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SalTheBard
Jan 26, 2005

I forgot to post my food for USPOL Thanksgiving but that's okay too!

Fallen Rib

SalTheBard posted:

Hey I'm sorry to pop in this thread, a friend of mine has suddenly and inexplicably gone down the Qanon / Pizzagate rabbit hole and is now talking to me about time travel. Is there a good resource that I can give to her and say "Hey read this." She trusts me and she's worried that she is freaking out over Bill Gates causing COVID 19. I think I can get through to her (hopefully).

4 months later and she's like "Oh my god I can't believe I actually believed that stuff!" So just talking to her and being rational worked for at least one person!

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PerniciousKnid
Sep 13, 2006

SalTheBard posted:

4 months later and she's like "Oh my god I can't believe I actually believed that stuff!" So just talking to her and being rational worked for at least one person!

What did you actually say?

PhantomOfTheCopier
Aug 13, 2008

Pikabooze!

PerniciousKnid posted:

What did you actually say?
"I realize the world is a bit of a medical mess right now, but what are you, a loving moron?!" :clint:

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

quote:

Did you know?

Here are some interesting points to think about prior to 2020, especially to my friends on the fence, like moderate Democrats, Libertarians and Independents and the never Trump Republicans and those thinking of "walking away" from the Democratic party.

Women are upset at Trump’s naughty words -- they also bought 80 million copies of 50 Shades of Gray.

Not one feminist has defended Sarah Sanders. It seems women’s rights only matter if those women are liberal.

No Border Walls. No voter ID laws. Did you figure it out yet? But wait... there's more.

Chelsea Clinton got out of college and got a job at NBC that paid $900,000 per year. Her mom flies around the country speaking out about white privilege.

And just like that, they went from being against foreign interference in our elections to allowing non-citizens to vote in our elections.

President Trump’s wall costs less than the Obamacare website. Let that sink in, America.

We are one election away from open borders, socialism, gun confiscation, and full-term abortion nationally. We are fighting evil.

They sent more troops and armament to arrest Roger Stone than they sent to defend Benghazi.

60 years ago, Venezuela was 4th on the world economic freedom index. Today, they are 179th and their citizens are dying of starvation. In only 10 years, Venezuela was destroyed by democratic socialism.

Russia donated $0.00 to the Trump campaign. Russia donated $145,600,000 to the Clinton Foundation. But Trump was the one investigated!

Nancy Pelosi invited illegal aliens to the State of the Union. President Trump Invited victims of illegal aliens to the State of the Union. Let that sink in.

A socialist is basically a communist who doesn’t have the power to take everything from their citizens at gunpoint ... Yet!

How do you walk 3000 miles across Mexico without food or support and show up at our border 100 pounds overweight and with a cellphone?

Alexandria Ocasio Cortez wants to ban cars, ban planes, give out universal income and thinks socialism works. She calls Donald Trump crazy.

Bill Clinton paid $850,000 to Paula Jones To get her to go away. I don’t remember the FBI raiding his lawyer’s office.

I wake up every day and I am grateful that Hillary Clinton is not the president of the United States of America.

The same media that told me Hillary Clinton had a 95% chance of winning now tells me Trump’s approval ratings are low.

“The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”— Margaret Thatcher

Maxine Waters opposes voter ID laws; She thinks that they are racist. You need to have a photo ID to attend her town hall meetings.

President Trump said — "They’re not after me. They’re after you. I’m just in their way."

Read that again, then pass it along.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Medullah posted:

quote:

“The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”— Margaret Thatcher

tek79
Jun 16, 2008


Hillary Clinton tells you not to drink bleach, but she uses bleach to wash her clothes. THINK ABOUT THAT LIBAILURES!!!!!!!!

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

SalTheBard posted:

4 months later and she's like "Oh my god I can't believe I actually believed that stuff!" So just talking to her and being rational worked for at least one person!

Glad to hear that. Honestly i have a feeling Qanon is going to be going through that pretty hard as the conspiracy ramps up to justify everything and people start to catch on and drop off. Dollars to doughnuts there is going to be An Event tied to Qanon and that's going to be the nail in the coffin for all but the most batshit members, like with all cults.

SalTheBard
Jan 26, 2005

I forgot to post my food for USPOL Thanksgiving but that's okay too!

Fallen Rib

PhantomOfTheCopier posted:

"I realize the world is a bit of a medical mess right now, but what are you, a loving moron?!" :clint:

PerniciousKnid posted:

What did you actually say?

Phantom was pretty close. What I didn't realize from the start was that really her deal was more about SaveOurChildren than Q Anon. She didn't even really know what Q was outside of some of the basic stuff. I gave her some information about Q to read and digest, so after awhile she started to kind of calm down on the Bill Gates want to microchip us all with vaccines deal. I also would like to put it in context, my friend is an undocumented immigrant who is here on DACA and since she can't vote in elections she is really checked out politically and really doesn't have a lot of greater world experience. So a lot of what helped was to explain Fascism to her, why traditionally Jews have been persecuted (she made an anti-semetic comment, but I don't think she fully understood the context), and that yes, Child Trafficking is something that we should care about and do everything in our power to stop, but that liberals are holding children hostage to drink their blood and adrenchrome. Every time she found a new "thing" to question about I was able to gently guide her to the truth. Thankfully she trusts me and was able to connect a lot of pieces together on her own. The worst thing around has been the loving Epstein flight logs. I think with the Epstein what finally got through to her was me pointing out that Trump and Epstein were BFF's and that Trump callously made comments about Epsteins proclivities.

Dienes
Nov 4, 2009

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College Slice

CuddleCryptid posted:

Glad to hear that. Honestly i have a feeling Qanon is going to be going through that pretty hard as the conspiracy ramps up to justify everything and people start to catch on and drop off. Dollars to doughnuts there is going to be An Event tied to Qanon and that's going to be the nail in the coffin for all but the most batshit members, like with all cults.

You're really optimistic - Doomsday cults often get stronger when the apocalypse date passes and the doomsday doesn't come.

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

Dienes posted:

You're really optimistic - Doomsday cults often get stronger when the apocalypse date passes and the doomsday doesn't come.

Sure, the members that remain do. But a lot of people just say "well that was clearly bogus" and bounce.

I mean if you're talking full physical Jonestown commune city then yeah maybe, but a bunch of morons that are no more than an "unsubscribe" click away from getting out then that is a different case.

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real
So a friend of mine on Facebook reposted something from another friend that was clearly false, and I wanted to comment on it and lost the original post. So I navigate to the friend of a friend's page, and good lord.... I had to scroll through 87 posts within the past 24 hours. And then I kept scrolling... and scrolling... and it was like easily 100 posts every single day or just right wing garbage. Memes, misinformation, lies... I realized anything I posted would be a waste of time so I stopped.

But good god, if these people are reposting 100 things a day, they are exposed to probably 5x that every single day. These people are being brainwashed. I can see why you're angry about politics when that is your primary news source.

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum
Facebook spam like that has utterly broken discourse. So many of these people, even the loud bullying ones, are legitimately convinced that they're the ones that are 100% in the right. They aren't sharing inflammatory stuff because they know it's harmful...they legitimately think it's the truth.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

Dienes posted:

You're really optimistic - Doomsday cults often get stronger when the apocalypse date passes and the doomsday doesn't come.

Not...really. Then theyd never disband. The majority leaves and the remainder becomes more emboldened but frequently that loss in membership becomes unsustainable as they cant grab new people.

When Trump leaves office i think theyll say hes working from the shadows now or pick a new figurehead but I dont think either will keep most rank and file members interested.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
Oh, but the ones that stay in are gonna be something else... I'm legit worried.

DarkHorse
Dec 13, 2006

Vroom vroom, BEEP BEEP!
Nap Ghost
Try to guess what this was in response to





It was a post asking about the city canceling trick or treating for Halloween

Pththya-lyi
Nov 8, 2009

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020
People are wearing masks all alone in their cars! It can't be because taking the mask off just to put it back on again 5 minutes later when you get out of the car is a pain in the rear end, it must be because they're scared!

Tomberforce
May 30, 2006

Pththya-lyi posted:

People are wearing masks all alone in their cars! It can't be because taking the mask off just to put it back on again 5 minutes later when you get out of the car is a pain in the rear end, it must be because they're scared!

'People who wear masks are pathetically fear driven' says demographic who won't go to the shops without 3 M16's.

Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




Life must be so nice being so stupid.

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own

Invalid Validation posted:

Life must be so nice being so stupid.

Ignorance sure is bliss.

Dienes
Nov 4, 2009

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DarkHorse posted:

Try to guess what this was in response to

It was a post asking about the city canceling trick or treating for Halloween

I'm pleasantly surprised it didn't pivot to trying to sell you essential oils at the end.

Golbez
Oct 9, 2002

1 2 3!
If you want to take a shot at me get in line, line
1 2 3!
Baby, I've had all my shots and I'm fine
vuvuzela 2010

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Grimdude
Sep 25, 2006

It was a shame how he carried on
I'm no history buff, but something tells me socialism isn't the direct cause of any of those four pictures.

Dr Christmas
Apr 24, 2010

Berninating the one percent,
Berninating the Wall St.
Berninating all the people
In their high rise penthouses!
🔥😱🔥🔫👴🏻

Invalid Validation posted:

Life must be so nice being so stupid.

You get to believe that buying lunch at a certain fast food joint makes you a righteous crusader for all that is good!

tek79
Jun 16, 2008

Golbez posted:

vuvuzela 2010



Because capitalism has never starved anybody, right? If you told me the upper-left photo was Great Depression era I'd believe it. But, like another poster already said, I'd imagine there were significant other factors involved in these and since this is a TPUSA meme I wouldn't be surprised if any or all of these photos are completely out of context.

InsertPotPun
Apr 16, 2018

Pissy Bitch stan
the problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other people's money whereas in capitalism you run out of your own money but that will never affect me so :smuggo:

Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

🛑 Don't get your pen🖊️, son, you won't be 👌 needing that 😌. My 🥡 order's 💁 simple😉, a shitload 💩 of dim sims 🌯🀄. And I want a bucket 🪣 of soya sauce☕😋.

I love pointing out that she was so universally hated that “Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead” hit #2 on the singles chart in the UK the day she kicked the bucket.

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

InsertPotPun posted:

the problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other people's money whereas in capitalism you run out of your own money but that will never affect me so :smuggo:

In capitalism the goal is to take everyone else's money. This is a good thing because

letthereberock
Sep 4, 2004

InsertPotPun posted:

the problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other people's money whereas in capitalism you run out of your own money but that will never affect me so :smuggo:

The problem with capitalism is eventually someone wins.

sweart gliwere
Jul 5, 2005

better to die an evil wizard,
than to live as a grand one.
Pillbug

Taerkar posted:

In capitalism the goal is to take everyone else's money. This is a good thing because

Or just quote Trump bragging about using Other People's Money as often as possible as a matter of habit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1794&v=A0v-_2q1eoM

Trump's rally in Kenansville NC, September 2016 posted:

"We'll lead the project like it's called OPM, I do that all the time in business called Other People's Money. There's nothing like doing things with other people's money because it takes the risk, you get a good chunk of it and it takes the risk. We're going to do this in this case from a humanitarian standpoint, OPM, Other People's Money"
https://factba.se/transcript/donald-trump-speech-kenansville-nc-september-20-2016

sweart gliwere fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Sep 19, 2020

RabbitWizard
Oct 21, 2008

Muldoon

Golbez posted:

vuvuzela 2010



Uhm if you really cared about dignity why aren't you a time traveler with infinite food?

Kaiju Cage Match
Nov 5, 2012




Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS


what

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.

"Validate meeeee!"

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

Is that the official trucker color? Pale baby poo poo?

Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




Yes cause all they eat is microwave burritos and take speed pills to stay up.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire
Truckers do have a weird sense of entitlement but at least the job is more dangerous than say, being a cop.

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

Grimdude posted:

I'm no history buff, but something tells me socialism isn't the direct cause of any of those four pictures.

Even China accepts nowadays that the great leap forward was a mistake.
But those famines have starting and ending dates, unlike in capitalism where the famine is eternal and we run ads on TV trying to destigmitize our efforts to fight it because people are so afraid of EBT and SNAP.
Except Venezuela but their food shortages are in no small part to direct US meddling.

DarkHorse
Dec 13, 2006

Vroom vroom, BEEP BEEP!
Nap Ghost

RagnarokAngel posted:

Truckers do have a weird sense of entitlement but at least the job is more dangerous than say, being a cop.

They legit keep the country functioning moving all that freight and generally do an amazing job keeping their massive trucks out of accidents despite how much driving they do and with little margin for error. They deserve more gratitude and recognition than most people give them, and if any general strike was going to succeed a trucker strike would basically collapse the entire country. And yup, more truckers die on the job than police.

That said that image macro is idiotic

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
Everyone can have their own opinion & believe what they choose to believe. It’s America. Not everyone is the same. But I know I’m not alone in my beliefs that what is happening now is insanity. Mask up. Don’t gather. Hide in your house. Defund the police....

They say we are the silent majority. I’m not going to be. We get no air time. We don't burn things down or tear things up. We don’t hurt others. We go to work and support our families. We love America! We want to protect the unborn. We salute the flag, always. We sing when "The Star Spangled Banner" plays. We respect law enforcement, appreciate them and obey the law. We appreciate the military. We are the very backbone of this country. We believe all lives matter because that is what we learned from reading the Bible & watching our parents.

We treat everyone with respect no matter what color their skin is.

But they want us to be invisible! Let’s be heard! It’s time to start making some noise #SilentNoMore

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InsertPotPun
Apr 16, 2018

Pissy Bitch stan
"we quietly take whatever poo poo they shovel, that's the noble way!"

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