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Wouldn't actually mind seeing Big R running head on into Masa Kitamiya a few times.
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# ? Sep 6, 2020 16:15 |
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# ? Jun 8, 2024 08:04 |
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i miss big green
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# ? Sep 6, 2020 19:18 |
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forkboy84 posted:Wouldn't actually mind seeing Big R running head on into Masa Kitamiya a few times. Wrestling needs more beefy bois in singlets running into each other Sumo style, personally.
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# ? Sep 6, 2020 19:23 |
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https://twitter.com/RealHero12089/status/1302685991556321283?s=20 Big Japan match between Minoru Suzuki vs Takuya Nomura from last Sunday is up now
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# ? Sep 6, 2020 20:16 |
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What was the reason Ace reigns in mid-2000s NOAH and AJPW were ended by Rikio and Taiyo Kea of all people?
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 14:10 |
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Tonfa posted:What was the reason Ace reigns in mid-2000s NOAH and AJPW were ended by Rikio and Taiyo Kea of all people? NOAH's Heavyweight division was ageing & they were hurting. Their biggest prospects were the Juniors KENTA & Marufuji at a time when the divide between the weight classes was much bigger than it is now. Kobashi had missed all of 2001 with knee surgery & couldn't stay on top forever, they had to elevate someone & Rikio was a heavyweight who hadn't spent a decade+ in All Japan doing that hard style. They could have gone to Morishima but he probably wasn't ready yet. Other than that, Bison Smith, Minoru Suzuki, Genichiro Tenryu or it goes back to Misawa, Taue or Akiyama. Sugiura is still a Junior, Shiozaki is just 2 years into his career, Yone was never more than a tag guy. NOAH had a problem with their fans just not wanting to accept anyone out of the big 4 guys at the GHC Heavyweight title level, or at elevating that next tier of guys if you prefer. At least with Taiyo Kea he had the thing of being one of the few guys not to jump to NOAH so it was kind of an emotional moment when he won the TC. There's worse transitional champions.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 16:08 |
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NOAH fans may have wanted just the big 4 but NOAH at the time was also not that great at supporting talent when they pushed them to the top. Rikio was never gonna be a guy but having his first defense of the title be on a dome show with Kobhashi/Sasaki and Misawa/Kawada was always going to kill his run dead. And having Marafuji win the title on a roll up over Taue and his first defense be against Kenta also killed that run dead
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 17:52 |
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Oh god, that's right, Rikio was buried 4th from top in a GHC title match, that is insanity. (His first defence was against Saito on a Budokan show though, Tana was 2nd)
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 18:13 |
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Thanks for motivating me to dig out my Destiny 05 DVD, it's been years since I watched that show. Outside of the big 3 matches, there's a real fun Jr Title match between Kenta and Yoshinobu Kanemaru. It's weird seeing Uncle Nobu so young, i'm too used to him being a drunk curmudgeon nowadays.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 19:22 |
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Tonfa posted:What was the reason Ace reign in mid-2000s NOAH [was] ended by Rikio of all people? Rikio was awesome and super underrated, that's why
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 21:35 |
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i still think marafujis first run was completely sabotaged
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 23:07 |
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Yeah it and Morishima's first run was but I could see why they did it if the spot show money was drying up as they wanted more Misawa than say new guys (which sadly led to Misawa's death so,....)
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 00:03 |
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It's really a shame they didn't go with Morishima instead of Rikio as "the future" in 2005, when it wasn't too late to maintain some momentum. I'm not sure it mattered because neither one held a candle to the '90s stars, but Morishima was exponentially more compelling. Rikio's first defenses being against Saito and semi-green Tanahashi was also such criminally bad booking on top of the fact that Rikio was never going to pull it off. Nakamura or Nagata would have been exponentially better for the Dome. Oh and of course they had Rikio vs Saito go 25 drat minutes rather than do a tight 12-14 minute slugfest that would actually play to their strengths. So Rikio had two totally boring and essentially free defenses right off the bat. (Yet somehow Rikio vs Taue was good, go figure)
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 01:47 |
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Tanahashi wrestled in NOAH? Was he invading from NJPW? I started watching this person's YT video series on King's Road: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5rIvqco0YWrJ5Q02m3csJ7kjB0f_IcEV It's pretty nice (although I kind of cringed when he enunciated a Japanese accent for Stan Hansen's Lariat(o)).
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 07:26 |
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Uh so here's Nick Aldis interviewing Go Shiozaki https://twitter.com/akarin_0823/status/1303506701090304000?s=19
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 08:33 |
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https://twitter.com/shupromobile/status/1303600894643183619?s=20 Dragon Gate are doing some show for Amazon Prime Japan.
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 09:01 |
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forkboy84 posted:https://twitter.com/shupromobile/status/1303600894643183619?s=20 From their English Facebook page: In partnership with the LEC Corporation, DRAGONGATE will be launching a new program on the Amazon Prime Video Japan service. The show will be title “dragongate”. The lowercase letters are used to denote that this show will be entirely different from the main DRAGONGATE brand. At the press conference today, Naruki Doi said that even he himself will be trying things that aren’t possible on the main brand. Fans should come in with no preconceived notions about what to expect. One thing that can be expected is the revival of the Strong Machines. While Strong Machine J has been performing on his own as a part of the DRAGONGATE Generation, he has activated the other Machines from their hibernation. Volume 1 will be available on September 10th. Please note that as of now this is exclusive to the Amazon Japan Prime service. Excited to see what a Hollywood Stalker Cinematic Match looks like.
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 21:47 |
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Watching the NOAH show from this weekend that made it on to Wrestle Universe and first 3 matches are totally ok but 4th match is a Junior 6 man with Full Throttle vs Kongo and Tadasuke is fitting in even more, rocking a red leather jacket and sunglasses, somehow making him look even sleazier. It's great. https://twitter.com/rembrandt_kbs/status/1302571216989872129?s=19
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# ? Sep 9, 2020 23:41 |
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Main event 6 man tag has lots of fun bits, Nakajima and Shiozaki, Kenoh and Shiozaki, Kenoh and Kiyomiya and generally most of the time Taniguchi isn't involved. Beefy lad Inamura had a beautiful overhead belly to belly suplex to Kiyomiya, Go gets the poo poo kicked out of him, match does everything it needed to as far as setting up the N1, setting up (I hope and assume) Nakajima winning that and challenging for the GHC Heavyweight belt.
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# ? Sep 10, 2020 00:17 |
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Ditch posted:It's really a shame they didn't go with Morishima instead of Rikio as "the future" in 2005, when it wasn't too late to maintain some momentum. I'm not sure it mattered because neither one held a candle to the '90s stars, but Morishima was exponentially more compelling. According to Eggshell's the original plan was Nakamura for that match but New Japan refused as they had plans for him in the G1 and that probably was the final nail in the reign for Rikio especially given the state that New Japan was in 2005 Schneider Heim posted:Tanahashi wrestled in NOAH? Was he invading from NJPW? Tanahashi has quite a few matches in NOAH in the early 00's, though mostly tags as the Young Lion with Nagata . But no it wasn't an invasion it was more just NOAH booking a New Japan guy to get some buzz (even if booking Sasaki later in the card outshone it). He'd go back to NOAH for a single vs Shiozaki in 2010 which is rough in spots but is more fun as Tana gets to be a prick and enjoys it
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# ? Sep 10, 2020 01:54 |
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I'm finally catching up with the August 30th NOAH show, and I feel really bad for YO-HEY and Harada. Tadasuke is such a prick and he seems to be loving every second of it. Looking forward to the main event, especially after seeing Nakajima's new look from the September 6th show
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# ? Sep 10, 2020 17:59 |
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SG Bamboo posted:I'm finally catching up with the August 30th NOAH show, and I feel really bad for YO-HEY and Harada. Tadasuke is such a prick and he seems to be loving every second of it. Looking forward to the main event, especially after seeing Nakajima's new look from the September 6th show I've always had a soft spot for Tadasuke because he just drips sleaze but yeah, he's a very entertaining midcard heel. And yes, poor the remains of Ratels
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# ? Sep 10, 2020 18:15 |
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forkboy84 posted:I've always had a soft spot for Tadasuke because he just drips sleaze but yeah, he's a very entertaining midcard heel. He's certainly great. It was so weird seeing him as a junior when I was getting back into NOAH, he's slimmed down a ton since he was representing Osaka Pro in Chikara back in 2010-12. And Masa Funaki is still great, another of that over 50 crowd that can turn it on when they need to.
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# ? Sep 10, 2020 18:54 |
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The weekly puro schedule, featuring the start of both the Champion Carnival & N-1 Victory. A very good week for the wrestling fan 12/9/2020, Saturday 1pm JST/5am BST/12am EST/9pm PST Stardom 5 Star GP 2020 Nishitetsu Hall, Fukuoka Maika vs Saki Kashima vs Konami vs Riho Momo Watanabe vs Hanan 5 Star GP Red Star Block: Mayu Iwatai vs Death Yama-san 5 Star GP Red Star Block: Giulia vs Starlight Kid 5 Star GP Red Star Block: Tam Nakano vs Saya Kamitani 5 Star GP Red Star Block: Himeka vs Death Yama-san? 5 Star GP Blue Star Block: AZM vs Shuri 5 Star GP Blue Star Block: Utami Hayashishita vs Saya Iida 5 Star GP Blue Star Block: Jungle Kyona vs Natsuko Toura Uploaded to Stardom World eventually Tokyo Joshi Pro Fall Tour '20 Wrestling of My Mind Itabashi Green Hall, Tokyo Card TBA Live on Wrestle Universe 6pm JST/10am BST/5am EST/2am PST All Japan Pro Wrestling Champion Carnival Opening Night Nagoya International Congress Centre, Nagoya Koji Iwamoto & Atsuki Aoyagi vs. TAJIRI & Francesco Akira Purple Haze (Zeus, Izanagi, & UTAMARO) vs. Wild Menso (Takao Omori & Black Menso~re) & Ryuki Honda Enfantes Terribles (Shotaro Ashino & Hokuto Omori) vs. Evolution (Hikaru Sato & Dan Tamura) Yoshitatsu Kingdom (Seigo Tachibana & Yusuke Okada) vs. LANDS END (Ryouji Sai & Ishikiri) Champion Carnival A Block: Jiro "Ikemen" Kuroshio vs Jake Lee Champion Carnival A Block: Suwama vs Kuma Arashi Champion Carnival B Block: Shuji Ishikawa vs Yuma Aoyagi Champion Carnival B Block: Kento Miyahara vs Yoshitatsu Live on AJPW TV Dragon Gate Storm Gate Edion Arena #2, Osaka Punch Tominaga, U-T, Ho Ho Lun vs vs Kaito Ishida, Diamante, Kazma Sakamoto Yosuke♡Santa Maria vs H・Y・O Ultimo Dragon & Ryo Saito vs Masaaki Mochizuki & Gamma Masato Yoshino, Don Fujii & Shuji Kondo vs Ben-K, Keisuke Okuda & Jimmy YAMATO, KAI vs Eita & Big R Shimizu Kzy, Kota Minoura, Jason Lee & Dragon Dia vs Naruki Doi, Dragon Kid, Susumu Yokosuka & Kagetora Live on DG Network Stardom 5 Star GP 2020 Nishitetsu Hall, Fukuoka Giulia vs Tam Nakano vs Hanan AZM & Riho vs Natsuko Toura & Saki Kashima 5 Star GP Red Star Block: Mayu Iwatai vs Himeka 5 Star GP Red Star Block: Konami vs Starlight Kid 5 Star GP Red Star Block: Saya Kamitani vs Death Yama-san 5 Star GP Blue Star Block: Jungle Kyona vs Maika 5 Star GP Blue Star Block: Shuri vs Saya Iida 5 Star GP Blue Star Block: Momo Watanabe vs Utami Hayashishita Uploaded to Stardom World eventually Also Ice Ribbon (2pm JST) & Big Japan (5pm JST) & Ganbare (6pm JST) 13/9/2020, Sunday 12pm JST/4am BST/11pm EST/8pm PST Stardom 5 Star GP 2020 Nishitetsu Hall, Fukuoka Jungle Kyona & Riho vs Starlight Kid & Hanan Himeka vs Saki Kashima 5 Star GP Red Star Block: Mayu Iwatani vs Saya Kamitani 5 Star GP Red Star Block: Giulia vs Tam Nakano 5 Star GP Red Star Block: Konami vs Death Yama-san 5 Star GP Blue Star Block: Utami Hayashishita vs Maika 5 Star GP Blue Star Block: Natsuko Toura vs AZM 5 Star GP Blue Star Block: Momo Watanabe vs Saya Iida Uploaded to Stardom World eventually 1pm JST/5am BST/12am EST/9pm PST Tokyo Joshi Pro Fall Tour '20 Wrestling of My Mind Itabashi Green Hall, Tokyo Card TBA Live on Wrestle Universe 3pm JST/7am BST/2am EST/11pm PST Dragon Gate Storm Gate Edion Arena #2, Osaka Ultimo Dragon, Don Fujii & Dragon Kid vs Masaaki Mochizuki, Gamma & Punch Tominaga Genki Horiguchi & Susumu Yokosuka vs Keisuke Okuda & Jason Lee Shuji Kondo vs Kento Kobune Yosuke♡Santa Maria, Kota Minoura, U-T & Dragon Dia vs Kaito Ishida, Takashi Yoshida, Diamante & Kazma Sakamoto Naruki Doi & Yasushi Kanda vs Kzy & Ben-K Eita, Masato Yoshino & YAMATO vs BxB Hulk, Big R Shimizu & KAI Live on DG Network 4pm JST/8am BST/3am EST/12am PST Pro Wrestling NOAH The Revival Ishikawa Prefecture Industrial Hall #3, Kanazawa Daisuke Harada & YO-HEY vs Atsushi Kotoge & Hajime Ohara Mohamed Yone & Alexander Otsuka vs Kiya Okada & Seiya Morohashi Seiki Yoshioka vs Katsuhiko Nakajima Go Shiozaki, Kaito Kiyomiya & Shuhei Taniguchi vs Kongo (Kenoh, Masa Kitamiya & Yoshiki Inamura) Stinger (Yoshinari Ogawa, Kotaro Suzuki & HAYATA vs Kingo (Hao, Nio & Tadasuke) Sugiura-Gun (Takashi Sugiura, Kazushi Sakuraba & NOSAWA Rongai) vs M's Alliance (Naomichi Marufuji, Keiji Muto & Yuko Miyamoto Live on Wrestle Universe 5pm JST/9am BST/4am EST/1am PST All Japan Pro Wrestling Champion Carnival Cultz Kawasaki, Kanagawa Takao Omori vs Ryuki Honda Yoshitatsu Kingdom (Seigo Tachibana & Yusuke Okada) vs. JIN (Jake Lee & Fuminori Abe) Evolution (Hikaru Sato & Dan Tamura) vs. Purple Haze (Shigehiro Irie & Izanagi) Enfantes Terribles (Koji Doi & Yusuke Kodama) vs. Kento, Jiro, Akira & HAYATO's Big Adventure (Kento Miyahara & Francesco Akira) Ikuto Hidaka, Hokuto Omori, & Black Menso~re vs. Koji Iwamoto, TAJIRI, & Atsuki Aoyagi Champion Carnival A Block: Kuma Arashi vs Zeus Champion Carnival A Block: Suwama vs Jiro "Ikemen" Kuroshio Champion Carnival B Block: Shotaro Ashino vs Yuma Aoyagi Champion Carnival B Block: Shuji Ishikawa vs Yoshitatsu Live on AJPW TV 6pm JST/10am BST/5am EST/2am PST DDT Early Fall Itaba Series Itabashi Green Hall, Tokyo Akito Vs Kazuki Hirata HARASHIMA, Toru Owashi & Keigo Nakamura Vs Chris Brookes, Antonio Honda & Yukio Naya Danshoku Dieno Vs Hideki Okatani DAMNATION (Soma Takao & Mad Paulie) Vs Junretsu (Makoto Oishi & Mizuki Watase) Nautilus (Yuki Ueno & Naomi Yoshimura) vs Eruption (Kazusada Higuchi & Saki Akai) DAMNATION (Daisuke Sasaki & Tetsuya Endo) Vs ALL OUT! (Konosuke Takeshita & Shunma Katsumata) Live on Wrestle Universe Also Ice Ribbon (featuring a Tag Title match) (12pm JST), 2AW (2pm JST), JWP (4pm JST) & Wave (6:30pm JST) 14/9/2020, Monday Big Japan (featuring #1 Contender to the Strong title match) (6:30pm JST, airs on SamuraiTV on Sunday 20th), Seadlinnng (7pm JST) 15/9/2020, Tuesday 6:30pm JST/10:30am BST/5:30am EST/2:30am PST All Japan Pro Wrestling Champion Carnival Korakuen Hall, Tokyo Enfantes Terribles (Koji Doi & Yusuke Kodama) vs. Yoshitatsu Kingdom (Seigo Tachibana & Yusuke Okada) Shuji Ishikawa, Hikaru Sato, Dan Tamura, & Osamu Nishimura vs. Takao Omori, Black Menso~re, Masanobu Fuchi, & Ryuki Honda Purple Haze (Shigehiro Irie & Izanagi) vs. Enfantes Terribles (Kuma Arashi & Hokuto Omori) Ikuto Hidaka, Francesco Akira, & Rising HAYATO vs. Koji Iwamoto, TAJIRI, & Atsuki Aoyagi Champion Carnival A Block: Jiro “Ikemen” Kuroshio vs Zeus Champion Carnival A Block: Jake Lee vs. Suwama Champion Carnival B Block: Yoshitatsu vs. Yuma Aoyagi Champion Carnival B Block: Kento Miyahara vs. Shotaro Ashino Live on AJPW TV Also Big Japan/2AW show (7pm JST) 16/9/2020, Wednesday Actwres girlZ (6:45pm JST) & Ice Ribbon (7:30pm JST) 18/9/2020, Friday 6:30pm JST/10:30am BST/5:30am EST/2:30am PST Pro Wrestling NOAH N-1 Victory 2020 Opening Night Nagoya Convention Centre, Aichi Shuhei Taniguchi, Mohamed Yone & Kinya Okada vs Akitoshi Saito, Masao Inoue & Masashi Aoyagi Naomichi Marufuji & Atsushi Kotoge vs Sugiura-Gun (NOSAWA Rongai & Kaz Hayashi) N-1 B Block: Takashi Sugiura vs Yoshiki Inamura N-1 B Block: Kenoh vs Katsuhiko Nakajima N-1 A Block: Kaito Kiyomiya vs Masaaki Mochizuki N-1 A Block: Go Shiozaki vs Manabu Soya Also Wave (featuring Tag Title match) (6:30pm JST) & ZERO-1 (featuring HW title match) (7pm JST)
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# ? Sep 10, 2020 21:23 |
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Speaking of shows, the card for Dangerous Gate has been finalized https://twitter.com/DragonGateEN/status/1304005936038649862 Brave Gate is the opener because Ishida refuses to fight a "comedy jobber" like Maria anywhere other than the opener where she belongs.
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# ? Sep 10, 2020 23:53 |
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Holy crap, starting the N1 with Kenoh vs Nakajima. Spicy
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# ? Sep 11, 2020 06:06 |
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https://twitter.com/b3rt4/status/1304489474697711618?s=20 Oh my god NOAH what the gently caress are you thinking?
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# ? Sep 11, 2020 19:42 |
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Idk why Meltzer has labeled that as NOAH news, Mutoh is freelance.
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# ? Sep 11, 2020 22:45 |
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https://twitter.com/Hi5ame/status/1304634352714874880?s=20
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# ? Sep 12, 2020 05:16 |
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Takayama's recovery is amazingly great news.
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# ? Sep 12, 2020 06:11 |
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Well the first night of the Champion Carnival was very much just there. Main event had a garbage finish, was alright until then. the highlight of Lee vs Jiro was Jiro's entrance shenanigans, Suwama vs Arashi was good while it lasted but it didn't last. So flat.
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# ? Sep 12, 2020 12:07 |
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Yoshitatsu is out of today's show because of a back injury so Ishikawa gets 2 points. Also of note, Baliyan Akki from Gatoh Move has replaced Seigo Tachibana in the opening tag
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# ? Sep 13, 2020 09:10 |
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Starting to think Shuji Ishikawa may be a worse booker than Jun Akiyama.
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# ? Sep 13, 2020 11:32 |
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Wow did anyone know Dylan James was a creeper? https://twitter.com/b3rt4/status/1305186801586499589?s=19
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# ? Sep 13, 2020 18:24 |
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surprised all japan used him after all that like you’d think the poor behavior thing alone would be enough to get him blackballed
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# ? Sep 13, 2020 18:32 |
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he got fired from all japan pre shutdown for behavior but for a bar fight which seems obv far less serious than what happened before they started using him
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# ? Sep 13, 2020 18:55 |
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forkboy84 posted:Yoshitatsu is out of today's show because of a back injury so Ishikawa gets 2 points. Yoshitatsu seems to be really unlucky with those injuries, eh?
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# ? Sep 14, 2020 06:10 |
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Tomorrow's Champion Carnival card should be an improvement with Lee vs Suwama and Ashino vs Miyahara on the docket.
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# ? Sep 15, 2020 03:01 |
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forkboy84 posted:Tomorrow's Champion Carnival card should be an improvement with Lee vs Suwama and Ashino vs Miyahara on the docket. Well, they were both good matches (Kento vs Ashino was the match of the tour so far) but I'm going to moan about the booking. So if you've not seen the matches don't read past this. It was pointed out to me by a Voices of Wrestling review of the show that that's Ashino out now barring freak results (which would be terrible booking in their own right) & that's bonkers to me. He came in so hot & Enfants were positioned as a killer invading heel group during the lockdown shows they ran at 2AW Square. Ashino had a great title challenge against Suwama after being built up well & then after that he was on the losing side in all 4 multiman tags on the Summer Action Series tour. He went undefeated on the Summer Action Series II tour but this was beating Okada & Yoshitatsu before Yoshitatsu Kingdom had been formed, beating a Junior in Hikaru Sato, winning an 8 man tag against Black Menso~re & friends & a CC night 1 tag team win over Tamura & Sato, 2 Juniors. And then he passed out against Yuma Aoyagi & got pinned by Kento. Just seems a terrible waste. Obviously Ishikawa doesn't view Ashino as an important player but a) it's not like they are overcrowded with contenders in that company & b) the way he handled himself, admittedly with no fans present, gave the impression to me that he could be that. There was also Aoyagi's well received turn which after the title shot has just gone into nothing. There's been so little follow-up on things & I get it's a weird year but gently caress, it's bad booking. Right now it looks like Kento is going to win B Block & that's fine, understandable. But having Shotaro Ashino all-but-eliminated after 2 matches seems so counter-productive. In Block A, well, it's going to be Jake Lee or Zeus. Which would be a fine final, in isolation. But the way they've got there just makes little sense to me.
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# ? Sep 15, 2020 18:49 |
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# ? Jun 8, 2024 08:04 |
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Just for reference, all of the N1 will be available online and most of it will be free on Abema and all but two shows will be live https://twitter.com/itsmekeeganlee1/status/1306540407451521029?s=19
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# ? Sep 17, 2020 12:01 |