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Spender was originally an exposition dump NPC who was handed off as an emergency character to someone who had their regular game collapse 15 minutes before the start of Paranatural's first session
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PMush Perfect posted:No, Spender is the guy who keeps acting like he’s still the protagonist despite his narrative arc being finished, and the literal generation-long time skip specifically done because his character got too OP.
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Aug 23, 2020 13:17
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Spender is the DMPC who doesn’t give out pertinent lore because it would ruin the pacing of the campaign
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Aug 23, 2020 15:01
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https://www.paranatural.net/comic/chapter-7-page-16 Update! I guess it's a little early this time to make up for last week's snafu.
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Aug 28, 2020 02:49
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BlackPersona posted:https://www.paranatural.net/comic/chapter-7-page-16 Update! I guess it's a little early this time to make up for last week's snafu. Oh poo poo, so that's why Angel told Penny to not reveal to anyone that she has White energy.
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Aug 28, 2020 03:23
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SKULL.GIF posted:Oh poo poo, so that's why Angel told Penny to not reveal to anyone that she has White energy. She's almost definitely the angelic figure that Forge was talking about, I think. Also, are we about to get a flashback within a flashback?
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Aug 28, 2020 03:28
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Yikes this is unexpectedly heavy poo poo.SKULL.GIF posted:Oh poo poo, so that's why Angel told Penny to not reveal to anyone that she has White energy. Got a page link for this?
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Aug 28, 2020 03:29
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Podima posted:Got a page link for this? https://www.paranatural.net/comic/chapter-6-page-46 We knew White energy was rare, but until now we didn't know the implications that it would have. Penny and, presumably, any other spectrals with White energy would be major targets.
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Aug 28, 2020 03:45
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Oh, a Wight's not that big a deal. Just the spectral equivalent of a nuclear reactor. 
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Aug 28, 2020 04:28
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God every page has just been so interesting lately.
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Aug 28, 2020 05:27
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So what about black energy then? Counts as no colours? Can't pull at all from anything not black?
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Aug 28, 2020 09:48
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it's... quite common, actually
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Aug 28, 2020 12:18
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I could guess black spectrals can only use black spirits, while colours can use similar colours and of course white can use anything.
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Aug 28, 2020 12:24
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And anyone can use black spirits maybe?
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Aug 28, 2020 12:38
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https://twitter.com/paranaturalzack/status/1299189035462656006
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Aug 28, 2020 14:13
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I seriously did not expect boss leader to be so forthcoming about this she continues to own in new, fasicnating ways!
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Aug 28, 2020 19:06
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Remember she's expressly called out Spender's teaching style as crazy bullshit. She was also very upfront about things when talking to Max in dreamland.
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Aug 28, 2020 19:15
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Yeah, Isaac is just out of luck due to being a medium for a spirit that the Consortium knows is hostile and presumably actually fought against in the past (specifically against Spender even), meaning that wanting to keep potentially dangerous information away from him makes sense. And even then Boss Leader calls out Spender keeping too much secret from him. Of course, shock and awe also might be part of her goal here. Kids getting too nosy? Instead of tantalizing them with hints or excuses that make them want to look deeper because they know you're hiding something, just show them exactly how dangerous what they're asking about is and scare them back in line. Like, young Mina here would definitely keep pursuing answers on what a wight is if she got deflections from Boss Leader, and those investigations could eventually lead to her actually finding a wight or something, and then? Dead kid, probably. So instead, just be upfront that they are immortal, insane, unfathomably powerful spirits, possibly drop some stuff relating to her own history as further demonstration of what bad news they are and all, and it might hopefully get her to realize what a bad idea messing with them is, or at least look into other avenues of trying to help Dr. Burger than messing with wights.
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Aug 28, 2020 20:39
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I mean, Boss Leader also can just wipe everyone's memories of this entire event if she chooses too but that wouldn't remove the base curiosity they already have. Unless she can actually do some crazier mind bending stuff but that'd be very distressing and utterly broken.
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Aug 28, 2020 20:59
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Boss Leader is going to wipe all their memories afterwards and say "That wasn't for you, that was for..." *looks at camera, winks*
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Aug 28, 2020 21:44
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So if Sandman is Boss Leader's spirit, then I think that debunks the theory that the black spider was BL keeping an eye on the train... and possibly introduces another member of the Consortium who we haven't met yet who's been watching Day and Spender. Sandman being some sort of moon-themed spirit also reminded me of another celestial body spirit... Sun and Moon, black and white, both extremely dangerous to the point that they're apparently capable of stripping clean everything in a large radius around it. We don't know yet what measures Boss Leader is using to contain Sandman, but I'd bet you the barrier around Mayview is specifically to contain Spender's "nuclear bomb". Back to Sandman for a moment. As Boss Leader says, that it's White energy is exactly what makes it so dangerous -- being an Universal Recipient means when it's destroyed it can strip energy from everything around it. I'm guessing that the White energy also means it's a feedback loop: that it could take energy from everything meant that it became powerful much more easily than spirits of other colors. Because it became more powerful, it also becomes increasingly dangerous to kill, because every time it's destroyed it immediately reincarnates by stripping energy from around it. At some point you have to permanently contain these things. Final thought: If White spectral energy works that way, and White spectrals are artificially-created, then what's the deal with Black spectral energy? We haven't seen any Black-energy spirits yet, I think -- aside from Rick's bomb -- and only Max and Dr. Burger have been shown to have Black energy. I think Black energy being "... fairly common." is going to be a plot point.
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Aug 28, 2020 22:27
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SKULL.GIF posted:So if Sandman is Boss Leader's spirit, then I think that debunks the theory that the black spider was BL keeping an eye on the train... and possibly introduces another member of the Consortium who we haven't met yet who's been watching Day and Spender.
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Aug 28, 2020 22:36
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Splicer posted:Max's scrapwyrm is black Ah, so it is, I thought we hadn't confirmed its color yet but both times in the spirit world you can see it's giving off scraps of Black energy. The red/blue eyes took primacy in my recollection, I guess.
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Aug 28, 2020 22:39
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Also: Presumably Boss Leader in the middle. Could that be Garcia on the left, looking nerdier?
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Aug 28, 2020 22:43
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Splicer posted:Max's scrapwyrm is black So is Doorman's ninja bunny friend, as well as one of Grandpa Guerra's students.
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Aug 28, 2020 22:55
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Also: I don't know. Rick is a teenager in this flashback, and I got the impression he and Jean were around the same age. BL says "There was a time I was like you... young, and free of knowledge of such creatures" so in all likelihood it's 1. high school/college-aged BL 2. at minimum several years ago given that BL has had time to both become possessed and for the possession to grow to such an extent that her appearance is now a dream mummy in a pajama suit.
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Aug 28, 2020 23:02
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I assume Garcia is roughly as old as Spender, meaning he might not even have been alive during the events of the upcoming double-flashback
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Aug 28, 2020 23:04
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I see no reason to assume that given his weird supernatural dealings! The point I was getting at is that he might be very long-lived.
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Aug 28, 2020 23:06
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The real thing of note this page is the realization that killing a wight is a horrible idea specifically because doing so forces it to evolve and subsequently detonating the equivalent of a spectral nuke. But that also means that there has to be some record of a wight dying because BL knows the outcome and now I'm imagining a kaiju battle between two of these creatures.
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Aug 28, 2020 23:16
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This is probably absolute horseshit wild guessing but with the talk of a Broken God much earlier in the comic, how probable is it that the "broken god" is a Wight that somehow got split up into its constituent colours and is now sealed in like eight separate places and people (seven rainbow, plus black)? One of them possibly being Spender since he's so ultra paranoid about not touching yellow tools. The Wight that Doctor Burger is currently (inhabited by? consumed by?) is probably a different one, sealed at the bottom of the lake, where nothing with spectral energy can/will go. Except Rick Spender.
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Aug 29, 2020 03:26
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Also: It's a young Francisco Guerra, book it
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Aug 29, 2020 05:16
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Acebuckeye13 posted:It's a young Francisco Guerra, book it Yeah this is my guess. Jean Garcia has a way more angular face and jaw, the facial shape displayed here is closer to Francisco, and Zack's the type of artist to pay attention to details like that.
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Aug 29, 2020 05:22
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MarquiseMindfang posted:This is probably absolute horseshit wild guessing but with the talk of a Broken God much earlier in the comic, how probable is it that the "broken god" is a Wight that somehow got split up into its constituent colours and is now sealed in like eight separate places and people (seven rainbow, plus black)? I think Spender's just paranoid about yellow tools because Lucifer's yellow and needs all of Spender's delicious yarn to keep the shadow spirit caged.
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Aug 29, 2020 05:31
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neogeo0823 posted:She's almost definitely the angelic figure that Forge was talking about, I think. I don't know if Penny is the angel but I'd absolutely bet real money that the angel is a wight. Look at the text here, it's all rainbow-colored: https://www.paranatural.net/comic/chapter-5-page-15
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Aug 29, 2020 05:33
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I can't wait for the part where Max takes his bat apart and dual wields it.
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If Wights almost instantly come from the brink when they’re killed, then how did Boss Leader become a medium for Sandman? The whole point is to feed off spectral energy to regain their strength, to the point where Eightfold had to off herself to go back into the tool. Somehow this thing had to have been taken down in an area practically devoid of anything it could feed off of, and I imagine that includes spectrals.
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Aug 29, 2020 08:16
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I don't think Sandman has been destroyed because Boss Leader still refers to it as a wight. Doesn't seem to be any restriction on Wight's being bonded to a Spectral
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Aug 29, 2020 12:48
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I initially took Sandman to have a sort of birdlike head. Like some kind of... phoenix wight.
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Aug 29, 2020 14:14
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Yeah it's just a big cockatoo IMO. It definitely has a birdlike beak.
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I think it's a crescent moon. Like this but with a pointy nose. It even has other crescent moons on the top of it's head.
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