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Dexo posted:https://twitter.com/dave_schilling/status/1296502666730680325 whitlock and bill simmons are two sides of the same stupid coin MourningView posted:$12.00 an hour and mandating that the person live in one of the most expensive places in the country is pretty hosed up. that’s barely livable in my mid-atlantic medium sized city how the gently caress can you survive on that in l.a. while also not being allowed to take on outside work??
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Declan MacManus posted:that’s barely livable in my mid-atlantic medium sized city how the gently caress can you survive on that in l.a. while also not being allowed to take on outside work?? Honestly even being paid for an internship is a rarity
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Boban plays like 10 minutes a game lol. morestuff posted:Honestly even being paid for an internship is a rarity Yeah but unpaid internships are also horseshit. And I mean obviously a lot of people there have to make due on less but that full time salary is also pretty awful if you're forcing them to live in LA, especially if he was actually on the high end.
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AndrewP posted:I'm assuming Mallory Rubin is management? She replaced Fennessy as Editor in Chief last year. Which goes back to one of the complaints in the letter, the management team has been quite happy to give itself all sorts of titles, but I think Concepcion is the only employee with "senior" in his title, very definitely could be wrong there though,
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MourningView posted:Yeah but unpaid internships are also horseshit. And I mean obviously a lot of people there have to make due on less but that full time salary is also pretty awful if you're forcing them to live in LA, especially if he was actually on the high end. Yeah I'm not defending the practice, just pointing out that's depressingly better than average
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Paying junior people like poo poo when you can clearly afford not to is a great way to make talented and relatively cheap employees leave
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Katie Baker is back at the Ringer? I should check them out more often. I've enjoyed her stuff for a solid decade.
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habeasdorkus posted:Katie Baker is back at the Ringer? I should check them out more often. I've enjoyed her stuff for a solid decade.
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MourningView posted:Yeah but unpaid internships are also horseshit. And I mean obviously a lot of people there have to make due on less but that full time salary is also pretty awful if you're forcing them to live in LA, especially if he was actually on the high end.
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MourningView posted:One of the issues I think a lot of the employees have is that the podcasts are the most visible and profitable part of the company and they are heavily filled by either management or people from outside the company, especially on the most successful shows, and the opportunities for the actual ringer employees to get a spot on them have been fairly limited. The Rewatchables was supposed to be that but it turned into the Bill Simmons Chris Ryan show.
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MourningView posted:Boban plays like 10 minutes a game lol. So did Bill Walton-"gets stabbed mid take"
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FMguru posted:It's one of the most insidious forms of elite gatekeeping. The only way to get a job in media/showbiz/politics is to either 1) know somebody, or 2) work a series of minwage or unpaid internships in an eyewateringly-expensive metropolis (NYC, LA, SF, DC), which is something that only people with family resources have the ability to realistically accomplish. As a result, the people working in media/showbiz/politics overwhelmingly come from well-connected and deep-pocketed families (and are collectively about as ethnically diverse as a Klan meeting). Depends on the media. It's definitely not the case in small-town radio or newspapers.
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FMguru posted:It's one of the most insidious forms of elite gatekeeping. The only way to get a job in media/showbiz/politics is to either 1) know somebody, or 2) work a series of minwage or unpaid internships in an eyewateringly-expensive metropolis (NYC, LA, SF, DC), which is something that only people with family resources have the ability to realistically accomplish. As a result, the people working in media/showbiz/politics overwhelmingly come from well-connected and deep-pocketed families (and are collectively about as ethnically diverse as a Klan meeting). if you remember the Bon Appetit video scandal, Alex (who it was being rumored by a few of the PoC writers "made millions a year and was from wealth") came out and said he actually had to go into massive amounts of credit-card debt so he could fit in and "live the BA lifestyle" (funny enough, one of the people pushing that theory, Priya, came from wealth herself)
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I started at Fox Sports in LA at 13/hour. In 2015. Was very cool to not see a raise when simultaneously Jason Whitlock got hired and was being paid insanely.
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The Athletic put out a real good article about athlete salaries are overpaid or not: https://theathletic.com/2014283/2020/08/24/are-professional-athletes-paid-too-much-the-answer-may-surprise-you/ tl;dr for those without a subscription: They're not, if anything, even the superstars like LeBron are underpaid relative to the revenue they generate. But a big issue at hand that's discussed is parents pushing their kids towards a career in it while neglecting other skills which leaves them screwed when they can't make a big league club. edit: the best quote: quote:So while some fans may bemoan the immense contracts, it’s ultimately fans that generate the money to create those deals – they’re willing to put their cash behind their team loyalties and to see elite talent perform. And some people even pay to watch the Cleveland Browns. seiferguy fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Aug 24, 2020 |
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Another outlet down. https://twitter.com/YaronWeitzman/status/1297999882171670531?s=20
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No joke. I spend a lot of time on sports reporting and reading poo poo. What was bleacher report mag? Did they actually have a physical copy type publication???
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soggybagel posted:No joke. I spend a lot of time on sports reporting and reading poo poo. What was bleacher report mag? Did they actually have a physical copy type publication??? It was basically their long-form section. If you've read any stuff by Howard Beck or Jonathan Abrams on BR it was probably produced by the Mag section
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seiferguy posted:The Athletic put out a real good article about athlete salaries are overpaid or not: https://theathletic.com/2014283/2020/08/24/are-professional-athletes-paid-too-much-the-answer-may-surprise-you/ I don’t have a subscription, but I wonder if they talk about any growth in companies buying up tickets instead of the regular fan. Ticket costs are going up well past inflation, and it’s definitely getting to the point where families can’t afford to go to a game that often, even the cheap seats are expensive. Teams have really shifted their focus to getting corporate money, either through skyboxes or just super expensive premier seats.
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Bird in a Blender posted:I don’t have a subscription, but I wonder if they talk about any growth in companies buying up tickets instead of the regular fan. Ticket costs are going up well past inflation, and it’s definitely getting to the point where families can’t afford to go to a game that often, even the cheap seats are expensive. Teams have really shifted their focus to getting corporate money, either through skyboxes or just super expensive premier seats. They do touch on that
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howe_sam posted:If you want to know who the cool people at the Ringer are, here you go. That’s a good union
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Bird in a Blender posted:I don’t have a subscription, but I wonder if they talk about any growth in companies buying up tickets instead of the regular fan. Ticket costs are going up well past inflation, and it’s definitely getting to the point where families can’t afford to go to a game that often, even the cheap seats are expensive. Teams have really shifted their focus to getting corporate money, either through skyboxes or just super expensive premier seats. Yeah, there's a small bit on that: quote:Even non-stars in the major leagues average millions of dollars in annual salary, and rookies and benchwarmers are paid hundreds of thousands of dollars, all per collective bargaining agreements between player unions and team owners/leagues. And their salary information is readily available for public and media consumption, more so than private-sector corporate compensation for CEOs and executives. Fan irritation at what they believe to be bloated player salaries is particularly acute when players fail to live up to the hype, and when expensive payrolls fail to win — an inherent risk in sports.
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How could this exact thing happen twice in a month https://twitter.com/sportsradiopd/status/1298021786747990016?s=21
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Assuming that this is an accident and that he got tripped up by autocorrect or he fat-fingered the keys on his phone, did he have to  so desperately that he couldn't look down for a second to see what he had typed? Henchman of Santa posted:The Nuggets have to change their name to save people with oddly racist text libraries Mildly related, I'm surprised no one's previously been fired for botching the pronunciation on Knickerbockers.
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GoutPatrol posted:So did Bill Walton-"gets stabbed mid take" Bill Walton averaged nearly 30 mpg over his career, Boban averages under 10. Please workshop your joke more or the committee will have to reject it, submit report in triplicate
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Maven has replaced CEO Jim Heckman with Ross Levinsohn. A name you may recognize as former publisher/CEO of the LA Times where he... well...quote:Levinsohn was sued in separate sexual harassment lawsuits as an executive at two different corporations. By his own sworn testimony, Levinsohn admitted to rating the relative “hotness” of his female colleagues in office banter as a vice president at a digital media company. He also testified that he speculated about whether a woman who worked for him there was a stripper on the side.
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This is very cool and good: https://mobile.twitter.com/natalieweiner/status/1300429088964870144 https://mobile.twitter.com/natalieweiner/status/1300433301447028737 quote:Publication to Be Named Later is a brand-new cooperative sports quarterly run by your favorite free-agent internet writers, editors and artists. The people working on the first issue are largely composed of former SBNation.com employees, but in time we'd like PTBNL to become a refuge for weird, inclusive and wonderful writing of any origin. We hope that you will be as excited about this project as we are. Paracaidas fucked around with this message at 15:08 on Aug 31, 2020 |
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Spencer Hall is part of it, as is Ryan Nanni, who I thought survived the SBNation bloodbath. Did he jet on his own or is he doing both?
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"Ryan Nanni on the Tao of Spergon Wynn" is a bat signal for the Football Funhouse
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oh cool sbnation made a prestige site that gathered all of its top talent under a single banner don't see this going wrong
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DJExile posted:oh my god this is the most jon bois looking website It really is quite incredible.
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Declan MacManus posted:oh cool sbnation made a prestige site that gathered all of its top talent under a single banner I mean it looks a lot less like a prestige site and more like just a simple landing page for their videos
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morestuff posted:I mean it looks a lot less like a prestige site and more like just a simple landing page for their videos They say it's going to have blog posts and stuff too but this is primarily what it is, yeah. RIP A Huge Dog dot com.
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