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I'm not sure what that expression is trying to convey, but I relate to it strongly.
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:I'm not sure what that expression is trying to convey, but I relate to it strongly. Some laxative will clear that right up
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:I'm not sure what that expression is trying to convey, but I relate to it strongly.
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Aug 1, 2020 19:31
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Dragonball can’t really do an actual evil genius as the universe will correct and someone will punch them to death. It’s why I laughed when people were shocked Vegeta got owned by Moro. Guts Dragonball is the same arc over and over again learn pattern recognition
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Aug 3, 2020 20:57
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Honestly, I'm not sure how people can be surprised about Vegeta getting bodied anymore. It's like being surprised that Goku wears orange.
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Aug 3, 2020 21:06
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I remember when Vegeta first started fighting Moro and I saw YouTube videos talking about how Vegeta is stronger than Goku! Like did they never see Z or what
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Aug 3, 2020 21:09
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No I've got a really good feeling he's going to walk into this fight with the powerup he needs to win this time and he's not going to gently caress it up or get blindsided by a reversal, no sir. This arc is going to end with a straightforward Vegeta stomp and then Goku will say he's the better fighter and Beerus will say he's a worthy successor as the new God of Destruction 
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Aug 3, 2020 21:11
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I still think it's funny that Vegeta's massive training hateboner is for a guy who never actually beat him.
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Aug 3, 2020 21:51
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He’s also indifferent to the many people who have beat him. He’s a complicated boy
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Aug 3, 2020 21:53
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CharlestheHammer posted:He’s also indifferent to the many people who have beat him. He doesn't even seem to hold a grudge against Yajirobi despite the fact that he literally permanently maimed him.
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Aug 3, 2020 21:58
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FooF posted:There's no doubt in my mind that Vegeta will actually "win" against Moro but due to [reasons], Moro can't be defeated in the traditional way. I'm very curious what he learned, though, and cocky Vegeta is the best. Because Dragonball hasn't changed its plot-points. I made that post at the end of May.
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Aug 3, 2020 22:02
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ImpAtom posted:I still think it's funny that Vegeta's massive training hateboner is for a guy who never actually beat him. But through the transitive property... (etc etc)
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ImpAtom posted:I still think it's funny that Vegeta's massive training hateboner is for a guy who never actually beat him. Vegeta, much like Dr. Gero and Zamasu, knows that they key to incredible self-improvement lies in hating Goku.
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Aug 3, 2020 22:08
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amigolupus posted:Vegeta, much like Dr. Gero and Zamasu, knows that they key to incredible self-improvement lies in hating Goku. But he never improves You'd really think he'd hate Gohan's guts considering Gohan is the one who kinda beat him back in the Sayian Saga, Gohan was instrumental in thwarting him on Namek, and Gohan far surpassed him during the Cell Saga, so hard that it wasn't even funny. But no he was pretty content with Gohan descending into goofy dad mode.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbFVXPiZA5w
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Aug 3, 2020 22:22
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Burkion posted:But no he was pretty content with Gohan descending into goofy dad mode. yeah it's not like he was pissed at gohan for squandering his power leading to the rest of the events of the buu saga or anything
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Aug 3, 2020 22:23
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That isn’t how that agent down. He was kind of annoyed but really Goku caused him to snap. Granted he snapped because Goku allowed someone to absorb his energy. Not by doing anything impressive, but still
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Aug 3, 2020 22:26
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Vegeta has also pretty much always been stronger in base than Goku, but Goku has some wacky power up that Vegeta can't access at the time because he's not the protagonist. That didn't even matter when he beat Goku the first time, even still.
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I still like how in their first fight Vegeta actually had Goku thoroughly beaten after he survived the Kaioken X3 Kamehameha and could have easily just beaten the piss out of him without going Oozaru and making a target out of himself, but instead got mad and freaked out and started making mistakes because he had no idea how the Kaioken worked.
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Aug 3, 2020 22:55
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I mean he does mention he knows how the technique works, or a technique similar to it
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Aug 3, 2020 22:59
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Spiritus Nox posted:I still like how in their first fight Vegeta actually had Goku thoroughly beaten after he survived the Kaioken X3 Kamehameha and could have easily just beaten the piss out of him without going Oozaru and making a target out of himself, but instead got mad and freaked out and started making mistakes because he had no idea how the Kaioken worked. I dunno, Vegeta was pretty hosed up after that and Goku still had some kaiokens in him following the beam struggle, right up until he got monkey-crushed. Without oozaru I'm betting he'd just kept getting the poo poo beat out of him.
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Didn't the Goku rivalry not really start until after Frieza was beaten and Goku achieved Super Saiyan? I don't think Vegeta's Saiyan saga loss hurt his pride THAT much because he knew it was 4 on 1 desperate fight that they only barely won.
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Aug 4, 2020 00:07
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He was at the very least insulted such a low class warrior got that close to him in the first place.
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Neo_Crimson posted:Didn't the Goku rivalry not really start until after Frieza was beaten and Goku achieved Super Saiyan? I don't think Vegeta's Saiyan saga loss hurt his pride THAT much because he knew it was 4 on 1 desperate fight that they only barely won. Yeah. During Freeza Vegeta's entirely focused on obtaining the Dragon Balls for immortality, and using said immortality to kill Freeza. Kakarot's not even in his thoughts until he reappears, way stronger than he should logically be. The Super Saiyan transformation is what finally breaks the poor prince, and gets him obsessed with one-upping Goku.
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That's actually a fair point, yeah. When Vegeta does think of Goku during the Freeza Saga it's along the lines of "that motherfucker won't get so lucky next time, I'm icing him as soon as I'm done with Freeza" right up until Goku beats Freeza and seemingly steals Vegeta's destiny where Vegeta himself gets beaten to the point of humiliation.
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Aug 4, 2020 00:34
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Freeza saga really is peak Dragon Ball. It had some highs afterwards, but it's all downhill from there.
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I'd agree if not for 5 minutes being divided into well over ten episodes.
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Burkion posted:But he never improves Vegeta hated Goku so much that he became a better family man than him, I'd say that counts as improvement. Hell, Vegeta married Bulma, the most powerful person in DB, so he's also won in that regard.
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Aug 4, 2020 00:43
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saiyan saga is peak dragon ball, namek just kind of drags
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Bushmaori posted:I dunno, Vegeta was pretty hosed up after that and Goku still had some kaiokens in him following the beam struggle, right up until he got monkey-crushed. Without oozaru I'm betting he'd just kept getting the poo poo beat out of him. Goku screamed in pain when yajirobe did a friendly slap on the back. Vegeta was nowhere near as hurt and would have just crushed him if he went back down . Vegeta's pride over being even somewhat challenged was completely responsible for him losing. Like it's weird that the series itself seemed to have forgotten that Goku was not as strong as Vegeta when they first fought.
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Aug 4, 2020 00:56
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you all have a weird way of spelling Red Ribbon
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It's funny that Vegeta could've just turned into an Oozaru, but made that his Plan B to blowing up the planet and leaving himself stranded in space.
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Monaghan posted:Goku screamed in pain when yajirobe did a friendly slap on the back. Vegeta was nowhere near as hurt and would have just crushed him if he went back down . Vegeta's pride over being even somewhat challenged was completely responsible for him losing. Pain yeah, but that doesn't mean he can't punch someone. He also got bashed by ape tail when in a following kaioken and that didn't cause him to explode or anything, so it's not like he couldn't fight.
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Aurora posted:saiyan saga is peak dragon ball, namek just kind of drags Every arc drags at certain points. Z fighters V Nappa goes way to long
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Goku vs Piccolo Jr was the best fight in all of Dragonball.
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Namek was awesome (minus being a kid in the 90s and feeling like we were never gonna leave it), not having Goku around was cool and i liked the tension of everyone trying to stealth their way around everything The desperation of Gohan/Krillin/Vegeta vs Ginyu Force may have had shades of the previous saga (always waiting on Goku), but it was still entertaining as hell
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Good soup! posted:Namek was awesome (minus being a kid in the 90s and feeling like we were never gonna leave it), not having Goku around was cool and i liked the tension of everyone trying to stealth their way around everything Definitely my favorite arc for these reasons. Too bad Bulma didn't have poo poo to do, but I guess crab battle can always be headcanon.
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I like the Ginyu Force as gag villains, but they hit too many of the same notes as Nappa for me to enjoy them as antagonists. It doesn't help that they're all pretty much immediately dispatched by Goku and killed by Vegeta shortly after, much like Nappa!
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Aug 4, 2020 03:11
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I mean Recoome even looks kinda like Nappa levelled up
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My take on the Goku VS Vegeta thing is that Vegeta already considered it his loss once he lost the beam struggle (he probably considered the Garlic Gun his trump card), not knowing it hurt Goku more than him. At that point, turning into a Great Ape knowing Goku couldn't do the same was less "ok, let's keep on fighting" and more "ok, you win, gently caress you and your happy ending, though". The fact that that's point when Krillin, Gohan and Yajirobe start participating fully cements this.
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