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Gaz-L posted:Wasn't Tatanka a case of 'brought him in for a nostalgia show, worked with Angle, Angle made him look great so hired because they didn't realise Kurt carried him'? Said match was actually against Eugene.
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Max Coveri posted:Said match was actually against Eugene.
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It was a match against Eugene Angle interfered in. Tatanka has never faced Angle.
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I never have ever eaten marijuana!
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There's also a pretty big gap between that match (Eugene vs. Tatanka with Angle interfering) on August 1, 2005 and his actual return to the company (a house show loop tagging with Shelton Benjamin December 27-30 2005, with a televised return at the Royal Rumble 2006 a month later).
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Wasn't Tatanka just super over because of nostalgia and they figured it must be because he's still got it?
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Aphrodite posted:Eugene Angle This would have been so much better than "Jason Jordan, Angle's son."
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Even so, on what loving planet does it make sense for him to suddenly be best friends with Matt Hardy? I think he was thirteen during Tatanka's first run. Oh goddamnit...
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It always shocks me to realize how far back the Hardys actually wrestled in WWF, so I had to look it up, and Matt Hardy and Tatanka did face off during Tatanka’s original run. https://youtu.be/iFIm58olAIU
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What was the deal with Christopher Daniel's fallen angel gimmick? Was he supposed to be a school shooter?
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fatherofmustard posted:What was the deal with Christopher Daniel's fallen angel gimmick? Was he supposed to be a school shooter? just a general goth gimmick. it was something he was doing on the indies starting around 1998, he'd drop it for wwf and wcw spots, and he was supposed to be the dark hooded figure vampiro served before wcw finally died. he was not one of the contracts picked up. he reprised this role more or less in ROH when he formed the prophecy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJk3i8_0R-g here's a 2001 tryout he had after the buzz from the king of the indies tournament in 2000 (not the famous one that would be the launching pad for roh later that year) STING 64 fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Sep 20, 2020 |
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JOHN CENA posted:just a general goth gimmick. it was something he was doing on the indies starting around 1998, he'd drop it for wwf and wcw spots, and he was supposed to be the dark hooded figure vampiro served before wcw finally died. he was not one of the contracts picked up. he reprised this role more or less in ROH when he formed the prophecy. Why is the commentary talking about Tajiri using an octopus when he's not in the match.
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Scoot Andrews was criminally underappreciated.
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fatherofmustard posted:Was he supposed to be a school shooter? Genuine lol Felt like a pretty standard cult leader sort of gimmick back in early ROH. I feel like it turned into "just sort of a guy" eventually though.
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fatherofmustard posted:What was the deal with Christopher Daniel's fallen angel gimmick? Was he supposed to be a school shooter? Originally it was more of a preacher/cult leader thing right down to wearing a Catholic priest's vestments.
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Eat My Fuc posted:Why is the commentary talking about Tajiri using an octopus when he's not in the match.
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The Berzerker posted:Genuine lol It definitely did. Daniels never came off as enough of an rear end in a top hat to make that gimmick work anyway.
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Does anyone here have experience buying from IVP Videos? I'm looking to buy the Big Egg Universe Bluray but the site is not secure per Chrome so i'm weary to put in my card information.
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davidbix posted:I was gonna say "they were probably beaming back some commentary touch ups," but then I realized it's WWE-sourced with the timecodes, not a satellite feed, so...I don't know? the audio is all sorts of hosed up, it syncs for a bit to the match and desynchs a cpl minutes later. thats a really cool clip tho. i love watching wrestling without commentary i really wish it were an option sometimes. like a fite.tv feed. e: i suppose it would lose its charm in the current times
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People have joked that Tatanka was accidentally hired when they wanted to reboot ECW and hire Masato Tanaka. Buffalo!
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Golden Bee posted:People have joked that Tatanka was accidentally hired when they wanted to reboot ECW and hire Masato Tanaka. If Laurinaitis was in charge of talent relations at the time it's possible
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You know times were tough when Tatanka of all people was getting a nostalgia pop.
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Hedgehog Pie posted:You know times were tough when Tatanka of all people was getting a nostalgia pop. Wait 20 years when Baron Corbin is brought back to battle Johnny Gargano.
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BrigadierSensible posted:Wait 20 years when Baron Corbin is brought back to battle Johnny Gargano. Baron Corbin's main roster debut was at Wrestlemania in 2016, so he's already lasted longer than Tatanka, and has consistently been booked stronger than Tatanka. I know he's generally lost most of his big matches and pretty much everyone thinks they sucked but he's main evented PPVs, won King of the Ring, won Money in the Bank, gotten world title shots, hell he main evented Smackdown two days ago, which is higher on the card than Tatanka ever was. Not that he (or Tatanka honestly) should have gotten big nostalgia pops, I guess my point is that as bad as the current shows are and as few people are watching them, there's at least Stuff to Remember about Baron Corbin, more than Tatanka. But again, if you're from a hot era, even if you didn't really do much in that era, you're going to get a bigger nostalgia pop than someone who got pushed relatively hard in a dead period. Hacksaw Jim Duggan and The Godfather would get bigger 'return pops' in a nostalgia battle royal than Carlito and Vladimir Kozlov.
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I think that was also the era of Road Warrior Animal at least a decade past his prime, Cool Motorcycle (actually abusive Chad) Guy Chuck Palumbo, Crossdressing Vito, Jimmy Wang Yang and the like. Smackdown...had some characters in that timeframe. ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 13:45 on Sep 20, 2020 |
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ChrisBTY posted:I think that was also the era of Road Warrior Animal at least a decade past his prime, Cool Motorcycle (actually abusive Chad) Guy Chuck Palumbo, Crossdressing Vito, Jimmy Wang Yang and the like. Smackdown...had some characters in that timeframe. The Mexicools - June 2005 to June 2006 Road Warrior Animal - July 2005 to May 2006 The Dicks - October 2005 to February 2006 Tatanka - December 2005 to January 2007 The Gymini - January 2006 to January 2007 Cross Dressing Vito - May 2006 to May 2007 Jimmy Wang Yang - August 2006 to April 2010 Abusive Mechanic Chuck Palumbo managed to miss most of this, as he was released shortly after debuting the gimmick in 2004, but got re-signed and made his re-debut in May 2007 which he where he was dating Michelle McCool. Also to really hammer home June 2005 as the start of some sort of Bad Era of Smackdown, that was the month that Muhammad Hassan got drafted from Raw over to Smackdown, where they almost immediately put him in a feud with Undertaker and gave him terrorist henchmen.
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I don't even know what The Gymini is.
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Hedgehog Pie posted:I don't even know what The Gymini is. ECW's Nova was doing a fitness instructor gimmick as Simon Dean and they were his tag team for some reason
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saffi faildotter posted:ECW's Nova was doing a fitness instructor gimmick as Simon Dean and they were his tag team for some reason Weren't The Gymini also TNA's The Johnsons? But not Smackdown's similarly named The Dicks?
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Tatanka had an odd sort of push where he was undefeated for a straight year after his debut, but still never beat anyone bigger than Rick Martel during that span
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DeathChicken posted:Tatanka had an odd sort of push where he was undefeated for a straight year after his debut, but still never beat anyone bigger than Rick Martel during that span Partky because their heel roster was largely either super protected guys like Yokozuna or guys at about Martel's level.
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It is bizarre that they never put the IC title on him at that time, though. I realise that was around the point where Hart, Hall and Michaels were the guys with that belt, but still.
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Ganso Bomb posted:Weren't The Gymini also TNA's The Johnsons? But not Smackdown's similarly named The Dicks? The Dicks were Chad Wicks and John Toland, who were inexplicably cast as brothers (Chad and Tank Toland) in OVW, and got promoted as Chad and James Dick, The Dicks for their brief run on the main roster. Chad Wicks actually competed in the Young Lions Cup in 2004, alongside TJP, Yoshitatsu, Taguchi, Goto, and some people I've barely heard of. He more or less retired after being cut from WWE. Tank Toland went to ROH after being released and was the heavy for Sweet 'n' Sour Inc. for part of 2008. He more or less retired after that, but one of his last indie matches was putting over a kid named Jon Moxley. One of his last OVW matches was beating someone named "Lumpy Magoo". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfEpy2mOA_U Here's a clip of Lumpy Magoo in action featuring a young Brad Maddox, a guy named Richard Cranium, and also Al Snow?? Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Sep 20, 2020 |
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Edge & Christian posted:There was a lot of overlap between some very bad stuff in 2005-2006 You can make it even worse: You left out 2008-2010's Kung Fu Naki.
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Edge & Christian posted:There was a lot of overlap between some very bad stuff in 2005-2006 how DARE you
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CarlCX posted:You can make it even worse: You left out 2008-2010's Kung Fu Naki. Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Sep 20, 2020 |
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Tank Toland doing a fitness bit while Bobby Dempsey was made to do constant squats was good heeling. I enjoyed the ROH Sweet & Sour Inc/International
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weirdly the hiring of the gymini caused matt bentley to receive a cease and desist from using the Michael Shane stage name
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DeathChicken posted:Tatanka had an odd sort of push where he was undefeated for a straight year after his debut, but still never beat anyone bigger than Rick Martel during that span If I recall correctly they burned his undefeated streak on Ludvig Borga too... which in retrospect didn't pay off
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JOHN CENA posted:weirdly the hiring of the gymini caused matt bentley to receive a cease and desist from using the Michael Shane stage name I'm weirdly resentful of that to this day. I have no idea why. I never even much liked him. I just really don't like calling him Matt Bentley or some reason. Even though... you know... its his name. I don't get it.
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