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Has anyone read Flesh and Steel, and does it hold a candle to Bloodlines?
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abrosheen posted:Has anyone read Flesh and Steel, and does it hold a candle to Bloodlines? It's ok, but not on Bloodlines level. If you like Mechanicus it has good stuff in there, including a visit to where they turn people into servitors. It's the weakest of the crime releases so far, but they've all been high quality while this one is middle of the road warhams. That being said I am really digging the crimes setting as it is refreshing after all the space marine bolter porn and for that reason alone I would recommend it. If you want more crimes and haven't picked up No Good Men, the anthology, I would suggest that over Flesh and Steel though. Excellent collection of short stories.
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Nov 10, 2020 04:32
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Just finished the first Night Lords book and it's good as hell. ADB is sensational at writing action, the final scenes with the Night Lords fighting the Blood Angels, especially the two Dreadnoughts was just incredibly gnarly and grizzled. He even manages to make ship-to-ship battles interesting which I usually just glaze over. My only complaint is that it kind of just... ended, with no real resolution to anything except the part I spoilered earlier, but they didn't even show up until most of the way through the book. I guess that's why it's a trilogy 
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Nov 10, 2020 04:37
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Speaking of Bloodlines, I just finished listening to the audiobook. It's a great listen. Dunno about the Irish Cop, but the rest of the voices worked well. I will say that..(speculation about mysteries in the setting follow:) Zidarov has a scar he can't remember getting that still hurts however long since he got it and he's adamant that Genestealers don't exist, oh and there's Xenos trouble on the warp lanes, and there's a massive push to recruit new Guardsmen in the subsector. He's Genestealer implant victim, and there's a Hive Fleet en route. There's presumably fighting one or two subsectors over at this point. Since we don't know when he got implanted, it could easily have been relatively recently, as in after Naxy was born. It would not surprise me if the "Serpent Rises" cult is contaminated by Genestealers, probably infiltrating an existing pre-Imperial religion that was already present. Notice that except for the female cop who's his contact, Zidarov mostly interacts with his fellow cult members concealed behind masks and bulky robes....making it easy for some of those masked cultist to be hiding 2nd or 3rd generation Genestealer signs. I suspect that he's subconsciously waiting until he can recruit Melijah (sp? I only heard the name) into the cult before they have another child. I hope the setting continues long enough for me to find out if I'm right or not.
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Nov 10, 2020 08:10
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NUMBER 1 FULCI FAN posted:My only complaint is that it kind of just... ended, with no real resolution to anything except the part I spoilered earlier, but they didn't even show up until most of the way through the book. I guess that's why it's a trilogy That's kind of the Night Lord thing. When things go south or look particularly risky, they gently caress off and run away. They don't do heroic victories or defiant last stands. The books are still fantastic and worth reading, but they're fringe scavengers and survivors, not heroes.
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Nov 10, 2020 09:34
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Is there any lore aboit Sanguinius' body? like, is there a crypt somewhere on Terra with some well bored spacemarines guarding it?
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Nov 10, 2020 12:12
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They put him in a giant golden tomb on Baal.
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Nov 10, 2020 12:40
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Guyver posted:They put him in a giant golden tomb on Baal. Oh, weird it was never mentioned in the Dante books that I remember. Speaking of, I think Guy Haley might be one of my favourite authors just for the fact that he seems to get picked to move the story ahead quite a lot.
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Nov 10, 2020 13:06
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Nuclear War posted:Is there any lore aboit Sanguinius' body? like, is there a crypt somewhere on Terra with some well bored spacemarines guarding it? Im pretty sure Dante talks to Sanguinius in the warp or something in devastation of baal.
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Nov 10, 2020 13:07
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Nuclear War posted:Oh, weird it was never mentioned in the Dante books that I remember. Speaking of, I think Guy Haley might be one of my favourite authors just for the fact that he seems to get picked to move the story ahead quite a lot. I think its from a Shallow book where a bunch of Baal mutants try to break in and eat bird boy.
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Nov 10, 2020 13:08
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Nuclear War posted:Oh, weird it was never mentioned in the Dante books that I remember. Speaking of, I think Guy Haley might be one of my favourite authors just for the fact that he seems to get picked to move the story ahead quite a lot. He's no Abnett or Wraight but he's competent, writes well within the bounds of the universe and he's machine-like in his output. I enjoyed his Baneblade series, Titandeath and the Great Work.
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Nov 10, 2020 13:09
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Also there is the Saniguinor or whatever which may or may not be Sanguinius.
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Nov 10, 2020 21:18
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Telsa Cola posted:Also there is the Saniguinor or whatever which may or may not be Sanguinius. There is also now a counterpart to the Sanguinor as of Darkness in the Blood. Apparently it has always been there but I believe is new to the lore.
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Nov 10, 2020 21:30
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Telsa Cola posted:Also there is the Saniguinor or whatever which may or may not be Sanguinius. I think the Sanguinor predates his death. There's definitely a lot of hints that Sanguinius' spirit exists within the warp.
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Nov 12, 2020 04:42
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And hungers for HERETIC BORGER
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Nov 12, 2020 06:15
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Ego-bot posted:I think the Sanguinor predates his death. There was a actual Space Marine who basically was his herald called the Sanguinor during the horus heresy but he was pretty much a bog standard marine, the crazy spirit poo poo and weird apperances is all new. Yeah I wouldn't doubt it, lots of primarchs do weird warp poo poo.
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Nov 12, 2020 07:28
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Telsa Cola posted:There was a actual Space Marine who basically was his herald called the Sanguinor during the horus heresy but he was pretty much a bog standard marine, the crazy spirit poo poo and weird apperances is all new. Darkness in the Blood sheds some light on all this.
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Nov 12, 2020 08:17
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If I just jump into Siege of Terra at Saturnine will I be  (or rather, "Will I be more than is my normal resting-state")?
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Nov 13, 2020 16:33
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There's a few characters it assumes you know but I think all of them are in the lead up to the siege so if you don't know them youre not going to get less confused reading the other three books. "Traitors made planet fall and poo poo is hosed" is really most of what you need to know. It's pretty accessable really.
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Nov 13, 2020 17:19
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Solar War and Lost and the Damned are good, I wouldn't skip them. The First Wall gets mixed reception. It certainly isn't on the level as the first two but I don't think it is as bad as some people do.
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Nov 13, 2020 17:26
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Between several descriptions of Abnett's description of the battle ITT and my learning it has Ollanius Pius makes me  af to read/listen to it.E: Also that Myrmidia-worship was apparently a thing, too?
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Nov 13, 2020 18:01
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I'm about 2/3 of the way through the audiobook of Avenging Son and man they should have had this book as the start of eighth edition to introduce the Primaris instead of the Dark Imperium stuff! In DI the Primaris are just space marines with better gear, but in AS you get a lot more about their origins and differences with the firstborn. It works so much better as an introduction!
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Nov 13, 2020 18:38
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jng2058 posted:I'm about 2/3 of the way through the audiobook of Avenging Son and man they should have had this book as the start of eighth edition to introduce the Primaris instead of the Dark Imperium stuff! In DI the Primaris are just space marines with better gear, but in AS you get a lot more about their origins and differences with the firstborn. It works so much better as an introduction! I very much agree. Avenging Son is a great book. The scribe errant story is one of my favorite in 40k. We need a full series about the Terran scribes/administratum.
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Nov 13, 2020 19:00
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I like the inquisitor vignette in Avenging son alot.
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Nov 13, 2020 20:54
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Read Dreams Of Unity earlier, starting Valdor now: I love pre-/peri-Unity stuff, at least until it's again time to become HYPE FOR CRIME?
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Nov 14, 2020 00:48
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Arbite posted:How are Guy Haley's Dante books? Dante and Baal are my favorite books about space marines along with brothers of the snake. Theyre pretty personable books that read fast and flesh out a lot about death world life in 40k and the payoff for reading to the end of baal is pretty emotional and cathartic which was unexpected to me. I like haley the most out of the black library ive read.
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Nov 14, 2020 01:46
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drat, Ravenor went on sale today and was only $60. I didn't bother checking out the Blood Bowl email this afternoon that announced its sale..
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Nov 14, 2020 23:14
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Azubah posted:drat, Ravenor went on sale today and was only $60. I didn't bother checking out the Blood Bowl email this afternoon that announced its sale.. Don't feel bad, by the time the email hit it was already sold out. You have to be on an refreshing if you ever want a popular LE. I got one. Also finally found a Carrion Throne and Solar War LE today to match my Emperor's Legion and finish my Siege of Terra LE set. I spent way too much on warhams today.
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Nov 15, 2020 06:24
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Considering trying an Audible free trial and I'm wondering if any of the 40k audio dramas are particularly good?
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Nov 15, 2020 15:09
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I know the goonhammer review and a couple of posters here absolutely adorned the Warhammer Crime one that came out a month ago or something.
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Nov 15, 2020 15:29
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Cooked Auto posted:I know the goonhammer review and a couple of posters here absolutely adorned the Warhammer Crime one that came out a month ago or something. Dredge Runners was good but Bloodlines was better, IMO. Not sure how it was in audio form though, I only read it dead-tree.
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Nov 15, 2020 16:17
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Bloodlines is an audio novel while Dredge Runners is an audio drama. Audio novels are just a reading of the book. Audi dramas are done like a play with just dialogue and sound effects. I can't enjoy an audio novel as I strongly prefer reading but audio dramas are cool and Dredge Runner is amazing.
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Nov 15, 2020 16:43
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This is true, and Dredge Runners is really really good, but also know that it's only 90 minutes long. Who did the reading on the audiobook of Bloodlines?
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Nov 15, 2020 17:02
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Schadenboner posted:This is true, and Dredge Runners is really really good, but also know that it's only 90 minutes long. Using audible credits on 90 minute audio dramas instead of 14 hour novels is a poor financial choice.
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Nov 15, 2020 17:05
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Bucnasti posted:Using audible credits on 90 minute audio dramas instead of 14 hour novels is a poor financial choice. I'm not trying to wrongfun anyone or anything but it's 11 bucks and each Audible credit costs the 15 bucks a month you spend for it so yeah, kinda?
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Nov 15, 2020 17:07
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Schadenboner posted:I'm not trying to wrongfun anyone or anything but it's 11 bucks and each Audible credit costs the 15 bucks a month you spend for it so yeah, kinda? Yeah Audible intentionally obfuscates the value of credits so you’ll waste them on cheap stuff. Use dollariedoos on short fiction and credits on the expensive stuff.
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Nov 15, 2020 17:30
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drat it I was busy getting married this weekend and missed the LE Ravenor!! Ah well, I can always pay way too much on eBay later haha
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Nov 15, 2020 18:19
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Schadenboner posted:This is true, and Dredge Runners is really really good, but also know that it's only 90 minutes long. Bloodlines was read by Charles Armstrong, and he did an excellent job. So much so that I'm actually having a little trouble with the Avenging Son audiobook, since I don't like the reader nearly as much. Here's the link to the Bloodlines Audible page. There's a four minute sample you can listen to, just like every other Audible entry. https://www.audible.com/pd/Bloodlines-Audiobook/1789992230
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Nov 15, 2020 18:51
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jng2058 posted:Speaking of Bloodlines, I just finished listening to the audiobook. It's a great listen. Dunno about the Irish Cop, but the rest of the voices worked well. I will say that..(speculation about mysteries in the setting follow:) Finished this recently as well with the same assumptions, it was very good. Listened to Valdor Birth of the Imperium directly afterwards and my god that was awful, like a book-length aside to other, better, stories.
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Nov 15, 2020 19:12
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Chubby Henparty posted:Finished this recently as well with the same assumptions, it was very good. Re: Bloodlines: Given the Serpent imagery, I suspect that it's a remnant of Hive Fleet Jormungandr that's in the area.
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