translation by Willard Trask but I haven't read any of it yet so this is a cautious recommendation.
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i enjoy anything klaus kinski has done, i like the idea of just this one insane man against the rest of the world even if he was kind of a bad person
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