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BB2K posted:I don't know if GU is a thing outside of Japan, but they started an Eva Collab yesterday What kind of ghoul makes a short-sleeved hoodie?
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2reachmu posted:What kind of ghoul makes a short-sleeved hoodie?  May as well be the Gendo of the NFL
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2reachmu posted:What kind of ghoul makes a short-sleeved hoodie? People who wear short-sleeved shirts year-round or like the layered look
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Robviously posted:
Get in the loving formation, Tommy.
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BB2K posted:I don't know if GU is a thing outside of Japan, but they started an Eva Collab yesterday Anyone know if there is a way to order from here to the US? Also here's another look at Unit O2 
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The REAL Goobusters posted:Anyone know if there is a way to order from here to the US? They probably won’t ship direct but you can get a forwarder like Tenso to move it to you. You may have trouble paying with a credit card issued outside of Japan, not much of a way around that. Also remember that Asian clothes are generally a size or two smaller than US equivalent so order a little bigger.
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Midjack posted:They probably won’t ship direct but you can get a forwarder like Tenso to move it to you. You may have trouble paying with a credit card issued outside of Japan, not much of a way around that. Also remember that Asian clothes are generally a size or two smaller than US equivalent so order a little bigger. Thanks for the heads up! I just hit up a friend in Japan if he could buy and ship it to me, and then yeah looked up a sizing guide online.
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The REAL Goobusters posted:Anyone know if there is a way to order from here to the US?
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Red Crown posted:Had a down weekend and finally got around to watching the Netflix edition of the TV series and EoE. I'd never seen either before and barely had any idea what they were about. I could write for pages in answer to your questions, but the easiest way explain is: Evangelion is partially a show about robots but also a character study of psychologically damaged people. I personally think it was a form of therapy for Anno ( or a mirror for his own psychological growth), that Anno wanted to express his own ideas about psychological growth, life and the human condition. It is why episode 25/26 and the last 20 minutes of EOE are talking about Shinji and his interactions in life. Shinji thinks that life is painful and hides away from that pain, he thinks that it is easier to hide away than be hurt. He thinks that others know better and that they will keep him safe and make him happy. Shinji thinks that he has to adapt himself to gain happiness and validation from existence rather than be his inner self (easier not to be hurt when you are what people want you to be....). NGE and EoE are the brutal portrayal of how psychologically painful and damaging such beliefs are to Shinji (Though NGE and EoE shows that characters like Asuka, Misato, Rei ... EVEN Gendo are the result of damaged/trauma influenced beliefs also). I love the last 20 minutes of EOE because it is where Shinji is able to truly observe and understand his situation and finally grow to accept himself, engage with life knowing that though it can be painful, he has a chance to be happy if he chooses to be truly his autonomous self(a psychological state of growth which is immensely difficult to attain). To me I will always remember it for the line "After all, you are alive, so you will always have the chance to be happy" NGE I suspect, also is a attempt by Anno to create a show that induces this type of observance and growth in the viewers, especially those who escape into fantasy. Something that is... instrumental in helping humans grow and develop into better people. EOE was episode 25/26 if they had the budget to finish the series. Foul Ole Ron fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Jun 21, 2020 |
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I mean, "X is partly a story about Y but it's also a story about people" is true for every story that features people and some that don't.
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The Netflix dubbed End of Evangelion as well? Did they fix the butchering of the word "Eva"?
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no and they ruined the best line in the whole movie (“i’m so hosed up” -> “i’m the lowest of the low”
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The Netflix version of Eva is irredeemably bad. Stick with the ADV dub.
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i don’t think it’s that awful BUT between that line and the kowaru Line translations it ain’t great. I think it’s acted fine at least?
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for the acting, trans shinji is pretty good but asuka sucks and rei is rei. it's fine but if you really have to watch the dub, the ADV one is better imo. as to the translations, it's pretty bad and weird but you won't miss out on any major plot stuff, just a lot of the idiosyncrasies and character. it's not inexcusable to watch the Netflix version, but i don't know any fans who prefer it. and i really wish people would stop saying ep 25/26 were because of low budget. it's a myth that comes up all the time without any backing outside of fan theories. Million Ghosts fucked around with this message at 06:03 on Jun 22, 2020 |
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There's never been any kind of evidence that Evangelion ever had budget problems Now, on the other hand, there's been plenty of evidence that Evangelion had production problems, specifically due to a bizarre work pipeline where episodes where being rewritten up until the last possible second. Kazuya Tsurumaki referred to the production schedule as a "disaster" in an interview. Basically 25/26 aren't the way they are because of money, but because of time. 26 was, start to finish, made in three days. Blockhouse fucked around with this message at 06:16 on Jun 22, 2020 |
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Rad that they made a masterpiece in 3 days.
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Million Ghosts posted:trans shinji  Beefstew posted:The Netflix version of Eva is irredeemably bad. Stick with the subs
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My ideal Evangelion TV dub is Casey Mongillo's Shinji plus Funimation's Rebuild of Eva dub cast and a Funimation script that probably would have been better than ADV's but not nearly as stiff and literal and boring as the Netflix one Just sort of mashing everything together like a Dub Instrumentality Project.
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I still find it so weird that the Eva/Xenogears parallels extend all the way to both having completely insane and incoherent final acts due to production troubles.
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Also to really hammer home the budget thing: anime shows don't 'run out of budget'. They run out of time, they run out of skilled artists, they don't run out of money. TV Anime is actually pretty cheap to make as far as animation goes, and every show tends to have around the same budget give or take a little. If you look at a show and go "wow this looks cheap", that's not because it's actually cheap, it's because the staff animating the episode are inexperienced or just straight up not good at what they're being asked to do, or they're normally good but did not have nearly enough time to do a good job.
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Usually the cause of “budget” issues in anime is just bad direction, nobody’s given timely instructions and production hours get wasted
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Pretty good posted:I still find it so weird that the Eva/Xenogears parallels extend all the way to both having completely insane and incoherent final acts due to production troubles. The key difference is that Tetsuya Takahashi eventually "got one right" with Xenoblade Chronicles; he hasn't delivered a full-package game like that since (or before, really), but that's another story. Hideki Anno, meanwhile, is still trying to find a way to "stick the landing" on Evangelion, and we're all waiting with baited breath to see if 3.0+1.0 is that long-awaited moon shot or not.
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Beefstew posted:Stick with the ADV dub. Also irredeemably bad. Blockhouse posted:26 was, start to finish, made in three days. People say this but it's a misinterpretation. It was written in three days in January, animated in February/March, dubbed first half of March, broadcast final week of March. Evangelion episodes have two rough drafts, a final draft, a storyboard, layout animatics, key animation, tweening, painting, photography, dialog recording, sfx dubbing, and editing. And while everyone thinks of the hand drawn marker pen sequence and the pencil animation sequence people forget there's a literal 4 minute chunk of actual animated cels. 3 months is very tight and is why it turned out the way it did, but you can't do all of this in 3 days.
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what? i like the performance a lot and it brings an interesting angle to the character. it'd be way better if they kept the entire Kaworu plot intact, but Mongillo's acting is very good despite what they had to work with and what was cut. for the record, it's not a slur, i'm trans.
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Yeah, I’m at least willing to say that Mongillo was a worthy successor to Spencer’s performance as Shinji. I blame most of the issues with the Netflix version on Khara being a bunch of overbearing jackasses with regards to the script.
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Million Ghosts posted:what? i like the performance a lot and it brings an interesting angle to the character. it'd be way better if they kept the entire Kaworu plot intact, but Mongillo's acting is very good despite what they had to work with and what was cut. for the record, it's not a slur, i'm trans. That's not a sarcastic emote, that poster appreciates your take.
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Classon Ave. Robot posted:That's not a sarcastic emote, that poster appreciates your take. Million Ghosts posted:what? i like the performance a lot and it brings an interesting angle to the character. it'd be way better if they kept the entire Kaworu plot intact, but Mongillo's acting is very good despite what they had to work with and what was cut. for the record, it's not a slur, i'm trans. i am also trans  and yes, it was an unironic appreciation post
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I dont think anyone has a huge issue with the Netflix cast. Preferences are preferences, but i don't remember anyone seriously sticking out like a sore thumb. The localization itself is the issue. It's rear end.
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Shinjobi posted:I dont think anyone has a huge issue with the Netflix cast. Preferences are preferences, but i don't remember anyone seriously sticking out like a sore thumb. Also the fact that the original cast petitioned to be included, at least as an alternate dub track, since Netflix owns the rights to it, and they just said "nah". And the fact that Netflix flew them down to audition and basically told them that they were just doing this for PR purposes and didn't plan on seriously considering them. And then Netflix threatened Tiffany Grant and Amanda Winn Lee with legal action and mandated that they stop speaking negatively about the dub in public. (I know this because I spoke to the two of them personally.) In other words, Khara sucks poo poo and the localization sucks poo poo, but Netflix is also guilty. Gainax/Khara supposedly tried to push the same lovely scripts on ADV and Funimation, but they were smart enough to push back and handle their own vocalizations. Netflix just rolled over because they well and truly don't give a gently caress about the product they're releasing. After all, the billion dollar company was apparently too cheap to license Fly Me to the Moon.
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Szmitten posted:Also irredeemably bad. Ah, that makes more sense.
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The line about Kaworu's grace or whatever was enough for me to disavow the new localization forever. I'm sure the voice actors are fine but the old ones were too.
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I’m just glad that the old dub gave some work for Eddy after he grew up and left the cul-de-sac.
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Regalingualius posted:I’m just glad that the old dub gave some work for Eddy after he grew up and left the cul-de-sac. EVERY SINGLE MISSILE HIT THE TARGET! AAAAAAAH
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Stairmaster posted:The Eva dub predates Ed edd and eddy it old
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