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Go RV! posted:I think it was figured out when this first went around a few years ago that it didn't pass muster. She's also accused A LOT of other wrestlers. Also Dave meltzer apparently. Certainly possible but also there are legit damaged people out there. Thinking about those tweets MJF posted a few months back. That said, just a quick google about this turns up an absolutely gross thread that shouldn’t be the basis of whether or not this accusation “passes muster”.
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Thanks to DrVenkman and @CommieGarfield on twitter we can summarize that riddle's wife did text the victim asking for messages Matt had sent her. the woman tweeted this as a screenshot but forgot to block out the phone number, so deleted that and reuploaded it with the number partially obscured. the reason there is a weird 'remove ads' button in the original image is not because of a fake image creator but because of a third party app, textnow, that uses ads. There isn't anything proving fake messages or anything like that
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coconono posted:Did I just get threatened by Solo Darling? if a woman actually involved in the business tells you your list isn’t that great of an idea and you immediately view it as a threat you may want to rethink what you’re doing here
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WatermelonGun posted:if a woman actually involved in the business tells you your list isn’t that great of an idea and you immediately view it as a threat you may want to rethink what you’re doing here The women leading the movement are already keeping a list of all these as well
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WatermelonGun posted:if a woman actually involved in the business tells you your list isn’t that great of an idea and you immediately view it as a threat you may want to rethink what you’re doing here Also, maybe change your Twitter name to something that’s not Derričre Provocateur
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Cavauro posted:Thanks to DrVenkman and @CommieGarfield on twitter we can summarize that riddle's wife did text the victim asking for messages Matt had sent her. the woman tweeted this as a screenshot but forgot to block out the phone number, so deleted that and reuploaded it with the number partially obscured. the reason there is a weird 'remove ads' button in the original image is not because of a fake image creator but because of a third party app, textnow, that uses ads. There isn't anything proving fake messages or anything like that Yeah just to clarify this a bit... The claim being made here is that this screenshot: https://twitter.com/EliteArtistGFX1/status/1274015554437816328 ...was in Candy's tweet originally, which she then deleted and posted this instead: https://twitter.com/CandyCartwright/status/1274012311859183616 ...cropping out both the number, and the Remove Ads button. This appears to be true, but the app she's using is just a free messaging app like WhatsApp or countless others. It's not a fake SMS creator. She cropped it to remove the phone number, not hide some evidence of faking she accidentally revealed.
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I'm starting to think the person who's constantly talking about being horny may have some problems with women
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Hopkins FBI posted:I'm starting to think the person who's constantly talking about being horny may have some problems with women e: it’s ok to be sex positive and horny but it has definitely veered into gross territory on this forum and everyone should be looking at their own behaviour in terms of how they may be contributing to a toxic culture or normalizing bad behaviour. Jordan7hm fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Jun 19, 2020 |
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Jesus. After how he responded to the gross fan after his match with Allie Kat I thought there was no way he was going to end up being one of them. I'm taking Cavauro's advice and logging off for a bit.
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Thank you for explaining all of that well instead of poorly and incompletely
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Aphrodite posted:This appears to be true, but the app she's using is just a free messaging app like WhatsApp or countless others. It's not a fake SMS creator. She cropped it to remove the phone number, not hide some evidence of faking she accidentally revealed. Someone posted a screenshot of a paid messaging app in the app store that looks a lot like her screenshots, too: https://twitter.com/kerigarner_/status/1274026857386651648?s=20
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reminder that being ironically horny still enables really creepy weird horny people.
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Jordan7hm posted:That said, just a quick google about this turns up an absolutely gross thread that shouldn’t be the basis of whether or not this accusation “passes muster”. Our very own Social Media thread discussed this moderately less grossly back in 2017 thanks to a r*v*rt sc**p, for what it's worth. This is another thing I grapple with, in terms of "the details of this story don't line up" != "the story is baseless", like details are important! But in all of these causes it's someone who experienced trauma retelling stories from years or decades ago.
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the thing about just making a list of names is you just get this onslaught of names and then there are people who are accused of being serial rapists next to people whose allegations appear to be like, inappropriate DM sliding with adults. and then just the quantity of people becomes overwhelming and people cant keep up with the degree of severity and it makes it easier for the really bad actors to minimize their behavior
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Promoter Harvey Dale https://twitter.com/princess_leia21/status/1274032938867294209 https://twitter.com/Ref_Anderson/status/1274034962207997954
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Chris James 2 posted:Completely unsurprised that girl's a Biden stan, she's used to defending predators I'm pretty sure the Biden Stan is standing up for the woman, not Riddle. As much as I would love to mock her E: also, it's a bitter pill to swallow that Cornette of all people got blasted for saying Roberts looked like a pedophile not even a year ago
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Aphrodite posted:Yeah just to clarify this a bit... Thanks for clearing that up! What the gently caress is wrong with people?
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Super No Vacancy posted:the thing about just making a list of names is you just get this onslaught of names and then there are people who are accused of being serial rapists next to people whose allegations appear to be like, inappropriate DM sliding with adults. and then just the quantity of people becomes overwhelming and people cant keep up with the degree of severity and it makes it easier for the really bad actors to minimize their behavior Absolutely.
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Super No Vacancy posted:the thing about just making a list of names is you just get this onslaught of names and then there are people who are accused of being serial rapists next to people whose allegations appear to be like, inappropriate DM sliding with adults. and then just the quantity of people becomes overwhelming and people cant keep up with the degree of severity and it makes it easier for the really bad actors to minimize their behavior Yeah, it seems a bit unfair on guys like Mance Warner whose offences seem to be "Was lewd unprovoked, has boundary issues, tried to pick up Twitter follower" when you lump them in with Actual Scumbags who should be behind bars like Riddle seems to be. It's already tough enough to focus on the most serious cases when there's so many names out there.
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Red posted:I forgot about that. Did Stroud write for xwrestling? I don't think Stroud used the X-E forums. He did, at least early on. He was Swan/Swandive.
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History Comes Inside! posted:Thanks for clearing that up! What the gently caress is wrong with people? rapists defend their own
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flatluigi posted:rapists defend their own Also people don't wanna admit that they support scumbags
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please do not fall into lazy shittiness of going "this person has political views i don't like, they must be a rapist or support rapists". it is gross and it happens all the time. also, despite being a law abiding, well behaved, respectable pervert, i will put a pause on hornyposting. i enjoy blatant hornyposting and seeing others hornypost, but it sounds like it bugs people so i can take a break.
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Wasn't Maff in a sexual predator scandal previously? Something about Homicide's cousin or whatever, like, that's how he ended up out of ROH for years and years?
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blast0rama posted:Wasn't Maff in a sexual predator scandal previously? Something about Homicide's cousin or whatever, like, that's how he ended up out of ROH for years and years? Which is obviously murky and may end up being something worth condemning Homicide for rather than seeing it as an exoneration of Maff. Honestly in either scenario (Homicide eventually dropping his grudge against a sexual predator, or Homicide doing his best to blackball a dude for over a decade over something non-heinous, or maybe something in between) I also may have missed more specific allegations re: Maff (not rumors, I saw a million of those), so please share those if I'm misrepresenting the issue. Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 19:11 on Jun 19, 2020 |
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Super No Vacancy posted:the thing about just making a list of names is you just get this onslaught of names and then there are people who are accused of being serial rapists next to people whose allegations appear to be like, inappropriate DM sliding with adults. and then just the quantity of people becomes overwhelming and people cant keep up with the degree of severity and it makes it easier for the really bad actors to minimize their behavior Yeah I’m thinking of scrapping the project all together. I’m clearly not qualified to maintain or participate like I’d originally imagined. Also Mancer apologizes https://twitter.com/mancewarner/status/1274040083981774850?s=21
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I’m so fuckin’ disgusted by male sexuality, sometimes. It’s hard to stay positive when it seems like every third guy is a sex pest / rapist / pedophile. I grew up with a friendly “uncle” Bernie, a friend of my moms who had four kids that I just loved. Spent tons of time at their place, so many good childhood memories. Swimming in the river, playing nintendo, sleepovers, a litter of puppies. Well, Bernie used to always love to wrestle and tickle me when I would go over. No big deal, Ahaha it was just innocent fun with uncle Bernie! Years later, when I was 20, I went to work for him for a couple days and it as it turns out, he wanted to gently caress me. He was offering to suck my dick, grabbing at my rear end and poo poo. I had no idea how to react, and just froze up, because I saw him as a trusted family friend, the dad of my good friends, someone I looked up to even. Then I remember back to the wrestling when I was little and how he would always ‘tickle’ my groin (ie. grab at my dick), and grind his gross stubbly, cheap cologne face into my neck and collarbone. How he would get us “as a joke” to hang our bare asses out the truck window and moon people, or how once he payed his son and I 5 bucks to run around the block naked I really, really wish I had beat his fuckin’ face in. I wish I knew how THAT felt instead of just feeling confused and upset. Anyways, I told my mom and she went in and flipped out on him and his family disowned him. I haven’t talked to his kids in years, there is still a lot of love there, I just feel really awkward and disturbed about it. I know my story i relatively minor but it always stuck with me, and made me feel weak, embarassed, and made me hate myself. I hate sex pests with a passion, shine a light on every one of these fuckin creeps and then stomp the gently caress out of them
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The hornyposting has gotten really gross and out of control in the past few months, and clearly isn't as ironic as people want to claim it is. We've had multiple people admit that it's made them uncomfortable and not want to post in certain threads anymore.
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Deafboy posted:
Doesn't sound minor at all! Sorry to hear
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Benne posted:The hornyposting has gotten really gross and out of control in the past few months, and clearly isn't as ironic as people want to claim it is. We've had multiple people admit that it's made them uncomfortable and not want to post in certain threads anymore. i barely want to post in this sub anymore. poo poo sucks.
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Benne posted:The hornyposting has gotten really gross and out of control in the past few months, and clearly isn't as ironic as people want to claim it is. We've had multiple people admit that it's made them uncomfortable and not want to post in certain threads anymore. I agree completely
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