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I mean in a series about sentient locomotives isn't there an implication that the diesel engines essentially caused a genocide of steam engines on the mainland? You can cast Sodor as kind of like a reservation for indigenous peoples and diesels as settler colonists. And why on Earth am I thinking about this?
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If we're really going down this rabbit hole, Duck's not in the right but Diesel's go-to response was to functionally undermine the whole yard just to get back at one engine, which is downright toxic for any professional environment. He got
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I mean in a series about sentient locomotives isn't there an implication that the diesel engines essentially caused a genocide of steam engines on the mainland? You can cast Sodor as kind of like a reservation for indigenous peoples and diesels as settler colonists. Unsurprisingly the story series for kids about sentient talking trains written by a vicar gets weird when you start trying to apply logic to it. That said... there's one of the later books where a traumatised Percy learns about how The Other Railway (BR) is replacing steam locos with diesels and electrics and how the steam engines are being cut up for scrap (with a suitably graphic illustration of a steam engine - with a face and everything - being advanced on by a workman with an oxycetalene torch. It always spooked me out as a kid). So within the logic of the books it's the humans - the Controllers - who are deliberately massacring the steam locos in favour of other types on the grounds of efficiency. I'm sure there's a political thesis or two in picking the bones out of that! Sodor's other GWR engine, Oliver, literally escaped BR - being chased and hunted by diesels as he hid in sidings while moving by night courtesy of sympathetic signalmen - and fled to Sodor with a GWR Autocoach and a Toad-type brake van. So it pretty literally is a reservation or sanctuary. The preserved steam railways in England are treated in a similar fashion. Neddy Seagoon posted:If we're really going down this rabbit hole, Duck's not in the right but Diesel's go-to response was to functionally undermine the whole yard just to get back at one engine, which is downright toxic for any professional environment. He got True. I actually looked up the story rather than relying on a 25-year old memory (it's remarkable how strongly I remember them...but I read the books a lot as a kid) and you're right. Diesel's as big a jerk as anyone.
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BalloonFish posted:Unsurprisingly the story series for kids about sentient talking trains written by a vicar gets weird when you start trying to apply logic to it. https://ttte.fandom.com/wiki/Scrapped_Engines for the picture. There is an engine in the background with a black hole for a face.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:If we're really going down this rabbit hole, Duck's not in the right but Diesel's go-to response was to functionally undermine the whole yard just to get back at one engine, which is downright toxic for any professional environment. He got This is literally my office right now and this loving train thread has me questioning my workday
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Stairmaster posted:also Diesel the character was a black class 11. If we're getting into racism. Isn't that just the standard BR livery for freight and mixed traffic locos? You might be reading just a little bit too much into things here.
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When in doubt, Europeans be racist
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Stairmaster posted:When in doubt, Europeans be racist Also the British.
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NoWake posted:Which reminds me of a chart that absolutely blew my mind, courtesy of donoteat and his crew; The Soviet Union was also poor as poo poo and in a communist country you use what they tell you to/what is available. If we had a planned economy and just chose not to build planes, yeah people would ride the train.
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Thank you, youtube algorithm, for showing me this little piece of "wait, what?": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq0aA9RZ1ls
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At first I thought the cars were decoupled from one moving train and coupled onto another moving train. Also, the latest wtyp episode has a riff on tins of Russian train meat, I absolutely loved it.
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Itzena posted:Thank you, youtube algorithm, for showing me this little piece of "wait, what?": I didn't know grover was a rail systems engineer in a former life.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_WhhRshZCg&t=19s The derail about reconstituted train meat starts at 19m 30s, but I could only get the timestamp to post to the 19m mark.
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The US equivalent of slip coaches would be kicking cars or poleing, but those practices were restricted to freight as far as I know. Both have since been outlawed though I don't know exactly when.
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RandomPauI posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_WhhRshZCg&t=19s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_WhhRshZCg&t=1169s
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Itzena posted:Thank you, youtube algorithm, for showing me this little piece of "wait, what?": Of course the GWR/Western Region was the last to run slip coaches! I knew they were still around until well into nationalisation, but not that it was a Western thing. I should have known better. You just know they had a meeting at Paddington, while they were still sweeping up the bomb damage and taking down the blackout blinds, discussing "Now, how can we keep being different??" Fake edit: This made me wonder when the last mixed train (passengers and freight in the same train, excluding passenger-rated goods vehicles such as parcel vans or milk tanks or 'tail traffic' when a single van would be coupled behind a passenger service - something which happened well into the era of diesel multiple units on BR)ran in Britain. I was half-expecting it to be the Western Region...or knowing BR that they were hitching nuclear fuel flasks to the back of the Flying Scotsman until 1990 or something. The answer is the early 1980s, in the Scottish Highlands. Many of the passenger trains on the West Highland Line would have two coaches, a luggage/parcels van, a couple of tank wagons carrying marine fuel oil and an open wagon for any miscellaneous crates, pallets or bags. BalloonFish fucked around with this message at 12:10 on Jul 6, 2020 |
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:Welp, I always knew British trains were poo poo, I just didn't realize HOW poo poo. The idea of no air brakes in 1950 is loving mindboggling to me. The US figured that poo poo out in the 1800's. Westinghouse. In 1869, at age 22, Westinghouse invented a railroad braking system using compressed air. The Westinghouse system used a compressor on the locomotive, a reservoir and a special valve on each car, and a single pipe running the length of the train (with flexible connections) which both refilled the reservoirs and controlled the brakes, allowing the engineer to apply and release the brakes simultaneously on all cars. It is a failsafe system, in that any rupture or disconnection in the train pipe will apply the brakes throughout the train. It was patented by Westinghouse on October 28, 1873 It why he had the $$$ to fund Tesla and beat Edison in electrifying the USA.
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:The US equivalent of slip coaches would be kicking cars or poleing, but those practices were restricted to freight as far as I know. Both have since been outlawed though I don't know exactly when. im not a train service employee but i dont think kicking cars is outlawed. a conductor on the cn killed himself doing it a few weeks ago.
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Kicking isn't outlawed by the Feds, but certain railroads say their employees can't do it. It's just up to management as to whether or not it's kosher.
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where's the rest of the video
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# ? Jul 11, 2020 23:58 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAEafnwZGfM
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He's right, you know.
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# ? Jul 20, 2020 21:35 |
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And then he got fired, probably.
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# ? Jul 21, 2020 18:27 |
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I resemble that remark.
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# ? Jul 21, 2020 20:20 |
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What's a foamer? It's some sex thing, isn't it?
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# ? Jul 23, 2020 14:15 |
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A foamer is someone so overly enthusiastic about trains, they're said to be foaming at the mouth with excitement.
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Schadenboner posted:What's a foamer? They're the reason I can't tell my coworkers about my hobby because I'll be lumped in with them.
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# ? Jul 23, 2020 16:51 |
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This is a foamer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhYXNwvcl6A
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Schadenboner posted:What's a foamer? They've been waiting for this moment for months and it's finally here.
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# ? Jul 24, 2020 05:51 |
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Where's the one where they were waiting for an old steam unit and just as it comes into view a freight train blocks their view
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Jonny Nox posted:Where's the one where they were waiting for an old steam unit and just as it comes into view a freight train blocks their view See, watching a video of that happening would be a sex thing...
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Jonny Nox posted:Where's the one where they were waiting for an old steam unit and just as it comes into view a freight train blocks their view Take your pick: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHwOndZw7Ak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciC1lvoTX6E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBBK2hjcPuA
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BalloonFish posted:Take your pick:
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BalloonFish posted:Take your pick:
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I like the second one where it is blocked by trains passing in both directions.
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# ? Jul 27, 2020 14:07 |
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This happened to me once while I was out in Wyoming chasing the Big Boy last year. It wasn't the greatest shot anyway though so I wasn't too upset, I caught it in 4 other locations that day.
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smackfu posted:I like the second one where it is blocked by trains passing in both directions. That is a good moment. I'm a big fan of the friendly little 'hee-haw' the driver of the overtaking train gives on the horn in the first vid, just as he draws level with the steamer. That's not because he's approaching the crossing. It's more of a "Hi guys, you've all turned up to see little ol' me? How great! " for the spotters.
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