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Demonicpoodle posted:Reminds me of Ryuuou, really. The highly advanced version of it. He does. Big Mom/Kaido have been shown to just simply be impervious to hits unless you can use it, there's no reason to even think he wouldn't know how to use it if he's at a level like that.
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Asuron posted:He does. We don’t know Kaido’s whole story but there’s no reason not to believe that he’s not a freak of nature like Big Mom that only needed to learn armamant haki to keep up with the strongest guys around once he couldn’t coast on his innate abilities. As an aside, I really like that about One Piece; that even freaks of nature like Kaido and Linlin can’t just pull a Frieza and rely solely on their insane innate strength, and that by all accounts if you just train enough you become a freak of nature yourself like Zoro.
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Oct 12, 2020 06:20
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Lmfao imaging nanonmachines and squalo power white are style posts about kaidos blood alcohol level
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Oct 13, 2020 01:12
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Sober Kaido could solo big mom pirates!
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I get his point since big mom didn’t need ryou in WCI, and maybe whitebeard too in marineford (but at this point who knows if he was combining the two while wrecking everything). But instead of ‘them being so strong they don’t need it’ I think it’ll be “holy poo poo they’ve been barely trying all of new world and are on a tier of their own now that they’re trying” since everyone in one piece pulls the goku poo poo of only exerting what you need Oda’s been using the starvation/drunk states similar to how zoro would go through multiple arcs in some nerfed state before his bigger fights
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Oct 13, 2020 01:24
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This...this is a level BEYOND .11! This...is Blood Alcohol Level .19!
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Oct 13, 2020 01:25
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Vegeta what does the breathalyser say???
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Oct 13, 2020 01:26
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ryou is just the term the people of wano use for haki, it doesn't specifically refer to the "projected" haki we see luffy learning/mastering during the udon arc and afterwards.
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And THIS...IS BLOOD ALCOHOL LEVEL .30!!! *chugs everclear for five minutes straight while Majin Buu watches*
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We all thought Luffy would be the one to beat Kaido...but it turns out only Zoro could fulfill the legend and become the legendary Super Alcoholic God Super Alcoholic.
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tbp posted:ryou is just the term the people of wano use for haki, it doesn't specifically refer to the "projected" haki we see luffy learning/mastering during the udon arc and afterwards. No it’s def an advanced state of armament haki, just like how future sight is a bonus ability of observational haki. and I’m sure shanks has the conqueror version of whatever extra ability you can milk out and that’s why he’s as strong as he is
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tbp posted:ryou is just the term the people of wano use for haki, it doesn't specifically refer to the "projected" haki we see luffy learning/mastering during the udon arc and afterwards. We need to find a term to call it then as a fanbase because I've had this conversation so many times. :P Do we call it Projected Haki like you said? Advanced Armament? (which could technically be Katakuri's Block Mochi) Super Advanced? Also if Katakuri's Block Mochi was stated by him to be a level above Luffy's Armament, and demonstrably was, then there's no way a Yonkou Commander is the ceiling of Armament Haki, so we can fully expect Kaido, Big Mom, Shanks, and Blackbeard (and all of the admirals) to have even crazier hardening.
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tbp posted:ryou is just the term the people of wano use for haki, it doesn't specifically refer to the "projected" haki we see luffy learning/mastering during the udon arc and afterwards. this is one of those things i find kinda interesting about fiction: in real life, people kind of use real words in vaguer senses. in something like one piece, when you use a word like ryou in a casual, somewhat undefined sense or have multiple terms for the same thing, your fanbase will endlessly speculate on if its two different things or just like a nuance of the language in the work.
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euphemism posted:this is one of those things i find kinda interesting about fiction: in real life, people kind of use real words in vaguer senses. in something like one piece, when you use a word like ryou in a casual, somewhat undefined sense or have multiple terms for the same thing, your fanbase will endlessly speculate on if its two different things or just like a nuance of the language in the work. But that’s only because oda gave us so much reference of power systems connecting or building off one another. I’m sure there was a lot of reaching in the dark when enel was using mantra/lucci using hakai but everything always comes back in one piece and is rarely left to esoteric reasons Even stuff like Marie geoise/laugh tale were purposeful baits from oda and it’s fun to at least try to go on the little mental adventures before we find out the final puzzle pieces on the mystery set up. either ryou is or isn’t the whole concept of learned haki in wano but it’s my posting ambition to try finding the one truth (of many truths still up in the air)
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Oct 13, 2020 03:42
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I feel like this page is an important piece of the puzzle. Seems like Kaido calls what they're using Ryuo. 
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Demonicpoodle posted:I feel like this page is an important piece of the puzzle. Lpzie posted:amazing! oden put nanomachines in the wound twenty years ago just for this moment.
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Maybe joyboy taught wano this armament haki ability alongside the advanced seastone production?
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Oct 13, 2020 08:10
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Ryou will probably end up being not just a word for haki, but inherited will.
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Oct 13, 2020 14:24
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Speed translation is out! https://m.imgur.com/a/AnR23b8
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Oct 15, 2020 15:22
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yes YES YEEEES!
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You know, its probably not gonna go down that way but I’m pretty cool with the scabbards just outright handling Kaido, this feels pretty cathartic to watch the guys whose lives were ruined by the bad impossibly strong guy actually gently caress up the bad guy for once.
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Oct 15, 2020 15:59
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Murder Bullets is a hell of an attack name.
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Oct 15, 2020 16:41
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Gonna need the official trans on whatever Marco/Big Mom were saying, but the Scabbard fight was fuckin ayy
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Oct 15, 2020 16:46
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20 years of time...
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Oct 15, 2020 18:14
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its so nice to have a chapter
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Oct 15, 2020 18:33
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They've definitely achieved something. I can see them failing here, but Kaido has taken actual damage, and whenever Luffy busts everyone out in act four, he could inspire them to finally strike the killing blow (maybe if Luffy takes down Big Mom first?).
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Oct 15, 2020 18:57
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Oct 15, 2020 20:02
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One Piece is so cool y'all
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Actually teared up when they all assumed Oden's stance for the final attack. It's gonna be rough when Kaido fucks up the scabbards in the next issue.
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Given that we've progressed from poking a yonko and barely escaping to taking on two of them at once I'm very curious to see what oda pulls out for how Luffy is going to deal with either/both.
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Strelok604 posted:Given that we've progressed from poking a yonko and barely escaping to taking on two of them at once I'm very curious to see what oda pulls out for how Luffy is going to deal with either/both. I mean the Sanji rescue ended up going wildly off the rails and still ended with them fighting (and defeating) several of Big Mom's strongest generals, and physical confrontations with Big Mom herself. I still like Nami's line there where she says "if we were planning to fight we would have brought Zoro and the others", cause yeah, now they have the entire crew, plus the Scabbards, plus the Supernova alliance, plus all of the Minks in sulong form. Plus Luffy got some training and Zoro got a sick new sword. And I honestly still flash back to the SH Alliance saying "if you ever need us just yell and we'll come to your aid" is going to end with some of them showing up for some manner of last minute save.
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Super Rad posted:Actually teared up when they all assumed Oden's stance for the final attack. 
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Guy A. Person posted:I still like Nami's line there where she says "if we were planning to fight we would have brought Zoro and the others"  I think about this line a lot, because the implications are pretty big. I always thought it was referring to some event which would be the second half's equivalent to marineford, but it could be wano too maybe? who knows, but I'm certainly excited
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Yeah you kinda figure that's about what happens with the endgame, but knowing One Piece there will probably be some huge curveballs along the way
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This manga. This chapter. I don't recall there ever being a no-nonsense fight like this in One Piece? There's no smack talk, no comedic moments, almost no talking, just pure violence and anger. Even Luffy v Katakuri which was an absolute slugfest had back-and-forth banter. It feels like the manga has been holding back this level of raw fury for two decades and the payoff is vicious.
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Official translation is out early https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/one-piece-chapter-992/chapter/21372?action=read
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Really clears up some of that quick scanlation.
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Amazing. This is one of those moments I can't wait to see animated primarily for Black Maria's song transitioning into the fight. Passions run high indeed.
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