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Shoehead
Sep 28, 2005

Wassup, Choom?
Ya need sumthin'?

Doubtful Guest posted:

I always thought Discworld would translate very well into a stop motion animation production - like the Laika Studios stuff. It mixes the grotesqueries and grubbiness of Ankh Morpork. The Box Trolls had a great aesthetic, even if the plot wasn't the strongest.



Any Discworld book animated by Laika would be a day one watch from me. I dunno why there's been such focus on straight live action adaptations when something much more weird and stylistic would fit so much better.

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immoral_
Oct 21, 2007

So fresh and so clean.

Young Orc

Trin Tragula posted:

Like, imagine if you could do it live-action, but cast two or three or four actors for each part, start everyone off being played with hugely macho male actors while the Regiment is making its best effort to replicate what they think is expected of them, and then gradually start changing the casting over, getting less macho/male/masculine each time, as the story unfolds. (If I'm in charge, you also then swap the macho male cast back in for the infiltrating-the-castle-dressed-as-washerwomen sequence...)

Then you'd really have something worth watching, but it'd also be such a wild risk that nobody would ever go for it.

I don't think this would work at all from a filming perspective, but I'll be damned if I wouldn't want to watch it if someone with talent gave it a try.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




My Lovely Horse posted:

It's also plain more funny if there's at least some ambiguity around everyone. The constant reveals of more and more characters as women are funny. You keep thinking, okay, he might be... or he might be... nope they're both. But he surely isn't... yeah he is. Okay but not him yes him. But surely not *everyone* YES EVERYONE

If you go into it knowing everyone's a woman you'll sit there ticking the boxes. Oh okay this is when they reveal her, this is when they reveal her, and I guess here comes the big twist. Boring. Or, at least, can still be fun but any production company should probably avoid making it the default mode of reception for the audience.

But that's not the point of the story. The "twist" is completely unimportant and it's why it is revealed so early on. It's a story about gender politics and religion, not about ticking of boxes.

ChubbyChecker
Mar 25, 2018

Alhazred posted:

But that's not the point of the story. The "twist" is completely unimportant and it's why it is revealed so early on. It's a story about gender politics and religion, not about ticking of boxes.

for tv tropes folk stories are about ticking boxes

Mad Hamish
Jun 15, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



Just have nonbinary / androgynous actors, problem solved.

Hell, there's incredible things you can do with makeup and prosthetics these days, look at Tilda Swinton's three roles in the remake of Suspiria.

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW
Just have the entire cast played by Tilda Swinton.

Testekill
Nov 1, 2012

I demand to be taken seriously

:aronrex:

YggiDee posted:

Just have the entire cast played by Tilda Swinton.

A Monstorous Regiment of Tildas

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Make it a one woman show

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


Announce it with a male cast, have the actual female cast made up to look like the fake male cast.

Gnome de plume
Sep 5, 2006

Hell.
Fucking.
Yes.
Announce two projects at once, release one cast list, don't say who will be in what

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

e: Eh, nevermind :)

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

One word: Eddie Murphy.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




3D Megadoodoo posted:

One word: Eddie Murphy.

I mean, surely that's two words?

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Alhazred posted:

I mean, surely that's two words?

Two words: cast Eddie Murphy.

Small White Dragon
Nov 23, 2007

No relation.
Newbie here, this might be a stupid question.

I just started reading my first Terry Prachett book (Going Postal, which was recommended to me by a friend) and there's a lot of talk about pins. What kind of pins are these? I'm trying to visualize them in my head, someone told me they were on the 20 pound note but I looked at the current 20 pound note design and I'm not sure I get it.

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde

Small White Dragon posted:

Newbie here, this might be a stupid question.

I just started reading my first Terry Prachett book (Going Postal, which was recommended to me by a friend) and there's a lot of talk about pins. What kind of pins are these? I'm trying to visualize them in my head, someone told me they were on the 20 pound note but I looked at the current 20 pound note design and I'm not sure I get it.

Like needles except without eyelets?

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

Pins! Like this. Yes, it’s meant to be incredibly mundane.

DontMockMySmock
Aug 9, 2008

I got this title for the dumbest fucking possible take on sea shanties. Specifically, I derailed the meme thread because sailors in the 18th century weren't woke enough for me, and you shouldn't sing sea shanties. In fact, don't have any fun ever.

Small White Dragon posted:

Newbie here, this might be a stupid question.

I just started reading my first Terry Prachett book (Going Postal, which was recommended to me by a friend) and there's a lot of talk about pins. What kind of pins are these? I'm trying to visualize them in my head, someone told me they were on the 20 pound note but I looked at the current 20 pound note design and I'm not sure I get it.

I think they're pre-safety-pin fasteners. Like sewing pins, but the head of the pin can be decorative in various ways. They were completely obsoleted by safety pins, zippers, buttons, etc. and no one uses them anymore.


Here's the relevant 20 pound note image. Can't really see any pins here, it's just the example that Adam Smith used when he wrote about division of labor.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

DontMockMySmock posted:

I think they're pre-safety-pin fasteners. Like sewing pins, but the head of the pin can be decorative in various ways. They were completely obsoleted by safety pins, zippers, buttons, etc. and no one uses them anymore.

Still used in sewing. Safety pins are more annoying to fiddle with when you just need a few extra hands for a minute.
Edit: oh, you SAID "like sewing pins". I missed that somehow.

Gnome de plume
Sep 5, 2006

Hell.
Fucking.
Yes.
I feel kind of stupid about this but it only just hit me about Rincewind having "Wizzzard" with the extra Z on his hat

He can't spell.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Gnome de plume posted:

I feel kind of stupid about this but it only just hit me about Rincewind having "Wizzzard" with the extra Z on his hat

He can't spell.

That's two extra Zs. Because he also pissed off Don Diego de la Vega.

ChubbyChecker
Mar 25, 2018

3D Megadoodoo posted:

That's two extra Zs. Because he also pissed off Don Diego de la Vega.

Moola
Aug 16, 2006

Gnome de plume posted:

I feel kind of stupid about this but it only just hit me about Rincewind having "Wizzzard" with the extra Z on his hat

He can't spell.

holy poo poo :aaa:

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY

SatansOnion posted:

I’ve unseriously toyed with the idea of asking a Seattle goon if they can get a hard-boiled egg in the cap hill zone, but I can’t think of a way to explain why without sounding even more like an alarmingly weird dumbass than I typically do. so I’m venting about it here instead, where someone reading this has a nonzero chance of recognizing that reference and chuckling inwardly, maybe

Saw this a month and a half late, but I got you fam. If there's one place in Seattle where you can throw a brick and hit a Discworld fan, it's... the University* District, appropriately enough, but Cap Hill is a close second.

* Extremely Seen. Sadly they closed down the High Energy Magic building in 1992.

Shoehead
Sep 28, 2005

Wassup, Choom?
Ya need sumthin'?

Moola posted:

holy poo poo :aaa:

Rincewind is a wizard who can't spell is the Phoenix Down of Discworld :v:

Phenotype
Jul 24, 2007

You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance.



Shoehead posted:

Rincewind is a wizard who can't spell is the Phoenix Down of Discworld :v:

That was another one that I didn't get until long after I'd played the SNES and PS1 Final Fantasy games. It didn't help that the first one I'd played spelled it Fenix Down because they had a low character limit for item names, so I'd pronounced it "fennix down" for a year or two. Then it just never occurred to me that "down" referred to feathers and not just the direction. I thought they just gave it a weird Japanese anime name and I never really thought about it.

Arbite
Nov 4, 2009





FF13 was the first one to animate it as feathers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS6CXgloFUg

Canuckistan
Jan 14, 2004

I'm the greatest thing since World War III.





Soiled Meat

Phenotype posted:

Then it just never occurred to me that "down" referred to feathers and not just the direction.


DontMockMySmock
Aug 9, 2008

I got this title for the dumbest fucking possible take on sea shanties. Specifically, I derailed the meme thread because sailors in the 18th century weren't woke enough for me, and you shouldn't sing sea shanties. In fact, don't have any fun ever.

Arbite posted:

FF13 was the first one to animate it as feathers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS6CXgloFUg

They're animated as feathers in FF6. Here's the video I found to confirm my memory:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWYQYVTu22A

They aren't feathers in FF7, which I played first, and it took me until most of the way through FF6 before I made the connection.

Moola
Aug 16, 2006
It took that exact moment in the podcast to get me to realise it was phoenix "down"

Thought it was some weird japanese translation for teammate down or something lol

RoboChrist 9000
Dec 14, 2006

Mater Dolorosa
Is Raising Steam worth reading? I've avoided Snuff because I've heard from this thread and elsewhere that the alzheimers, sadly, must have been hitting him pretty hard in that one because it's not that good in general and, worse, a lot of the characters are pretty out of character. I recall hearing that I Shall Wear Midnight was good, though, so clearly the degradation was not linear so yeah. I can't recall what the thread consensus or fandom one was on Raising Steam.

I always felt Thud! speaking of his alzheimers - since I recall that was the first one published after the announcement, I think? - was rather underrated. Then again, I love the Watch and the Dwarves so yeah.

EDIT: And for some additional context on my thoughts on 'lesser' Pratchett; I liked Making Money. I didn't think it was bad per se, just kind of a retread of Going Postal and a bit weaker. Still pretty fun.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

RoboChrist 9000 posted:

Is Raising Steam worth reading?

Please, for the love of God, let's not have another "you can tell that the Alzheimers was affecting him" debate. It's loving depressing and if I wanted that poo poo in my life I'd buy misery porn.

The difference between Pratchett pre- and post-condition is that the books started to read more like first drafts. They didn't become bad, ever.

thetoughestbean
Apr 27, 2013

Keep On Shroomin

RoboChrist 9000 posted:

Is Raising Steam worth reading? I've avoided Snuff because I've heard from this thread and elsewhere that the alzheimers, sadly, must have been hitting him pretty hard in that one because it's not that good in general and, worse, a lot of the characters are pretty out of character. I recall hearing that I Shall Wear Midnight was good, though, so clearly the degradation was not linear so yeah. I can't recall what the thread consensus or fandom one was on Raising Steam.

I always felt Thud! speaking of his alzheimers - since I recall that was the first one published after the announcement, I think? - was rather underrated. Then again, I love the Watch and the Dwarves so yeah.

EDIT: And for some additional context on my thoughts on 'lesser' Pratchett; I liked Making Money. I didn't think it was bad per se, just kind of a retread of Going Postal and a bit weaker. Still pretty fun.

Raising Steam and Snuff are both worth reading, imo. They’re different but they’re good send offs to Discworld

yaffle
Sep 15, 2002

Flapdoodle
I quite liked Snuff, Raising Steam I can't even remember.

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



Jedit posted:

They didn't become bad, ever.
Everything starting with I Shall Wear Midnight is bad, but regular "this is a book that doesn't have a point and isn't terribly funny" kind of bad. Only Raising Steam and Shepard's Crown (in particular) are unreadable.

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


Shepherd's Crown is good though?

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW
Shepherd's Crown is unreadable but only because you can't see the pages through your tears.

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde
I've read everything, but I only reread up to I shall Wear Midnight. I think it's as good a send-off as you can get.

I do not recommend anything after that, but feel free to make up your own mind.

Cardiac
Aug 28, 2012

YggiDee posted:

Shepherd's Crown is unreadable but only because you can't see the pages through your tears.

:hmmyes:

Jedit posted:

Please, for the love of God, let's not have another "you can tell that the Alzheimers was affecting him" debate. It's loving depressing and if I wanted that poo poo in my life I'd buy misery porn.

The difference between Pratchett pre- and post-condition is that the books started to read more like first drafts. They didn't become bad, ever.

And also this.

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ChubbyChecker
Mar 25, 2018

RoboChrist 9000 posted:

Is Raising Steam worth reading? I've avoided Snuff because I've heard from this thread and elsewhere that the alzheimers, sadly, must have been hitting him pretty hard in that one because it's not that good in general and, worse, a lot of the characters are pretty out of character. I recall hearing that I Shall Wear Midnight was good, though, so clearly the degradation was not linear so yeah. I can't recall what the thread consensus or fandom one was on Raising Steam.

I always felt Thud! speaking of his alzheimers - since I recall that was the first one published after the announcement, I think? - was rather underrated. Then again, I love the Watch and the Dwarves so yeah.

EDIT: And for some additional context on my thoughts on 'lesser' Pratchett; I liked Making Money. I didn't think it was bad per se, just kind of a retread of Going Postal and a bit weaker. Still pretty fun.

it's unreadable

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