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Cat Machine posted:???? Where was this stated? We haven’t even had confirmation that Kaido has eaten a devil fruit. Occam's razor?
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The data books and magazines have made a specific point of not mentioning that Kaido has a devil fruit (his Vivre Card entry doesn’t even have a “devil fruit” field), which leads me to believe there’s something else going on with him.
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Nov 3, 2020 15:28
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invoking paulie's law
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Nov 3, 2020 15:29
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When will we finally get his hybrid form
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Nov 3, 2020 15:34
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Kaido's dragon form is actually just a big puppet which he projects his haki into. He's gotten really skilled at ventriloquism, but the most impressive thing is how he manages to hide it when not in use (and vice versa).
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Nov 3, 2020 15:57
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Cat Machine posted:The data books and magazines have made a specific point of not mentioning that Kaido has a devil fruit (his Vivre Card entry doesn’t even have a “devil fruit” field), which leads me to believe there’s something else going on with him. yeah, this: it's been way too long for them to purposefully obscure what his devil fruit is or if he even has a devil fruit for it to be what it seems my long-held assumption was that kaido is a dragon that ate a human fruit, but I'm not sure if I believe that anymore because of yamato existing and uncomfortable subsequent questions about zoan fruits that I don't really want to ask myself
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Nov 3, 2020 16:13
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Yeah, I was pretty much certain that Kaido was just a dragon that ate the Human Human Fruit: Model Oni up until considering Yamato, which. Um. Yeah. Now I’m like 50% sure he’s a dragon.
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Nov 3, 2020 16:21
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wonder if yamato is big mom's kid or do we know gonna lol if oda pulls a tearjerk backstory based on yamatos mom for kaido's backstory
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Nov 3, 2020 16:21
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Weren’t there other fruits that took ages to confirm or no?
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Nov 3, 2020 16:21
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Like kid’s?
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Nov 3, 2020 16:22
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It could very well be a twist of some kind, like "dragon who ate the human fruit" has been popular but it could even be as simple as "there are multiple models for the dragon dragon fruit and they want to keep that secret". But in either case a human who turns into an animal or vice-versa has exactly one precedent in OP so it's silly to be like "wellll we don't know that he even has a devil fruit" because given the groundwork it's a 90% chance that he's just a guy who ate the dragon fruit and a 99% chance that even if there's a twist it still involves a devil fruit of one form or another
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Nov 3, 2020 16:42
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Guy A. Person posted:It could very well be a twist of some kind, like "dragon who ate the human fruit" has been popular but it could even be as simple as "there are multiple models for the dragon dragon fruit and they want to keep that secret". we already know there are multiple models of the dragon fruit since all the dinosaurs are dragons in one piece lol crackpot theory: the celestial dragons were LITERALLY dragons and they could turn into humans/big oni guys. kaido is a descendant of them or has that fruit.
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Nov 3, 2020 16:54
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EmmyOk posted:Like kid’s? Doflamingo.
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Nov 3, 2020 16:55
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euphemism posted:crackpot theory: the celestial dragons were LITERALLY dragons I've considered this, since they are apparently fascinated with dragons and Vegapunk was doing dragon-based research for them and created Momo's fruit. Did someone curse a race of evil dragons with Form of Schlub?
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Nov 3, 2020 17:01
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Funky Valentine posted:Doflamingo. Ah yeds though I think his was a bit vaguer as we mainly saw puppetry right? Hard to see a similar twist on K man
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Nov 3, 2020 17:06
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EmmyOk posted:Ah yeds though I think his was a bit vaguer as we mainly saw puppetry right? Hard to see a similar twist on K man I mean, really none of the Supernovas we met on Sabaody had their powers expressly called out as Devil Fruits until much later (Urouge was still under debate until the Vivre Card confirmed that he has a fruit.)
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Nov 3, 2020 17:10
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it took 400 chapters to find out drake wasn't a t rex, v disappointing revelation too
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Nov 3, 2020 18:13
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Please support poor Allosaurus, forever living in the shadow of T-Rex.
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Nov 3, 2020 18:19
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the allosaurus can support my dang boot, with its second place face !!
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Nov 3, 2020 18:25
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Pretty sure he always had three fingers from the first time he transformed so he wasn't a rex.
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Nov 3, 2020 18:25
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The allosaurus loving owns
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Nov 3, 2020 18:26
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Legit question: If Kaido's hobby is trying to kill himself, why doesn't he just jump into the ocean. If he's a devil fruit user he'd just sink and drown right? Or am I missing something?
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Nov 3, 2020 18:56
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i doubt he wants to die a slow boring death like that. he could chain himself up with seastone and starve himself to death just as easily. its probably a misinterpretation on our part that he wants to kill himself and more that he just wants to test the limits of his immortality
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Nov 3, 2020 19:01
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Bleck posted:yeah, this: it's been way too long for them to purposefully obscure what his devil fruit is or if he even has a devil fruit for it to be what it seems The secret origin of Minks revealed!
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Nov 3, 2020 19:05
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Rich Uncle Chet posted:Legit question: If Kaido's hobby is trying to kill himself, why doesn't he just jump into the ocean. If he's a devil fruit user he'd just sink and drown right? Or am I missing something? I think this chapter, while translations weren't perfect, elucidated exactly why Kaido doesn't just do that. He wants a glorious death that will cement his place in history across the entire world, exactly as Roger and Whitebeard did. This further contextualizes what he said when he first heard of Whitebeard's death, "So you've finally gone and done it" or something like that. At first, we thought that it was just he finally gone and died just as Kaido wanted to. But now it's evident that he finally went and cemented his death for the entire world to witness and behold. This would explain why he was stockpiling tons of smiles to start a gigantic world war, theoretically in attempt to either conquer everything or die in a blaze of glory. Admittedly, this doesn't exactly explain why Kaido's introduction had him jumping off a sky island in an attempted suicide, but I guess that's also a pretty metal way of going too so whatever.
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Nov 3, 2020 19:09
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Funky Valentine posted:I mean, really none of the Supernovas we met on Sabaody had their powers expressly called out as Devil Fruits until much later (Urouge was still under debate until the Vivre Card confirmed that he has a fruit.) You would think Apoo's fruit would have been revealed when Killer was directly explaining it, but Oda doesn't seem like he enjoys dropping fruit names unless he's explicitly ready to do so. Not sure why that's the case. We may never get names for the Impel Down Jailer Beasts Devil Fruits for example.
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Nov 3, 2020 19:21
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Please forgive my ignorance: Didn't Chopper eat the Human Human fruit?
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Nov 3, 2020 19:35
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XkyRauh posted:Please forgive my ignorance: Didn't Chopper eat the Human Human fruit? He did, but Zoan fruits can come in different "models". For example, Sengoku ate the human human fruit model Buddha
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Nov 3, 2020 19:38
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XkyRauh posted:Please forgive my ignorance: Didn't Chopper eat the Human Human fruit? he ate A human human fruit. there are others including the one the former fleet admiral guy ate that was model buddha or whatever
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Nov 3, 2020 19:38
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you, a pea brain: waiting impatiently for the revelations inherent to laugh tale, the void century, the will of d, the one piece itself me, a transdimensional omniscience: waiting impatiently for the retail release of the full-color illustrated encyclopedia of devil fruits
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Nov 3, 2020 19:50
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I think that theory is human human model oni
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Nov 3, 2020 20:28
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With the reveal of Yamato + the whole Momo thing, I'm now practically certain it's a Dragon Dragon Fruit Model: That's not a pokemon, that's a fuckin, that's a chinese myth dragon
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Nov 3, 2020 21:31
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something funky is going on with the horns and onigashima and kaido and yamato and oars and i want some dang answers though!!
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Nov 3, 2020 22:04
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Black Maria has the same horns too and she’s big as hell!!
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Nov 3, 2020 22:15
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tbp posted:something funky is going on with the horns and onigashima and kaido and yamato and oars and i want some dang answers though!! e: also remember the island isn’t actually called Onigashima... The Beast Pirates gave it that name. INTERESTING
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Nov 3, 2020 22:33
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tbp posted:something funky is going on with the horns and onigashima and kaido and yamato and oars and i want some dang answers though!! and the guy in blackbeard's crew
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Nov 3, 2020 23:04
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Yamato has kaido's horns which means that they're a genetic trait and therefore not given via a fruit Or maybe it's just visual shorthand to show yamato's lineage but that's no fun
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Nov 3, 2020 23:30
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Have any of you ever met a sad drunk? Kaido was just trying to end the sadness, and then got undrunk when he fell on Kidd etc.
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Nov 4, 2020 00:14
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I thought he only jumped to help Apoo beat up Kidd and Hawkins
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RuBisCO posted:I think this chapter, while translations weren't perfect, elucidated exactly why Kaido doesn't just do that. He wants a glorious death that will cement his place in history across the entire world, exactly as Roger and Whitebeard did. This is great info,thank you!
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