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Cartoon Man posted:Boba Fett made his “non cameo” debut on Mando today, he kicked rear end and hosed up a whole platoon of Stormtroopers before he got his armor back. It was pretty cool! He also confirmed that his dad Jango was a foundling Mandolorian and fought in the Mando Civil war. Looks like he’s going to be a cool cat and partner up with Din for at least the last few episodes. It also squashed all the rumors that he’s a dumbass that can’t really fight. It's not a rumor, and the movies didn't change. He is clearly a dork who can't fight, in the movies. He seems fairly smart though.
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Everything made sense to me when I saw "Directed by Robert Rodriguez" at the end.
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Dec 4, 2020 18:03
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Lmao it’s like my childhood dream come to life. RR, Boba Fett, dark troopers lmao. I love it.
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Dec 4, 2020 18:57
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Boba had knee missiles too so it’s only a matter of time until we get knee lightsabers...
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Dec 4, 2020 19:02
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More like Boba Fat, his big belly is making me laugh
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The shift from George Lucas intentionally making his villains not actually be the super cool badasses their costumes suggest to the Darth Vader slaughter scene in Rogue One (and I guess Boba Fett now) is really dull and uninteresting.
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Dec 4, 2020 21:18
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It’s not. Bad villain make for lovely stories.
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Dec 4, 2020 21:19
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It seems clear that that villains' deeds being as badass as their appearance and demeanor, or not as badass, is a stylistic choice that can be made differently depending on the goals of the surrounding story
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Dec 4, 2020 21:21
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Darth Vader in Rogue One is less about making him cool and more about making him frightening. A lot of the movie shows the Imperial ships and walkers and such as extremely huge and powerful compared to the small human characters, and the end shows Darth Vader as a smaller but no less powerful Imperial war machine, slicing his way effortlessly through soft human flesh etc
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Dec 4, 2020 21:22
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It doesn't feel like Disney, outside of the comics that nobody reads, is willing to follow the overall prequel thesis that Anakin becoming Darth Vader was a tragedy and is only going to focus on Darth Vader doing cool and powerful things.
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Dec 4, 2020 21:53
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don't care if it's dumb or fanservice-y the darth vader scene in rogue one fuckin rocks. they should make a darth vader monster/slasher flick
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Dec 4, 2020 22:14
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darth vader's 'horror/slasher flick' is just an extended sequence of him killing the women and children, too, either at the tusken village or at the jedi temple. all the potential horror movie protagonists are either killed by other people, remove three of his limbs and leave him for dead, or are hiding on a swamp/desert nobody knows about.
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Dec 4, 2020 22:39
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He's brutally killing all the good guys! Why do you think that makes him likeable??!?!?!?!
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Dec 4, 2020 22:42
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Rogue One Vader is fighting to kill Leia in the past, and thereby prevent Episodes 8 and 9 from being made. I’ll leave it at that.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Rogue One Vader is fighting to kill Leia in the past, and thereby prevent Episodes 8 and 9 from being made. I’ll leave it at that. ... gently caress, I'd watch TermiVader.
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Blood Boils posted:gently caress outta here any y'all thinking Ross is worse than Jurassic World Who the gently caress is Ross and which Star War was he in?
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Dec 4, 2020 23:26
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of the three sets of trilogies, (and they will be rebooted) I still think the most recent three are the easiest to "fix". All three have interesting stuff in them, it just has a disjointed through-line. The trilogy that would be the hardest to reboot/remake of course is the OG, because they are held in such high regard. Cynics would point to Jedi as the easiest to fix, but getting rid of Ewoks would get rid of the 80's charm of it, and the ending is still the most "Jedi" and anti-Hollywood ending of the entire series. Prequels being tweaked would be the most fun to make "better," while still keeping the core tenets that make them good. (Jedi hubris, Palp pulling the strings). (Personally I'd have the Vader transformation be hinted at/ happen at the end of movie two so that movie three is the break down as Vader murders Jedi, is truly terrifying at the height of his young Sith Power).
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Moving up the Anakin to Vader transformation would solely be able trying to make Vader cool, which he's not. The fact that his evil acts depicted in the movies are murdering natives (which nobody in the movies even feels bad about other than him), Jedi children, and then othered alien capitalists is more important to his arc than giving him fight scenes against "equal" Jedi opponents. Especially since its only the younglings that anybody cares about at all. The "good" Jedi were given free hands to kill whatever aliens they felt like if they were painted as the baddies. e: We even saw the height of his Jedi powers as Darth Vader. He lost to Obi-wan who didn't want to kill him but felt forced to do so (he thought) by Vader's blind rage. Shiroc fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Dec 5, 2020 |
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Ghost Leviathan posted:SPECTRE was a real disappointment for me for a number of reasons, but mostly because I really thought they were building up a Solid Bond/Liquid Bond confrontation (I suppose they already kinda did that in Skyfall, but still) and deep down I'm still waiting for a Bond movie to finally end with Bond vs a Metal Gear. https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1334908459842752525 DeimosRising posted:It's not a rumor, and the movies didn't change. He is clearly a dork who can't fight, in the movies. He seems fairly smart though. 
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Shiroc posted:Moving up the Anakin to Vader transformation would solely be able trying to make Vader cool, which he's not. The fact that his evil acts depicted in the movies are murdering natives (which nobody in the movies even feels bad about other than him), Jedi children, and then othered alien capitalists is more important to his arc than giving him fight scenes against "equal" Jedi opponents. Especially since its only the younglings that anybody cares about at all. The "good" Jedi were given free hands to kill whatever aliens they felt like if they were painted as the baddies. No. I'd move it up so that he would be more terrible. He'd still murder all the younglings as just Anakin, but in the third one he'd do worse as Vader, because he's not just hateful but bitter about being burned as well. Not "cool". Tragic and terrifying.
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yeah i think it's relevant that nearly all the jedi get shot in the back, and die, rather than getting some Valiant Last Stand Against Evil
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He killed the younglings as Vader. Naming has power in the movies. What would he actually do that's *worse* than what he's already shown doing that wouldn't be pointless grimdark violence?
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Vader as a figure dispensing awesome violence wouldn't be appropriate in the story about how and why he became Vader, if for no other reason than because from his perspective, the violence he dispensed beforehand was much more awesome. But it could be appropriate in a story about brave people who fear him.
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ungulateman posted:yeah i think it's relevant that nearly all the jedi get shot in the back, and die, rather than getting some Valiant Last Stand Against Evil Ki Adi Mundi is the only one who sees it coming and it doesn't make any difference. That's genuinely a great scene.
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Well, and Yoda and Obi-Wan.
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Bongo Bill posted:Well, and Yoda and Obi-Wan. Obi Wan is shot in the back and completely blind sided. He survives through pure luck. It's a cool thing that lines up with the Jedi being myopic idiots the rest of the movies.
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I love the little detail in the end of the Yoda vs. Sheev fight that it doesn't actually end with Yoda conclusively beaten in the fight. They have their wizard thing, it blows up, Yoda falls to the ground and accepts defeat. But Sheev is himself dangling with one hand, barely hanging onto the platform, while still laughing his rear end off. Yoda just realizes that even if he killed Sheev, its all over anyway. Then the movie skips over the scene where someone needed to drag Sheev back up before he falls. e: This sort of fits with the characterization in the OT. Obi-wan is more convinced that Luke needs to go kill Vader and the Sheev because he won his fight but thinks the failure was just not actually killing Vader. Yoda's position is more ambiguous other than he knows Luke ultimately needs to confront them. Shiroc fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Dec 5, 2020 |
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The Jedi always had the might they needed to defeat the Sith—Obi-Wan did it in single combat, twice!—but they failed anyway.
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Yeah, Obi-Wan has a very consistent characterization through the prequels. He actually is the swashbuckling Jedi hero from the moment he avenges his mentor Qui-Gon. He forces the Jedi to let him train Anakin because of his dutiful promise. He goes on the cool detective adventure to solve the mystery and fights a bounty hunter. He saves Sheev, sneaks into the enemy camp, gets quips, beats the enemy leader, rides a cool horse. He's The Guy. It just turns out that being that kind of hero isn't what the situation needed at all.
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The sequence where he kills General Grievous is full Indiana Jones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_psg8s9I2Bg
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romanowski posted:don't care if it's dumb or fanservice-y the darth vader scene in rogue one fuckin rocks. they should make a darth vader monster/slasher flick https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg0rXa1WnZc
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Watching Attack of the Clones for the first time in a decade and... this poo poo is really good  I guess it took me watching Clone Wars and Mandalorian to finally get over the stiffness and goofiness.
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Gargamel Gibson posted:Who the gently caress is Ross and which Star War was he in? Lol I didn't see that, Spellcheck agrees it's lame! feedmyleg posted:Watching Attack of the Clones for the first time in a decade and... this poo poo is really good One of us one of us gooble gabble
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Zoran posted:The Jedi always had the might they needed to defeat the Sith—Obi-Wan did it in single combat, twice!—but they failed anyway. Probably some fitting irony that Sidious literally gives the Jedi an army.
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