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Mecca-Benghazi posted:
no you're right about this, and the zou thing is neat to me too i think we can pretty safely guess there was some sort of "giant" or "big" race or something back during the void century. there's a lot of just.... oversized stuff in OP that dates back to then, with oars, zou, the big rear end hat, etc. its also probable that the kozukis, who made the ponegliffs and then shut themselves inside of wano for hundreds of years are remnants of the ancient kingdom or something along those lines, but the details are a bit hard to fill in given what we know right now
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Rohan Kishibe posted:I think also the four boys were modified in the womb, though it didn't take with Sanji because of his mother, but I.. think Reiju was modified after she was already born? She still has all her emotions I think, though she also can't disobey her father? It's a little unclear. I believe this is correct, and in addition she still retains her morality as a result as well.
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I wonder if it will somehow explain how some "regular" people are still ginormously tall; maybe we've just been taking for granted that it's just a normal thing?
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Oct 26, 2020 08:23
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it's a power level thing
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KittenofDoom posted:I wonder if it will somehow explain how some "regular" people are still ginormously tall; maybe we've just been taking for granted that it's just a normal thing? I know the actual answer is “it looks cool, especially when Luffy/Zoro beat the poo poo out of guys that are super big” but I kinda just assume the actual answer is that they’re like 1/32 giant. Or fishman/merpeople, a lot of them are really big too but it makes more sense for a giant goldfish merlady to be huge. Heck, some people could have trace elephant mink blood or whatever.
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Oct 26, 2020 10:22
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Everyone knows that humans are just hairless ape minks anyway.
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Oct 26, 2020 11:10
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Nah people just randomly big in one piece. See just big Mom and her kids being all kinds of sizes. Lola and Chiffon are 'regular' sized despite their parents. And a reminder that giants are huge and have just as much variance. Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 12:14 on Oct 26, 2020 |
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Oct 26, 2020 11:28
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I genuinely think Oda just wanted to create a wacky fun world where just about any kind of character you can imagine might exist, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was an actual well-thought-out explanation.
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Oct 26, 2020 11:34
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Libra posted:I genuinely think Oda just wanted to create a wacky fun world where just about any kind of character you can imagine might exist, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was an actual well-thought-out explanation. Tbh the actual answer to any weird thing* in One Piece is pretty much just that but for all the “ODA...DOES IT AGAIN!!??” memes at this point it really wouldn’t surprise me if he either actually had an explanation for it or decided it would be cool to explore, since gently caress, One Piece is the man’s magnum opus. *Santoryu aside, I think he’s outright admitted that he couldn’t think of anything to make a sword guy stand out besides three swords before realizing that “guy with swords that can bench press a small mountain” counts as one.
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Oct 26, 2020 13:06
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Yeah I mean, Kiku is tall looking so to speak then you look it up and she's 9.5' so it's all relative I guess.
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KittenofDoom posted:I wonder if it will somehow explain how some "regular" people are still ginormously tall; maybe we've just been taking for granted that it's just a normal thing? We'll get a game several years after the series ends that explains that they're taking drugs to make them tall and it's a fad thing.
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Oct 26, 2020 14:11
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All the weird species are because the entire world is a genetic experiment; D stands for DNA.
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Oct 26, 2020 15:04
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KittenofDoom posted:I wonder if it will somehow explain how some "regular" people are still ginormously tall; maybe we've just been taking for granted that it's just a normal thing?
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LostRook posted:All the weird species are because the entire world is a genetic experiment; D stands for DNA. I halfway entertained this idea once, and that the Devil Fruits are some sort of lingering part of some plot during the void century to make a world-conquering army, but that whatever happened back then also changed Humanity from a five-to-six foot average to being all the various humans, giants, and minks we see. Then I thought "Man that's uncomfortably close to eugenics!" and I kinda hope that's not the case. I love Oda and how he can handle a lot of difficult subjects, but eugenics would be a topic I'd worry about. i am tim! fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Oct 26, 2020 |
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i think if oda can make people like caesar clown, a man who literally abducted children to perform mengele experiments on them for big cash money and a sick sense of fun, into a character people like to see and were glad to have around the straw hats for such an extended period of time, then he can thread the "800 years ago the government did a mass experiment but kinda screwed it up" needle.
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Oct 26, 2020 16:17
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Super tall people in One Piece are like that because they train their Tall Muscles.
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Oct 26, 2020 16:20
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The secret is people never stop growing. Its why Luffy is 5'8, his Dad's 9'5 and his Grandpa's 10'5
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Kild posted:The secret is people never stop growing. Its why Luffy is 5'8, his Dad's 9'5 and his Grandpa's 10'5 By that logic Dr. Kureha should be three times taller than she is
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Oct 26, 2020 16:47
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Or maybe she is a Tontatta
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Oct 26, 2020 16:48
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Kureha's just so youthful for her age.
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Oct 26, 2020 16:59
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Giant genes are reccessive. I feel like that would explain most of it. You're not going to be big just because your parents were big, and smaller parents can have big kids, like Big Mom. I feel like big people and giant genetics are actually kind of relevant to Big Mom's motivations in general. It can be assumed that Pound was Big Mom's husband in an attempt to make giant babies. Because the genetics are actually much more complicated, it didn't work and Pound was thrown aside.
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i am tim! posted:I halfway entertained this idea once, and that the Devil Fruits are some sort of lingering part of some plot during the void century to make a world-conquering army, but that whatever happened back then also changed Humanity from a five-to-six foot average to being all the various humans, giants, and minks we see. Eugenics, genetics and adjacent topics have popped up frequently since the second half started. There was the whole spiel about fishmen/mermaid genetics and blood transfusion in Fishman Island, everything on Punk Hazard, Whole Cake introduced Judge and more Lineage factor stuff. There's also more indirect stuff, like how the existence of Zou and the minks resemblance to half-transformed Zoans. The design of the One Piece world brings to my mind Darwin traveling through the Galapagos with the Grand Line itself resembling the traditional Gu that frequents Japanese media on occasion.
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Also the amount at which the World Government wants whatever happened in the Void Century to stay hidden is so huge that it must have been something quite bad with implications to the present day, you'd assume. It's something way more than just the ancient weapons
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Oct 26, 2020 21:23
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I really like that in Whole Cake Island, Big Mom has this personal connection and enmity with, I think, every single member of the Strawhats. A lot of the time, the villain only ever really talks to or even knows one or two of the crew. I also just made the connection that maybe the reason Zeus is such a slave to his appetite has something to do with literally being made of Big Mom's soul.
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Rohan Kishibe posted:I really like that in Whole Cake Island, Big Mom has this personal connection and enmity with, I think, every single member of the Strawhats. A lot of the time, the villain only ever really talks to or even knows one or two of the crew. If oda put that much thought into her character design (and I'm not saying he didn't) , what does that say about Prometheus? 
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The people in one piece are tall because it looks cool when luffy punches somebody bigger than him
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Rohan Kishibe posted:I really like that in Whole Cake Island, Big Mom has this personal connection and enmity with, I think, every single member of the Strawhats. A lot of the time, the villain only ever really talks to or even knows one or two of the crew. What is her connection with Robin or Zoro?
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I think Rohan means every member of the Straw Hats in Whole Cake Island at the time (Luffy, Sanji, Nami, Chopper, Brooke, Jinbe).
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TheLoneStar posted:Like others said, I doubt a real explanation will ever be made...but I like to imagine it means that somewhere, maybe centuries ago, those people have Giant ancestry. Even just a drop or two of Giant blood can make people ten feet tall.
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No Wave posted:Consider.... the physics of this. Big Mom has a tontatta daughter. Try not to think too hard about this.
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Libra posted:Big Mom has a tontatta daughter. Baby Shirahoshi was already far bigger than her brothers. Consider that with Otohime being regular sized.
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Wild speculation time: The secret history of the world is everyone used to be massive, but the world was getting overcrowded so the WG genetically engineered people to be smaller, and rearranged the landmasses to better control the population or something. As this was forced on most people, there was a lot of conflict. The different races of folks are the results of dozens of simultaneous attempts at creating the smaller species, but only a few worked or survived to the current day. Devil fruits are an offshoot of these experiments. The big hat belongs to Joyboy or someone of similar status, who helped make peace between the commoners and the World Government in exchange for certain promises (which they broke). Alternate theory: Something similar to the above, but the Celestial Dragons were from another planet which is the real reason they wear space helmets (despite not needing them any more).
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I can see Celestial Dragons being space people that subjected the earth to a hundred year war in a hostile takeover. Assuming the proto-Celestials were stupid loving strong on top of their advanced weaponry and their descendants just grew fat and weak from opulence. Presumably the Navy who have some understanding of the truth probably just go along with it because it had such a staggering impact on the world that they don’t think it’s worth the collateral damage to everyone, including every currently enslaved race. That’s assuming the celestials have some of their busted hypothetical space tech around.
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Maybe that's why the ancient weapons are so strong, they're like spaceship technology
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i was pretty sure the secret history of the world is how it went from 1 king to a confederacy of world nobles
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wild speculation: the throwaway line about the myth of why you can't have two devil fruits ("because the devils inside them fight in your body and you die"), the fact that they're called devil fruits, the existence of the davy back fight and that it's called that (davy jones is the devil of the sea), the fact that the davy back fight tradition is attributed to the place that Blackbeard currently uses as his base of operations, and the fact that Blackbeard is apparently the only person who knows the secret to manipulating devil fruit powers are all connected, somehow Plutonis posted:Baby Shirahoshi was already far bigger than her brothers. Consider that with Otohime being regular sized. to be fair merfolk/fish-men probably lay eggs
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No Wave posted:Consider.... the physics of this.
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Oct 27, 2020 09:37
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What if the reason vegapunk is able to make such advanced stuff is because he got clued in to some of their secret space tech and that's also why nobody knows anything about him
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If they are spacemen that's going to be the perfect reason for Enel to storm in.
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Nessus posted:If they are spacemen that's going to be the perfect reason for Enel to storm in. God if it isn't Gin with you people it's Eneru.
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