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Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

priznat posted:

Curious about that guy’s driving history now


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_mqaC6wnXA

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Stravag
Jun 7, 2009

PookBear posted:

this can't be real

So say that buuuuuut there was that proud post by some "genderqueer" (their term if memory serves) person on facebook buying their first gun and then getting arrested days after posting about how they were a super safe gun owner because they started shootinf in traffic during a roadrage event. People are loving sumb is my point and if 2020 should have taught you anything ismts that it can always be worse

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

priznat posted:

Curious about that guy’s driving history now

Drivers can have a little DUI, as a treat.

devmd01
Mar 7, 2006

Elektronik
Supersonik

not ashamed to admit I watched this while really high and enjoyed it

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

Stravag posted:

So say that buuuuuut there was that proud post by some "genderqueer" (their term if memory serves) person on facebook buying their first gun and then getting arrested days after posting about how they were a super safe gun owner because they started shootinf in traffic during a roadrage event. People are loving sumb is my point and if 2020 should have taught you anything ismts that it can always be worse

You are forgetting the best part- they didn't know the name and caliber (they said the wrong things- it's clear on the slide) and the friends commenting "I don't trust you with a gun" and "you have too many mental health issues to own a gun" (if not exact quotes, they get the meaning across)

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


That’s a really old Facebook comment.

Vengarr
Jun 17, 2010

Smashed before noon

EvenWorseOpinions posted:


I don't really know where to post this other than here


https://i.imgur.com/GZRvoja.gifv

J.theYellow
May 7, 2003
Slippery Tilde

LingcodKilla posted:

That’s a really old Facebook comment.

The "sheepdog lifestyle" sounds like he's studied Dave Grossman, who's in all the news lately as teaching cops to be kill-crazy loons. I guess that guy's been at work for a while, though.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you
"this whole COVID fuss is overblown" - a patient on day 12 in the VA ICU with COVID 19, who is lucky to be alive

Told to me by someone who heard it first hand. Once an idiot always an idiot

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


J.theYellow posted:

The "sheepdog lifestyle" sounds like he's studied Dave Grossman, who's in all the news lately as teaching cops to be kill-crazy loons. I guess that guy's been at work for a while, though.

Yeah in the rootin' tootin' foot shootin' forum we've been lambasting "sheepdog" poo poo for years.

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

canyoneer posted:

"this whole COVID fuss is overblown" - a patient on day 12 in the VA ICU with COVID 19, who is lucky to be alive

Told to me by someone who heard it first hand. Once an idiot always an idiot

All my dead covid patients so far are old people who took a lot of precautions but got sick from a family member that was taking care of them. Wish the world was a less unfair place.

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
PROTIP: if you own a gun over a year without disassembling it on watch at least once, you aren't cleaning it enough. getting NJPed is a natural part of ensuring your weapon's cleanliness and readiness for action when the need to use it arises.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

J.theYellow posted:

The "sheepdog lifestyle" sounds like he's studied Dave Grossman, who's in all the news lately as teaching cops to be kill-crazy loons. I guess that guy's been at work for a while, though.

David Grossman came to the academy and gave us a speech over dinner one evening. We were about to be commissioned (this was back in the 90's) and he kept referring to us all as "managers of violence". Dude seemed to have a real hard on for killing.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Wasn't he a pog to boot or is that just the rumor.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Milo and POTUS posted:

Wasn't he a pog to boot or is that just the rumor.

Platoon leader and Company commander in two different infantry divisions, though I suppose they could have been H&S units. I don't think he saw any combat, though.

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit
He loves to flout his Ranger(!) tab like it makes him extra special badass

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

“We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”

UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:

He loves to flout his Ranger(!) tab like it makes him extra special badass

Sounds pretty standard to the Army to me.

Jaguars!
Jul 31, 2012


joat mon posted:

Platoon leader and Company commander in two different infantry divisions, though I suppose they could have been H&S units. I don't think he saw any combat, though.

His record is here though I can't read half the militarese:

https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/dave-grossmans-military-file-35246/#file-155927

I guess the lack of a combat badge means he was never involved in any of those 1980s adventurisms in south america?

Dick Burglar
Mar 6, 2006
In On Killing he admits to never being in combat or fired a shot in anger. Dude unquestionably fetishizes combat and the act of killing. The book is at once both apologizing to those who had to do it, but also emphasizing how amazing and life-changing (both positive and negative) the act is and venerating those who have to MAKE THE TOUGH CHOICES THAT WEAKER MEN CANNOT.

Dick Burglar fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Jul 6, 2020

Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless

spacetoaster posted:

he kept referring to us all as "managers of violence".

Ah yes, the person Karen demands to talk to at the violence store.

piL
Sep 20, 2007
(__|\\\\)
Taco Defender

Wingnut Ninja posted:

Ah yes, the person Karen demands to talk to at the violence store.

But the service academies don't make managers, they make leaders.

A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:

piL posted:

But the service academies don't make managers, they make leaders.

And that's why most officers come through ROTC and green to hold programs.

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

I still think On Killing should still be recommended; but even reading it in HS I found flaws in his Methodology and conclusions, but it still has some good takeaways for troopers.

Maybe I'm alone in that.


E- actual troops. I had no idea he was training cops until Robert Evans' pod on him. That loving disgusts me. He has no business teaching cops; and maybe is lovely of me, but he should absolutely not ve viewed as an expert on killing.

And if he really wanted to get into trouble, he had plenty of opportunity over the years. He's a loving coward who views violence as pornography.

bulletsponge13 fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Jul 7, 2020

Dick Burglar
Mar 6, 2006
The problem is, it demands you sift through a lot of actively-bad poo poo for the handful of nuggets. And a lot of people are going to take all that bad poo poo and interpret it as not only not-bad, but good. Which, when your subject matter is killing people, is incredibly dangerous.

Better to take the few good lessons it has and just republish that without the sea of awful garbage.

Serjeant Buzfuz
Dec 5, 2009

CMYK BLYAT! posted:

PROTIP: if you own a gun over a year without disassembling it on watch at least once, you aren't cleaning it enough. getting NJPed is a natural part of ensuring your weapon's cleanliness and readiness for action when the need to use it arises.

loving lmao

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

Dick Burglar posted:


Better to take the few good lessons it has and just republish that without the sea of awful garbage.

good news everyone!

The Little Black Book of Violence


quote:

Again, the best self-defense is being aware of and avoiding dangerous people and hazardous
situations. When that is not possible, when you’ve failed to identify and act upon signs of impending
threat, self-defense can still be about verbally de-escalating a tense encounter before it turns violent.
Fighting is your last resort to keep yourself safe after you’ve blown your self-defense, when
awareness, avoidance, and de-escalation have all failed.

shame on an IGA fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Jul 7, 2020

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

I remember seeing a site called 'no nonsense self defense' where 90% of it was just 'how to avoid getting into a situation where you might need to use violence', and most of the remainder was just methods of running away

Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


Shoes and pants with enough give to run and jump are the real EDC heroes.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Exercise? Jeez, no wonder americans love guns so much

A Festivus Miracle
Dec 19, 2012

I have come to discourse on the profound inequities of the American political system.

Tunicate posted:

I remember seeing a site called 'no nonsense self defense' where 90% of it was just 'how to avoid getting into a situation where you might need to use violence', and most of the remainder was just methods of running away

Tbh, dudes not wrong. One good punch can kill you, unlikely as that seems. Kinda the same reason why any martial arts gym adds the caveat: "this stuff is only for situations you can't get out of" to any training.

I was kind of wondering, what happened to that Finnish dude who joined the airborne and proceeded to break his lower half in a motorcycle wreck?

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



A White Guy posted:

Tbh, dudes not wrong. One good punch can kill you, unlikely as that seems. Kinda the same reason why any martial arts gym adds the caveat: "this stuff is only for situations you can't get out of" to any training.

I was kind of wondering, what happened to that Finnish dude who joined the airborne and proceeded to break his lower half in a motorcycle wreck?

He’s three foot tall living in Viscenza now I think.

Thomamelas
Mar 11, 2009

bulletsponge13 posted:

I still think On Killing should still be recommended; but even reading it in HS I found flaws in his Methodology and conclusions, but it still has some good takeaways for troopers.

Maybe I'm alone in that.


E- actual troops. I had no idea he was training cops until Robert Evans' pod on him. That loving disgusts me. He has no business teaching cops; and maybe is lovely of me, but he should absolutely not ve viewed as an expert on killing.

And if he really wanted to get into trouble, he had plenty of opportunity over the years. He's a loving coward who views violence as pornography.

He bases a lot of his work on the work of SLA Marshall. Which is a huge problem. Because SLA Marshall made up most of his facts and figures. All of that effort he puts into making cops absolute shitheads is based on bullshit.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

A White Guy posted:

Tbh, dudes not wrong. One good punch can kill you, unlikely as that seems. Kinda the same reason why any martial arts gym adds the caveat: "this stuff is only for situations you can't get out of" to any training.

I was kind of wondering, what happened to that Finnish dude who joined the airborne and proceeded to break his lower half in a motorcycle wreck?

That’s Vakhalya (spelling?) you’re talking about, and if I recall correctly, someone else asked this within the last year and someone who knows him said he’s doing fine and enjoying his enlistment.

Vahakyla
May 3, 2013

quote:

when riding my motorcycle home from work yesterday I lost my ability to walk and ended up having surgery to remove hosed up poo poo between L5 and S1 in the city hospital in Vicenza.


quote:

So after getting my quarters slip, drove three miles home, but halfway felt a sharp lightning bolt go through my back and almost fell on the bike. After I calmed down I managed to nanny drive it home and quasimodo-walk into my living room where my legs gave out and I couldn’t walk.

I had a bad parachute jump on December 13th in 2017, when I originally had incontinence issues and cauda-equina-like symptoms. Not too sure what happened, but probably the lost air in the chute from another jumper caused me to hit the ground hard. The symptoms went away, and allowed me to hide them, and came back AS I was riding the motorcycle home, 8th of January IIRC,. I never crashed on it or anything. I had surgeries at Ospedale San Bortolo in Vicenza Italy, and also went up to Landstuhl for follow up poo poo during the summer. I wrote in very confusing manner during these heavily drugged up times, and it's not super clear from my writing what happened. I was in a pretty bad place because I needed so much help from my wife and my friends, and the medicine did a number on me. I'd sleep for 12 hours, then stay up for 24, and would not remember much of anything. I don't remember writing those forum posts, either, and some members of this very forum told myself, and DM'd my wife on discord for example, to come get her man's when I'd wake up in the middle of the night and zombie out on my computer, talking about moving computer monitors that attack me or some poo poo. My PL would come to my house to supervise me and help me to the bathroom and such when my wife had to run affairs. It was a highly emotional experience, but I can't really see how I could have been luckier.

I'm still in Italy, but just started to out-process. I go to Air Force ROTC that starts on 24th August in Charleston, SC, at College of Charleston. I've wrapped up my enlistment on a high note, I got to jump again over a year later from my injury, around May 2018 I think, and then got to jump into D-Day with Romanian SF. Jumped into Hohenfels on a mass tac, and jumped another masstac into Croatia. When I switched from recce platoon to the sapper platoon, my new LT and PSG were both amazing, and helped me to overcome some physical difficulties, and were really the best people to work for. I didn't need profiles to shield my body when I felt like it, and in addition they basically allowed me a free reign in both educational goals and personal freedom in garrison.

I'm super happy, and my wife found awesome federal employment here that'll hopefully continue in South Carolina. I started playing on the garrison hockey team and got to take part in the Army vs Air Force game against Aviano AFB, and play in italian amateur tournaments, too. Some body checks definitely rattle my spine, but oh well.

Our time in Italy was like a lottery win, and it's really emotionally difficult for my family to leave. My son, who now speaks fluent italian and has done three years of italian school, is pretty devastated.

I received TSGLI for my injury, and numbness and tingling remain, and occasionally I do pee my pants. It's pretty funny. It's all medically in control, though, as long as I can pass the PT tests and such. There is some pretty decent constant pain, but unless I think about it, it doesn't really bother me. I really don't mind, and I put in effort to dodge the MEB, too, so I can pursue this commission. I have passed a flight physical, too. It's the reality that my quality of life, and physical ability, at around late forties to early fifties will be pretty terrible with statistical look of people of similar circumstances. But there's nothing I can do about, besides live in a bubble, and if this would be the payment to receive all that I've received, I'd take that option any day, over and over again.




D-Day 75th.



pantslesswithwolves posted:

That’s Vakhalya (spelling?) you’re talking about, and if I recall correctly, someone else asked this within the last year and someone who knows him said he’s doing fine and enjoying his enlistment.


I do love it, I consider it the best experience of my life so far. I also realize that my experience, my superiors, and my assignments and jobs that I've had do not reflect the average experience of a medic.

Vahakyla fucked around with this message at 14:25 on Jul 7, 2020

beyonder
Jun 23, 2007
Beyond hardcore.
Haha holy hell Vähäkylä. Did we play Dayz mod back in the day?

Vahakyla
May 3, 2013

beyonder posted:

Haha holy hell Vähäkylä. Did we play Dayz mod back in the day?

We did. It seems like an actual forever ago! Now I just do nerdy flight sims.

beyonder
Jun 23, 2007
Beyond hardcore.
Those were the days. Oh the rage, the rage. And Ghost Vodnik. You wanna give Dayz mod a refresher on my server? I'm Dr. Ripadickoff on steam.

Vahakyla
May 3, 2013

beyonder posted:

Those were the days. Oh the rage, the rage. And Ghost Vodnik. You wanna give Dayz mod a refresher on my server? I'm Dr. Ripadickoff on steam.

You are running a server for Arma 2 on tyool 2020? I have some conflicting emotions my dude. I sent you a steam message, we are still friends.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Had a management member ask me why I felt it necessary to pull my gun on an attacker with a knife back at my old job.

Blew my mind that she didn’t thank me for not shooting a guy if I could have avoided it. Even the police asked me why I didn’t shoot him.

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