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No Safe Word posted:Well turns out even the 5.5M was still not the real ceiling. Since he's at over 5.7M with only 94% reporting. A surge in turnout leading to an overwhelming numerical defeat bodes really ill for Texas.
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Where the gently caress is this growth in Trump voters coming from? There can't be that many people looking at the last four years and saying "yeah you convinced me give me more."
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Nov 4, 2020 09:10
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I think 2016 had muted turnout on both sides and 2020 reversed that? Maybe?
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Nov 4, 2020 09:11
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Number_6 posted:Where the gently caress is this growth in Trump voters coming from? There can't be that many people looking at the last four years and saying "yeah you convinced me give me more." 
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Nov 4, 2020 09:38
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Number_6 posted:Where the gently caress is this growth in Trump voters coming from? There can't be that many people looking at the last four years and saying "yeah you convinced me give me more." jokes posted:I think 2016 had muted turnout on both sides and 2020 reversed that? Maybe? This post, and also that if politics has regressed to a fight over cultural affect then the dems are pretty much boned. They're a party of corporate pr drones, every backbiting boss you've ever had, and complete loser rear end rich people. That's not a culture most people identify with so you're basically just down to trying to discipline your base via fear; Except the Republicans already loving do that too. But it makes them all several shitloads of money so loving yolo I guess. Anything to keep your taxes low and the plebes from thinking you might do anything to help them. Maybe we'll run Crenshaw for Texas Senate as a dem one of these days and we can be shocked when voters reject the guy who sucked at war for an actual sincere fascist who at least acknowledges that america sucks poo poo to live in for like 85% of the people here Marxalot fucked around with this message at 09:41 on Nov 4, 2020 |
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Nov 4, 2020 09:38
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remember when black people took the blame for the failure of prop 8 in california in 2008? get ready for a lot of hot takes about minorities
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Nov 4, 2020 09:40
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Marxalot posted:an actual sincere fascist. https://twitter.com/CawthornforNC/status/1323813315169165313
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i say swears online posted:remember when black people took the blame for the failure of prop 8 in california in 2008? get ready for a lot of hot takes about minorities Countdown until we get something in the nyt that can be summed up as "Biden would have flipped Texas if those ignorant mexicans understood what was good for them" I give it a month, assuming he loses. Year if he wins
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Nov 4, 2020 09:43
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"I really don't like him, but he's better than the other guy at least" applies to conservatives just as much as it applies to progressives
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Wow I was wrong, gently caress me 5.8 million votes for trump??? I haven't seen the numbers but it looks like Trump got a big portion of latino vote? Kind of not surprising given how hard every latino church was branding Biden as some sort of baby genociding satanist and the crickets from the national party on outreach. Biden seems like he's goimg to get a squeaker of a win as of 4am. Assuming a 6-3 scotus doesn't give Trump the election by invalidating mail in votes or whatever, which is now on the table. Assuming Biden limps into the white house, it would be a pyhrric victory for the Democrats. Their great geriatric hope won't have a mandate and it looks like the senate will still be Republican. 4 years of unmitigated disaster and a pandemic should have made this a cake walk, this is a massive repudiation of the Democratic party establishment. Also speaking of poo poo thats hosed, what the gently caress happened with the polls? Fool me twice... gently caress you forever.
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Nov 4, 2020 11:48
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Well clearly the issue was that we were not moderate lanyards enough to pick up +2 Republicans for each of the -1 Ds we shed by refusing to engage the base on anything they wanted. We must triple down next time. e: looks like Harris county local stuff held basically blue which is good. Dameius fucked around with this message at 12:16 on Nov 4, 2020 |
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Nov 4, 2020 12:12
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So far it looks like Hegar got bodied worse than Biden lmaoNumlock posted:Wow I was wrong, gently caress me 5.8 million votes for trump??? Political candidate polling, when it's not just some blatant "Trump +10 California!!! MAGA!!!" outfit, is at best semi-scientific augury based on who you think is going to vote and how you think you can most effectively contact them. And we're not even talking about
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latino outreach going well for the dems i see
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Nov 4, 2020 14:31
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Sir Tonk posted:latino outreach going well for the dems i see Liberal pundits in the aftermath of this when trying to figure out how the democrats gained old white people and white professionals and lost ground with literally everyone else, losing a potential TX win: https://twitter.com/dril/status/841892608788041732?s=20 (who am I kidding, contra supporting Ana Navarro is already blaming democratic socialists) biceps crimes fucked around with this message at 14:47 on Nov 4, 2020 |
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Nov 4, 2020 14:40
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aight texas let's get wonky i posit that the very clear shift in the hill country relative to the rest of the state has to do with the significant lutheran and methodist tradition of the area and almost devoid of southern baptist churches
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Nov 4, 2020 14:58
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Jiro posted:Vicente Gonzales BARELY scraped by the Republican challenger, holy loving poo poo. I saw that, yeah. It's a sea change in the Valley and I doubt that the decades-long hold that the Democratic party has here will last much longer. Honestly speaking, the Democratic party needs to stop assuming that their core demographic will always side with them and do some loving real canvassing for a change.
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Nov 4, 2020 15:16
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Hidalgo County is in real big loving trouble about going red next time.
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Nov 4, 2020 15:22
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I think the short version is a lot of people are running scared, and the GOP are experts at manipulating that
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Nov 4, 2020 15:24
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IT BURNS posted:I saw that, yeah. It's a sea change in the Valley and I doubt that the decades-long hold that the Democratic party has here will last much longer. Honestly speaking, the Democratic party needs to stop assuming that their core demographic will always side with them and do some loving real canvassing for a change. Eventually when you take people for granted long enough while actively working against their every loving interest, they get sick of the poo poo.
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Nov 4, 2020 15:28
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Dameius posted:Yeah but have you considered the fact that that owe them their vote because Dems are not (publicly) racist to them? They're poor BIPOC though, don't they understand intersectionality?
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Nov 4, 2020 15:29
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i cant believe biden hiring ana loving navarro to do latino outreach didnt pay off
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Nov 4, 2020 15:29
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Sir Tonk posted:i cant believe biden hiring ana loving navarro to do latino outreach didnt pay off "actually gusano is a term of endearment, they love me"
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Nov 4, 2020 15:31
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Sir Tonk posted:i cant believe biden hiring ana loving navarro to do latino outreach didnt pay off Who could have predicted that reactionary capitalists who fled Cuba aren't in the same group as people in the RGV??
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Nov 4, 2020 15:32
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So Mass Incarceration and Troop Mom Bikers won't carry the day with minority and youth voters. Who could have seen that coming.
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Nov 4, 2020 15:34
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maybe if they ran someone who wasn't in power 30 fuckin years ago they wouldn't have to worry about the poo poo they did 30 years ago maybe someone under 70 years old??
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Nov 4, 2020 15:36
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Oh god it's already time for every poo poo eating right wing dem who would be openly a republican if it wouldn't embarrass them at parties to do that thing they do again https://twitter.com/sarahcisternas7/status/1323872509242957824?s=20
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gay_crimes posted:Who could have predicted that reactionary capitalists who fled Cuba aren't in the same group as people in the RGV?? They are in the same group as the Valley, if you're just going by who they voted for.
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Hegar should have spent more time kick flipping her way across the state's Whataburgers instead of boomer cruising on her bike.
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I wonder if BLM has activated some of the Latinx vote against the left. Over the years I've gathered from a few Latinx friends that their parents and extended families back in the old country are very openly racist towards Blacks. If Latinx folks went from barely voting to jumping up to vote against BLM, ... I don't know, just conjecture based on anecdotal evidence.
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Nov 4, 2020 15:44
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saintonan posted:They are in the same group as the Valley, if you're just going by who they voted for. Certainly after a completely botched 2020 campaign approach to hispanic outreach. Comparing the results to 2016 shows an absolute slaughter in the RGV.
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Nov 4, 2020 15:44
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Water Resistant posted:AP just called TX21 for Chip Roy. My racist xenophobic rear end in a top hat rep will return for another 2 years. "Wendy Davis lost, therefore abandoning centrism is not the answer" is really baffling.
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Rolabi Wizenard posted:I wonder if BLM has activated some of the Latinx vote against the left. Over the years I've gathered from a few Latinx friends that their parents and extended families back in the old country are very openly racist towards Blacks. If Latinx folks went from barely voting to jumping up to vote against BLM, ... 
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Nov 4, 2020 16:22
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I think it's probably a lovely take. I would love to find out, eventually, what drove the huge rightward move.
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Nov 4, 2020 16:27
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Understanding the shifts that made last night happen will take a while to unpack, but that doesn't mean we should immediately discount even "lovely" takes or explanations. But also not hold them in high regard either... yet.
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Nov 4, 2020 16:37
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Rolabi Wizenard posted:I think it's probably a lovely take. I would love to find out, eventually, what drove the huge rightward move. Hispanic populations are way more conservative than people think. More people voted this cycle. That's really it. It's also why the dream of a blue Texas due to population changes is misguided. It's not going to drive as many D votes as wonks imagine and it's only going to get worse in about 25 years as the hispanic population is white-integrated just like italians.
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Nov 4, 2020 16:55
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If Americans are good at anything, it's voting against our own self interest.
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wtf happened to the blue wave two years ago wtf happened last night gently caress this country it deserves everything it's been sowing forever now
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