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What kind of hack writer came up with this development? Oh no, the people endangering the kids are planning on how best to do it, but lol psych they have imperilled themselves at that very meeting.
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smoobles posted:We Are All Going To Die This is 100% true
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COVID in the US is Aliens, but all you have to do to block the face huggers is wear a cloth over your mouth, but half the crew refuses to do it and the other half get loving murdered by the monsters bursting from their chests.
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Jul 2, 2020 07:19
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Honestly at this point I'm feeling a little left out that I haven't caught it yet. Its like the hot new trend and I'm being left behind!
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You should just go to that Vanilla Ice show in Austin on Friday
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I'm pretty sure I caught it in February. Early in the month I thought I had the flu. That lasted for about two weeks until my lungs started burning, and the burning spread to my windpipe. About a week after that I was still feeling lovely and I actually couldn't speak. Then I finally went to a clinic and they gave me some pain meds and they diagnosed me with bronchitis. I'm pretty sure I had the thing but it was just before anyone was really diagnosing people with it and I was out of work for like 2 weeks because I could not get out of bed...
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Why the gently caress WOULDN'T you aim for complete eradication if it was in reach? The "flattening the curve" stuff was from back when they were expecting up to 150,000 deaths in Australia and were trying to avoid a worst case scenario and assuming they wouldn't be able to stop it altogether, it was a stop-gap measure and not the preferred outcome. Because you're never going to get complete eradication unless you stop all travel in and out of the country for three years. It's an impossible dream. What we currently have, lots of testing and isolation of areas were clusters pop up is as good as you're going to get. I think eventually they will make masks more mandatory and that would be good. But this is as good as it gets. We either stay in full lockdown permanently or accept that hotspots are going to spring up. The flattening of the curve was such a success that we've only just tipped over into 8000 cases in total! The curve isn't finished for years yet. Freaking out because someone in Elwood isn't wearing a mask when 77 people in Craigieburn tested positive is a waste of energy.
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Instead, why not aim for COMPLETE. GLOBAL. SATURATION.
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Resident evil irl: "Wesker we've secured the sample ! But it's worthless because the freezer unit on the courrier hasn't been maintained since 2009. And the combat data is just cellphone videos of chuds fighting over frozen pizza. I'm so sorry !"
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"You've found 'green herb', it probably won't kill you idk. Who knows tho, we're looking at it very strongly"
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Was probably posted ITT months ago but I just found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARQUqATd07E
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Did the chinese vaccine get brought up yet? I skimmed a few pages. To speed up development, they've decided to just skip the final phase of testing. https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/covid-vaccine-approved-military-use-china-1.5630947 quote:China approves COVID-19 vaccine for military use, skips final phase of testing So that's a thing.
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I'll trust something from something called CanSino, doesn't sound like a gamble at all e: something something unpacked robinhood fucked around with this message at 08:16 on Jul 2, 2020 |
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Illuminti posted:The flattening of the curve was such a success that we've only just tipped over into 8000 cases in total! The curve isn't finished for years yet. Freaking out because someone in Elwood isn't wearing a mask when 77 people in Craigieburn tested positive is a waste of energy. Come on, this is the literal ounce of prevention being worth a pound of cure. We are currently witnessing that at Victoria's stage of relaxed restrictions, that their current system of testing and isolation isn't fast enough to stop a new infection area before it needs to be locked down. That one person evading the stay at home restriction is risking putting Snowglobe's entire postcode into lockdown. And sure, eradication may be impossible to maintain because there will always be contact with the outside world, but it's the only way to open up fully. If it comes back, then you have to quickly quash it because it will spread quickly, but if you accept the virus as being endemic in the country, then you're going to be stuck on stage 3 restrictions, because anything more than that clearly allows the virus to spread with exponential growth. It's not the eradication method that gets stuck in permanent restrictions; it's allowing the virus to remain in the community. This is why all the other states who have eliminated the virus from the community are so hesitant to allow Victorians in. They've opened up beyond what their protection methods can deal with, and they know it. All they are relying on at the moment is the virus being trapped inside quarantine hotels for returning travelers, and the hope that if it does get loose, they find it really quickly.
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Illuminti posted:Because you're never going to get complete eradication unless you stop all travel in and out of the country for three years. You enforce strict quarantine on anyone entering (which Australia did do, for literal decades, back in the age of sail), and ensure that no cases get into the country. Yes, international travel is a shitshow. The US response has guaranteed that it will be a shitshow until there's a working vaccine. Saying that eradicating the virus in your own borders is pointless because you'll one day want to reopen international travel is utterly insane.
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New article discussing the results from a shitload of medical autopsies https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/07/01/coronavirus-autopsies-findings/?itid=lk_inline_manual_28 Basically tons and tons of clotting, especially in the lungs, and observing the presence of so much lung clotting did lead to doctors more often prescribing blood thinners right away, which has probably had a meaningful impact on the CFR. And common neurological symptoms / stroke / sudden organ failure is probably due to the virus causing a bunch of clots in the brain. The common detail is that the scope of clotting is weird; coronavirus victims didn't just have 1 big clot in the lung or brain, they had tons of microclots in completely different regions of those organs. So I guess the virus just travels all over your loving body and you're really just subject to the whims of your immune system to fight it off before it causes irreparable damage The article notes that it's still unknown whether there will be permanent neurological symptoms in any significant fraction of coronavirus patients. Since neurological symptoms appear to be common in all patients, it's likely that they're suffering permanent brain damage, as these symptoms are being caused by neurons literally dying from a lack of oxygen.
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MarcusSA posted:Honestly at this point I'm feeling a little left out that I haven't caught it yet. don't worry friend from the looks of things you might have already got it due to the number of symptomless cases AND you'll probably get a chance to catch it again next year!
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Whooping Crabs posted:We've completely given up I guess. I saw a headline from Dr. Fauci that we could be seeing 100k new infections per day soon. I'm surprised that we haven't seen a huge spike in deaths, but I suppose that's coming? The death rates are back to ~2000/day again from what I can tell. *Clutch cues up* "Don't worry it's commin" The Glumslinger posted:If someone is gonna die from Corona, it normally takes 4-5 weeks from when they get infected. With hospitals really filling up, the deaths are probably about a week or 2 away
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Also read a pretty good summary of the risk of coronavirus in childcare settings, which agrees with the picture that I've been building from research articles. Yes, it does transmit to children, and children can transmit it on. But that rate seems to be lower than among adults, so opening elementary schools in the fall might not be as huge a risk as it seems. A noteworthy quote from an epidemiologist, "Remarkably, contact tracing studies in China, Iceland, Britain and the Netherlands failed to locate a single case of child-to-adult infection out of thousands of transmission events analyzed.” And while there have definitely been outbreaks reported in childcare facilities in several places that do not have contact tracing, the risk does appear to be lower overall. http://earlylearningnation.com/2020/06/opinion-child-cares-look-safe-its-time-to-act-like-it/ The greatest risk to K-6 teachers may actually be other teachers and parents, rather than children.
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No children spread it to adults, but they can spread it to each other?  Schooling is important and the rest of society should make sacrifices to make it possible, but if America is barely keeping Rt under unity, and only in some places, with schools having been shut down for months, I am not optimistic. Platystemon fucked around with this message at 11:21 on Jul 2, 2020 |
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Platystemon posted:No children spread it to adults, but they can spread it to each other? It's because they're little so they lick each other faces but they can't cough into an adult's face. See my YouTube for other hard science takes
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Children don't spread it to adults because they are too short to cough directly into their faces. That's just good science. e: unpacked robinhood posted:It's because they're little so they lick each other faces but they can't cough into an adult's face. See my YouTube for other hard science takes dang, a fellow man of science
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Platystemon posted:No children spread it to adults, but they can spread it to each other? Who said they don't spread it to adults? Children definitely do spread it to adults, and to each other, but in both of those cases the transmission risk seems to be lower than between adults.
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So the republicans realized that big chunks of their voter base are going to die from going to rallies without wearing masks? drat
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That sounds as fake as the rainbow parties alleged to have taken place in the nineteen nineties.
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Platystemon posted:That sounds as fake as the rainbow parties alleged to have taken place in the nineteen nineties. I was sharing this everywhere on the net about 2 weeks ago, maybe it caught on 
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schmug posted:The death rates are back to ~2000/day again from what I can tell. No they aren't.
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CarlosTheDwarf posted:No they aren't. 879 deaths on July 1 
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QuarkJets posted:Also read a pretty good summary of the risk of coronavirus in childcare settings, which agrees with the picture that I've been building from research articles. Yes, it does transmit to children, and children can transmit it on. But that rate seems to be lower than among adults, so opening elementary schools in the fall might not be as huge a risk as it seems. A noteworthy quote from an epidemiologist, "Remarkably, contact tracing studies in China, Iceland, Britain and the Netherlands failed to locate a single case of child-to-adult infection out of thousands of transmission events analyzed.” And while there have definitely been outbreaks reported in childcare facilities in several places that do not have contact tracing, the risk does appear to be lower overall. yeah as surprising as this seems as time goes on it really does seem to be the case - young children don't just get off easier when infected but they don't spread it much either. it's not the flu, bro! https://twitter.com/BBCLBicker/status/1278518719077969925?s=20
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The Glumslinger posted:If someone is gonna die from Corona, it normally takes 4-5 weeks from when they get infected. With hospitals really filling up, the deaths are probably about a week or 2 away Are hospitals filling up?
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johncandy posted:Are hospitals filling up? They are in Texas...
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Jawdins posted:I'm pretty sure I caught it in February. Early in the month I thought I had the flu. That lasted for about two weeks until my lungs started burning, and the burning spread to my windpipe. About a week after that I was still feeling lovely and I actually couldn't speak. Then I finally went to a clinic and they gave me some pain meds and they diagnosed me with bronchitis. I'm pretty sure I had the thing but it was just before anyone was really diagnosing people with it and I was out of work for like 2 weeks because I could not get out of bed... 10 million people got the flu in February including me and every one of them thinks it was covid. Assume it wasn’t.
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if you're outside and more than 6ft away from people, can you take off your mask? also is it true that hard surfaces aren't a significant vector? I'm in Chicago and 80/90% of people wear it. but I commute via train and while my office enforces the masks a lot of them are still traveling to Wisconsin and St. Louis regularly. I also usually get sick during flu seasons so..
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Edgar Allan Pwned posted:if you're outside and more than 6ft away from people, can you take off your mask? Are you asking or are you just wanting validation of whatever it is you’ve decided you are going to do anyway? Not being snarky but I’m finding most people have made their choice and then just hunt for others to say it’s ok
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Must be cool to live in a country where people give a gently caress about covid
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Edgar Allan Pwned posted:if you're outside and more than 6ft away from people, can you take off your mask? Legally, yeah, usually. Most of the orders allow it. Practically, you want a lot more space than that before you can say the mask probably isn’t making much difference. quote:since SARS-CoV-2 is not only transmitted through the air and can survive on the surface for a while, the importance of hand disinfection cannot be ignored https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7226715/ Here’s a recent study demonstrating surface transmission done with a harmless proxy virus. quote:The results from this study show how important surface-mediated transmission is, particularly in light of the current outbreak. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7238988/
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Fartbox posted:Must be cool to live in a country where people give a gently caress about covid Look I'm just doing what the founding fathers did. George Washington is well known for saying "gently caress masks" and spray painting "all lives matter" across Seattle walkways, okay? I'm just honoring the US. I'm just- for real though, these people suck.
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