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OK, I still say you don't need to watch Build Divers to enjoy ReRise, just get a short summary of Sara plot. But I would love to know what someone who hadn't seen Divers would make of that evil Astray controlled by a boy and his Haroamigolupus posted:They actually confirmed that the two are linked in OG Build Divers. The first season's antagonist was someone who used to play with the battle board setup in Fighters and got really pissed how everyone else moved on to GBN. He even challenged Riku to fight using the old system. It looked the same, but it was called Gunpla Duel instead of Gunpla Battle. Which i took to mean that Build Divers takes place in a slightly different universe from Build Fighters
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Endorph posted:The legacy gunpla battle system might have been rebranded because now people can have 'gunpla battles' in GBN. But Tsukasa calls it GPD. And he's so mad about the decline of GPD he concocts an elaborate multi-year revenge scheme to destroy GBN forever. So if the arrival of GBN also caused a renaming of the game he liked, I don't think he would've gone along with that.
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That was a decent enough final episode, though it definitely felt like the previous episode was the finale. On the other hand, this was the opportunity every Build series needs to show off mental custom builds - If we don't get a kit of the ninja Zakrello I'mma be rather annoyed. And I'm glad we saw the return to Eldora, not just for the team but also to get a sense of the new status quo now Alus is no longer threatening the world. Anyone can rise again, even a lone One-Eye can get a sombrero.
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amigolupus posted:The last episode's up. I agree. This episode is clearly a falling action even though it was escalated by Alus last episode. As Cuadorn and Masaki point out, the whole thing was a setup to get Alus out of the Eldoran mainframe and into a place he could be trapped. Once he was in the trap, there wasn't really a way to "lose" in a sense. Tinfoil time: I think with the devs being in on it, it would be pretty trivial to deal with Alus if it started to look like things were not going to go well with the 3rd Coalition Battle. A smart dev team, knowing what the plan is, would disconnect and power down their backup system when the Divers headed to Eldora. Once Alus is in GBN, he's stuck, and if poo poo goes south... unplug the servers. Like, it's still a video game, running on a computer. The logic that leaves Masaki comatose/dead from dying on Eldora is the same that kills Alus if the servers are powered down and the hard drives shredded. Then restore from a backup and give everyone a bunch of currency as an apology. That is, of course, boring television, and the climax was last episode anyway so this is the falling action. Unlike Seltzam's Deadline, I didn't see a chance that the heroes might lose here anyway, because they already won last episode. Regarding May and the baby El-Diver, eh. The scene came across as weird and kinda forced. I think my dissonance comes from using the baby to illustrate the point, since I'd assumed that the El-Divers come into being already grown. Because it begs the question who raised May/Sarah/Eve and how fast do they mature because...? Honestly, the falling action nature of the episode leads me to not really have much commentary. Oh, Rommel logging in his alt-account mid fight to team up with his fan was so dorky it was great.  DigitalRaven posted:That was a decent enough final episode, though it definitely felt like the previous episode was the finale. On the other hand, this was the opportunity every Build series needs to show off mental custom builds - If we don't get a kit of the ninja Zakrello I'mma be rather annoyed. And I'm glad we saw the return to Eldora, not just for the team but also to get a sense of the new status quo now Alus is no longer threatening the world. Anyone can rise again, even a lone One-Eye can get a sombrero. I'm pretty sure the white mobile suit with a Sengoku head, Barbatos arms, and Red Astray legs is from the Gundam Breaker gacha game's competition they had during January/Feburary, where you could submit a gunpla you built in the game and it would appear in the show. I'm basing this off the fact that Barbatos arms and Astray legs was meta at the time.
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, the Build DIvers reaching out to Alus, Hiroto just loving equipping all the armors, Alus getting his chance to Re:Rise, mysterious unexplainable Newtype-esque bullshit and wrapping up the loose ends. Seriously, May bringing them to what's probably the birthing place of El-Divers and seeing Baby Alus was so loving weird, it's great.
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Was that Sakai in part of the Tryon-3 (the Umi Tryon) who picked up Momo out of the lake? Different universes and all but a guy can wonder
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Endorph posted:The legacy gunpla battle system might have been rebranded because now people can have 'gunpla battles' in GBN. The legacy system also had hardware joystick controls, compared to the 'light orbs' from Build Fighters. I thought the ending was pretty good, following the tradition of a big amazing battle at the end of a Build series. But I do want something non-build soon.
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I think this was a pretty good wrap-up of a show that honestly had no business being this strong to begin with. I'm glad they at least didn't go the route of saying that the el-divers are literally eldorans but rather that the eldoran data streams were just the final catalyst needed for their birth. I'm also glad they saved the most important plot revelation for last:
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everythingWasBees posted:https://twitter.com/HobbySite/status/1298949678793240583?s=19 Yesssssss, I saw an unsourced comment about this on the Youtube video.
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Gripweed posted:OK, I still say you don't need to watch Build Divers to enjoy ReRise, just get a short summary of Sara plot. But I would love to know what someone who hadn't seen Divers would make of that evil Astray controlled by a boy and his Haro Depends on how far down the mecha rabbit hole they've gone. I'm pretty sure that doubled as a Mazinkaiser SKL reference.
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I mean they're a bunch of mmo devs and mods they absolutely don't get paid enough to think that hard about it
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Third season is the evil Mobage company trying to turn the new AI lifeforms into gacha cards
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everythingWasBees posted:I mean they're a bunch of mmo devs and mods they absolutely don't get paid enough to think that hard about it I think that is probably what they're discussing during that lunch scene. Considering they were talking about an intrusion that occurred during internal development that no one could explain.
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Good episode, though it should have ended with Hiroto and May kissing as the sun set in the background
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Droyer posted:Good episode, though it should have ended with Hiroto and May kissing as the sun set in the background Gross, don't kiss your dead girlfriend's daughter.
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So, I realize I'm years behind these sorts of discussions, but I just watched IBO as my first series since Wing and G Gundam back when they were on Cartoon Network. Is there a reason there are more complaints about Naze and the Turbines than McGillis and his explicitly prepubescent child bride? At least S2 tries to walk back some of the Turbine's creepiness, McGillis gives a speech how he wants to create a world where he and his child bride can live without people giving them the stink eye. Did I miss some reading that makes less insanely weird? Is it supposed to just be a clear flag that McGillis is, in fact, not a straight up good guy? It feels like there are other ways to go about that. Anyway, War in the Pocket on Youtube up next, then probably Unicorn because its on Netflix. EDITed in some spoiler tags, just to err on the side of caution. Boxman fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Aug 28, 2020 |
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Boxman posted:So, I realize I'm years behind these sorts of discussions, but I just watched IBO as my first series since Wing and G Gundam back when they were on Cartoon Network. McGillis gets along with his child bride because they have the same mental age. He's hiding horrific abuse-induced arrested development behind a mask of apparent competence. Darth Walrus fucked around with this message at 02:17 on Aug 28, 2020 |
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Boxman posted:So, I realize I'm years behind these sorts of discussions, but I just watched IBO as my first series since Wing and G Gundam back when they were on Cartoon Network. I think it's because Naze is presented as a cool stand-up guy whereas Mcgillis is not, so people are more willing to accept McGillis doing bad stuff.
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Yeah, the "he's not entirely cool" is the answer I thought of, but Darth's explanation makes sense too, and I hadn't considered it. Thanks!
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Rabbi Tupac posted:Does it have legs? Just boosters seemingly, but it has a bigger skirt now as well so I wouldn't be surprised if it had some legs or a bunch of extra arms hidden in there
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drrockso20 posted:More Thunderbolt spoilers; the Nise Gundam & Braw Bro combo effortlessly wipes out the Luna 2 garrison(the G-Bull and it's escorts survive though), meanwhile Io is deploying to intercept him in a Federation upgraded Zeong Is Io a newtype?
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Ethiser posted:Is Io a newtype? one of those Newtype Twins is helping him pilot it
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Darth Walrus posted:McGillis gets along with his child bride because they have the same mental age. He's hiding horrific abuse-induced arrested development behind a mask of apparent competence. its been a while but theres no real indication that mcgilles has any real sexual interest in her that i remember so yeah it does feel more like hes playing house still a bizarre plotpoint mind
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I've kinda been reading it as him being kind/manipulative to this poor girl who's been sold into an arranged marriage for the sake of power consolidation or whatever more than him actually being happy about being married to a little kid, but I'm not quite finished the series yet
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Boxman posted:Yeah, the "he's not entirely cool" is the answer I thought of, but Darth's explanation makes sense too, and I hadn't considered it. Thanks! It's also a Char reference. Which is part of why it took most viewers so long to realize that McGillis wasn't as on top of things as he thought he was. Also, as a warning, Unicorn's pretty reference heavy, so there's going to be a lot of bits where the show goes "Remember thing?" that won't mean anything to you.
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Classon Ave. Robot posted:I've kinda been reading it as him being kind/manipulative to this poor girl who's been sold into an arranged marriage for the sake of power consolidation or whatever more than him actually being happy about being married to a little kid, but I'm not quite finished the series yet This is absolutely what it is, and I don't know how folks are drawing other conclusions. He very obviously has basically no interest in her romantically, he just knows the power that being in that family will bring him, so he goes along with it to further his own goals. He kinda treats everyone around him in the same way.
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chiasaur11 posted:Also, as a warning, Unicorn's pretty reference heavy, so there's going to be a lot of bits where the show goes "Remember thing?" that won't mean anything to you. Yeah but most of the time a new fan won't even realize they're missing references. I remember someone else watching Unicorn as a new Gundam fan itt, and the only moment they were confused was when Bright looked poignantly at a photo of some red head dude.
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:This is absolutely what it is, and I don't know how folks are drawing other conclusions. Except when she tries to stab herself. Remember that? McGillis took a wound that was a contributing factor in his defeat to save her, even when he thought he would have uncontested power no matter what happened thanks to Bael. McGillis really does care about Almiria, which is part of the tragedy. Despite his surface layer mastermind persona, he's just a broken child beneath it, and everyone he ever loved, and everyone who ever believed in him, suffers for it.
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dang, 0083 would have ruled if they included all the additions (but minus the fanservice cameos) from the rebellion manga. my real burning love are the friends i made along the way to a Baoa qu
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chiasaur11 posted:Except when she tries to stab herself. Remember that? McGillis took a wound that was a contributing factor in his defeat to save her, even when he thought he would have uncontested power no matter what happened thanks to Bael. i mean, to be fair, that doesn’t mean he’s romantically interested in her, just that he cares about her, which is basically what he said. Honestly as far as this subject goes, Mika/Atra was a much more yikes thing for me but I’m probably just weird.
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They look even younger (tho Mika is shredded) than they are due to the whole underfed orphans thing, but they are like 16? so still pretty young.
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