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System Metternich: Feb 28, 2010; But what did he mean by that?

I have a hard time understanding it and only get like two thirds, but I have virtually no experience in listening to it either and come from a totally different dialect region to boot. A friend of mine who grew up 50km away from the border has absolutely no problems with it on the other hand and when she speaks dialect it sounds pretty similar to L�tzebuergesch to my untrained ears

System Metternich fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Jun 22, 2020

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Smirr: Jun 28, 2012

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

Do luxemburgers not play tag?

Also, out of curiosity, can germans understand luxemburgish? I think that's what it's called.

Not really, no. When I was in Luxembourg as a kid and someone tried to chat me up in Luxembourgish, I could just smile and nod sheepishly. When I now listen to it as an adult, it sounds like a Rhinelander doing an extremely racist impression of a French accent that is about 50% intelligible. That said, there's a dialect continuum where people from along the Mosel also sound kind of like that (and I probably couldn't really understand them either).

# ? Jun 22, 2020 20:26

System Metternich: Feb 28, 2010; But what did he mean by that?

Quick dialect study before going to bed: I'm looking at the results of the Wenker survey (an extremely detailed late 19th century study on German dialects) for a random Luxemburg village (in this case Breidweiler), a German village right on the border (Biesdorf), the Eifel village my friend is from (Schalkenmehren) and just for fun a random Bavarian village too (Zillendorf in the Upper Palatinate region). I'll be transcribing the replies to the sentences 1, 10 and 33 each:

Standard German

Im Winter fliegen die trockenen Bl�tter in der Luft herum. (=In winter the dry leaves fly around through the air)
Ich will es auch nicht mehr wieder tun. (=I won't do it again)
Sein Bruder will sich zwei sch�ne neue H�user in eurem Garten bauen. (=His brother wants to build two beautiful new houses in your garden)

Breidweiler

Am Wanter fl�en de drechen Bl�der an der L�ucht erem.
Ech woell et och net m� don!
Se� Bruoder welt sech zw� schener neuer Heiser an �rem Gard bauen.

Biesdorf

Amm Wanter flehen de drechn Bleder durch'd Lujt rem.
Ich well et och net me dohn.
Sei Broder well sich zw� sching nei Heiser an eierem Goart bauen.

Schalkenmehren

De Wunter flougen de trei Bl�dder dorch de Loft erim.
Ech well et och net mieh dohn.
Sei Broder wellt sich zwai schiener neuer Haiser unn eierem Goorde bauen.

Zillendorf

In Winta fluign d� truken Bladla en da Luft umanena.
I wils a nima thuan.
San Bruada w�l s� zwoa schene nui H��a in engan Goartn ban.

System Metternich fucked around with this message at 07:13 on Jun 23, 2020

# ? Jun 22, 2020 22:06

Tree Bucket: Apr 1, 2016; R.I.P.idura leucophrys

I just need to know why, in my corner of rural Australia at least, the name for the chasing game comes from northern Wales, while the name for the safe spot comes from... Munster? I don't even know how to make the umlaut appear.

# ? Jun 23, 2020 03:47

System Metternich: Feb 28, 2010; But what did he mean by that?

Tree Bucket posted:

I just need to know why, in my corner of rural Australia at least, the name for the chasing game comes from northern Wales, while the name for the safe spot comes from... Munster? I don't even know how to make the umlaut appear.

If it�s "Packs" it might be a rendering of Latin pax, 'peace' and thus might have developed independently

# ? Jun 23, 2020 05:22

Carbon dioxide: Oct 9, 2012

Tree Bucket posted:

I just need to know why, in my corner of rural Australia at least, the name for the chasing game comes from northern Wales, while the name for the safe spot comes from... Munster? I don't even know how to make the umlaut appear.

Protip: In German (and German only, don't try this in other languages), if you don't know where to get an umlaut from it's acceptable to follow up the letter that was supposed to get an umlaut with an e instead. Muenster.

# ? Jun 23, 2020 07:02

Teriyaki Hairpiece: Dec 29, 2006; I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

There were a lot of separate French languages and now there's French. There were a lot of separate German languages and now they're German. There were lot of Italian languages, and now they're all Italian. European languages were entirely defined by borders and war.

# ? Jun 23, 2020 07:05

Platystemon: Feb 13, 2012; BREADS

Carbon dioxide posted:

Protip: In German (and German only, don't try this in other languages), if you don't know where to get an umlaut from it's acceptable to follow up the letter that was supposed to get an umlaut with an e instead. Muenster.

Thanks, friend.

That�s ueber useful knowledge.

# ? Jun 23, 2020 07:09

3D Megadoodoo: Nov 25, 2010

Or just press the �-key and then the vowel. L�k� s�.

# ? Jun 23, 2020 07:11

Tree Bucket: Apr 1, 2016; R.I.P.idura leucophrys

3D Megadoodoo posted:

Or just press the �-key and then the vowel. L�k� s�.

The... the what key?

Carbon dioxide posted:

Protip: In German (and German only, don't try this in other languages), if you don't know where to get an umlaut from it's acceptable to follow up the letter that was supposed to get an umlaut with an e instead. Muenster.

That's good to know!

System Metternich posted:

If it's "Packs" it might be a rendering of Latin pax, 'peace' and thus might have developed independently

It's tip for the game and bar for the safe zone. Come to think of it, "bar" really doesn't make a whole lot of sense...

# ? Jun 23, 2020 07:23

Powered Descent: Jul 13, 2008; We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Carbon dioxide posted:

Protip: In German (and German only, don't try this in other languages), if you don't know where to get an umlaut from it's acceptable to follow up the letter that was supposed to get an umlaut with an e instead. Muenster.

Moetly Cruee

# ? Jun 23, 2020 07:24

3D Megadoodoo: Nov 25, 2010

Tree Bucket posted:

The... the what key?

The �-key, right next to the �-key.

# ? Jun 23, 2020 07:25

Diqnol: May 10, 2010

The keys of the perfidious Bavarian, no doubt.

# ? Jun 23, 2020 07:26

Tree Bucket: Apr 1, 2016; R.I.P.idura leucophrys

ASAPRockySituation posted:

The keys of the perfidious Bavarian, no doubt.

Aha! Whereas I, a rugged colonial, use the sensible, civilised keys decreed by Queen Victoria herself.

# ? Jun 23, 2020 07:28

Peggotty: May 9, 2014

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

European languages were entirely defined by borders and war.

Checks out, Dutch and French are the exact same language as long as you're in Belgium.

# ? Jun 23, 2020 08:03

Grevling: Dec 18, 2016

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

There were a lot of separate French languages and now there's French. There were a lot of separate German languages and now they're German. There were lot of Italian languages, and now they're all Italian. European languages were entirely defined by borders and war.

Most of them still exist although it's true they are losing ground.

Interesting parallel to how all the Italic languages were replaced by Latin some two millennia ago I think. I wonder how many times similar consolidations took place in prehistory.

# ? Jun 23, 2020 11:36

Groke: Jul 27, 2007; New Adventures In Mom Strength

cebrail posted:

Belgium.

Dude, watch your language.

# ? Jun 23, 2020 12:00

Carbon dioxide: Oct 9, 2012

# ? Jun 23, 2020 18:57

Edgar Allen Ho: Apr 3, 2017; by sebmojo

3D Megadoodoo posted:

The �-key, right next to the �-key.

� is shift ^ and it's next to p and $ you finnish monster.

# ? Jun 23, 2020 19:19

Kennel: May 1, 2008; BAWWW-UNH!

I'm glad Estonia has reached the pretty good countries club.

# ? Jun 23, 2020 19:19

Cat Mattress: Jul 14, 2012; by Cyrano4747

Carbon dioxide posted:

Luxembourg and the Netherlands are innovation leaders for tax fraud schemes.

# ? Jun 23, 2020 21:06

A Buttery Pastry: Sep 4, 2011; Delicious and Informative!

Cat Mattress posted:

Luxembourg and the Netherlands are innovation leaders for tax fraud schemes.

Germany ekes into the strong innovator category through its innovations in emission fraud.

# ? Jun 23, 2020 21:09

Dr Sun Try: May 23, 2009; Plaster Town Cop

Carbon dioxide posted:

i love, that no one is a bad or nonexisent innovator.
Everyone is a winner.

# ? Jun 23, 2020 21:15

Dr Sun Try: May 23, 2009; Plaster Town Cop

A Buttery Pastry posted:

Germany ekes into the strong innovator category through its innovations in emission fraud.

that's not fair, it's not all fraud. We also blatantly replace mostly clean energy (nuclear) with not quite as clean, but for some reason "green" energy (coal)

# ? Jun 23, 2020 21:17

Byzantine: Sep 1, 2007

Dr Sun Try posted:

that's not fair, it's not all fraud. We also blatantly replace mostly clean energy (nuclear) with not quite as clean, but for some reason "green" energy (coal)

coal isn't made of spooky scary atoms

# ? Jun 23, 2020 22:03

a fatguy baldspot: Aug 29, 2018

Byzantine posted:

coal isn't made of spooky scary atoms

I tucking hate atoms man. I hate them so much.

# ? Jun 23, 2020 22:06

PittTheElder: Feb 13, 2012; Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Byzantine posted:

coal isn't made of spooky scary atoms

spooky scary nucleii
send shivers down your spine

# ? Jun 23, 2020 22:21

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Dr Sun Try posted:

that's not fair, it's not all fraud. We also blatantly replace mostly clean energy (nuclear) with not quite as clean, but for some reason "green" energy (coal)

Hey, that's not fair on Germany, they're also doing a lot in the hydrogen sector, and you don't get ‪‪CO2 emissions from burning hydrogen!

You get the emissions from creating it.

# ? Jun 23, 2020 23:13

Orange Devil: Oct 1, 2010; Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

I want you all to know I'm innovating so hard right now.

# ? Jun 24, 2020 00:10

Peggotty: May 9, 2014

Dr Sun Try posted:

that's not fair, it's not all fraud. We also blatantly replace mostly clean energy (nuclear) with not quite as clean, but for some reason "green" energy (coal)

No, that's right wing propaganda. We're not "replacing" nuclear energy with coal energy, we're building as much coal energy as possible because it's profitable. No amount of nuclear power plants would have stopped Germany from also building coal power plants.

# ? Jun 24, 2020 13:53

my dad: Oct 17, 2012; this shall be humorous

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