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Captain Log posted:Van Morrison has always had his head planted so firmly up his rear end he looks like a talentless snake eating itself. Oh, it's scatting all right....not the scatting he wanted to pull off Midgetskydiver posted:My favorite thing about Freep is the never ending, constant reveal that they are complete loving cowards. They are always just on the verge of doing something, but they never, even decades later, have done poo poo. "All Trump has to do is say the word" hahahaha and what rear end in a top hat? What the gently caress are any of these obese 70 year olds going to do? Trump's already "said the word" multiple times in the past, yet for some reason these true patriots never do anything more than bitch on an outdated forum. I know their political extremism is the main reason they're abandoned by family, but i'm sure if it wasn't that it would be the double speaking, backstabbing and constant bitching that would cause the same SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Jan 3, 2021 |
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SocketWrench posted:bitch on an outdated forum. lol losers
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Joint Statement from Senators Cruz, Johnson, Lankford, Daines, Kennedy, Blackburn, Braun, Senators-Elect Lummis,, Marshall, Hagerty, Tubervillequote:To: frogjerk quote:To: TigerClaws Imagine being so bloodthirsty for war with China that you consider a pandemic with a botched response the same as a military land invasion. quote:To: TigerClaws; All quote:To: Saveourcountry; All quote:To: TigerClaws quote:To: TigerClaws quote:To: TigerClaws  quote:To: rapture-me quote:To: JME_FAN quote:To: katieanna quote:To: katieanna  Well, The Lord works in mysterious ways. quote:To: TigerClaws quote:To: TigerClaws quote:To: ConservativeMind quote:To: MHGinTN quote:To: ConservativeMind
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Jan 3, 2021 01:25
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quote:If the House chooses, Trump wins because the House vote is not one vote per member; but one vote per delegation. There are more R delegations than D. You’re welcome This Freeper is actually correct. If neither candidate reaches 270 electoral votes, then the House picks the President and the Senate picks the VP. But not content with things being simple, the method for the House to pick is that all the state representatives get together and have a vote for president, with the winner of that state being awarded one vote. While the Dems control the House, broken down on a state level, there are enough states with Republican representatives that Trump would win. However, this will not happen, of course, because Biden will have more than 270 when all the counts are over.
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Jan 3, 2021 02:02
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Twelve by Pies posted:This Freeper is actually correct. If neither candidate reaches 270 electoral votes, then the House picks the President and the Senate picks the VP. But not content with things being simple, the method for the House to pick is that all the state representatives get together and have a vote for president, with the winner of that state being awarded one vote. While the Dems control the House, broken down on a state level, there are enough states with Republican representatives that Trump would win.
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Jan 3, 2021 06:34
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Nessus posted:What happens if there's multiple contenders? It seems unlikely to happen of course because you would tend to split one side more than the other with your third party crap. Like the Tmurp Party will surely get almost entirely people who otherwise vote R, should it come to pass. One of the bug reasons for the two party system is that if there's three candidates and no one gets at least 270, it's exactly the same as if there were 2 candidates and neither got to 270.
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Jan 3, 2021 06:46
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AnoHito posted:One of the bug reasons for the two party system is that if there's three candidates and no one gets at least 270, it's exactly the same as if there were 2 candidates and neither got to 270.
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Jan 3, 2021 06:56
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Nessus posted:Do they have to get a majority of the House votes or just the plurality? Majority. It's the reason that there are contingencies for if the House cannot elect a President by inauguration day. In the election of 1800 it took 35 ballots in the House for somebody to finally win an absolute majority of state delegations because some states had evenly split delegations and therefore didn't cast a vote
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Jan 3, 2021 07:27
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Captain Log posted:I'm still furious about that awful Van Morison song. I've been saying this my whole life.
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Jan 3, 2021 16:04
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Ugh. Maybe I'm reading too much Freep and theDonald and other far-right sources, but I'm getting pretty anxious about January 6th. Like, I've read all of the "no, Trump can't actually be put in office this way" analysis articles, but seeing so many people in absolute lock-step that they're totally going to pull it off and get four more years of Trump makes me a little wary. Top Republicans throwing these people a bone certainly isn't helping that unease go away. And then I remember all of the rallies planned in DC that are definitely going to turn violent, and I have something much more rational to worry about. Mental health doing great!
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I mean everyone thought it was going to get violent when the election was called, hell down here many business closed down to prepare. Then nothing happened
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Jan 3, 2021 19:12
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Crunch Buttsteak posted:Ugh. Maybe I'm reading too much Freep and theDonald and other far-right sources, but I'm getting pretty anxious about January 6th. Like, I've read all of the "no, Trump can't actually be put in office this way" analysis articles, but seeing so many people in absolute lock-step that they're totally going to pull it off and get four more years of Trump makes me a little wary. Top Republicans throwing these people a bone certainly isn't helping that unease go away. I was getting angsty about the supreme court case and it turned out fine, there is literally nothing they can do at this point to overturn the election unless half the D house members die or something
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Jan 3, 2021 19:16
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Crunch Buttsteak posted:Ugh. Maybe I'm reading too much Freep and theDonald and other far-right sources, but I'm getting pretty anxious about January 6th. Like, I've read all of the "no, Trump can't actually be put in office this way" analysis articles, but seeing so many people in absolute lock-step that they're totally going to pull it off and get four more years of Trump makes me a little wary. Top Republicans throwing these people a bone certainly isn't helping that unease go away. Think of it this way, what happens if any of them stick their head above the parapet? They'll get disowned. None of them have the guts, even if they were aware, to actually say "hey we're driving towards a cliff and it's not going to be good when we hit the bottom" so they all make out like driving off the cliff is actually a good idea. And this is a thing you can see happening throughout many areas of society, this is not enormously helpful from a mental health perspective as it just suggests people are incredibly stupid but for the specific complaint of "is trump going to magic his way back into office" I think you can safely conclude that the answer is "no" despite the apparent confidence of the people who have a very strong incentive to be confident about that in the face of all observable reality.
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Crunch Buttsteak posted:Ugh. Maybe I'm reading too much Freep and theDonald and other far-right sources, but I'm getting pretty anxious about January 6th. Like, I've read all of the "no, Trump can't actually be put in office this way" analysis articles, but seeing so many people in absolute lock-step that they're totally going to pull it off and get four more years of Trump makes me a little wary. Top Republicans throwing these people a bone certainly isn't helping that unease go away. Everything they have is fantasy make believe. Desperate people clinging to anything and everything to make their dream reality.
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It's basically a sort of mass hysteria, it is self fuelling until something catastrophic happens to break it, and also there's a bunch of money involved with grifters pushing it which doesn't help.
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Jan 3, 2021 19:19
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OwlFancier posted:Think of it this way, what happens if any of them stick their head above the parapet? They'll get disowned. I agree, but people might still get injured/die from the ones that do. That the people who did it get disowned doesn't restore their health or life. I'm not exactly Arzying, I don't think that it's inevitable that Trump's January 6th rally will turn violent or anything, it will probably just be Trump whining about how he got all the votes, more votes than any other president in history, and it's so unfair what's happening to him, and he'll announce he'll run in 2024 and then gently caress off and play golf. I know even if he were to stand up there and say "I declare martial law" that the military won't listen to him, and his rear end is still out on the 20th. But I still can't help but be a little worried there will be a couple of chuds who are too close to the edge and start poo poo after the rally is over.
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By stick their head above the parapet I mean "voice dissent that no, actually, trump is not going to be president magically in a few weeks"
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Jan 3, 2021 19:27
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OwlFancier posted:And this is a thing you can see happening throughout many areas of society, this is not enormously helpful from a mental health perspective as it just suggests people are incredibly stupid but for the specific complaint of "is trump going to magic his way back into office" I think you can safely conclude that the answer is "no" despite the apparent confidence of the people who have a very strong incentive to be confident about that in the face of all observable reality. Yeah this is what's causing the unease I think. It's much less worrying about their version of events happening - again, it won't, the logical side of my brain knows. It's much more about the difficulty in trying to reconcile just how little facts matter to this worldview combined with seeing how widespread and evangelizing it is. These people are making their own reality and attempting to impose it on the rest of us, and it's starting to freak me out a little. It's like if one day like half of your coworkers started to try to get you to believe in Qanon, and when you go to HR about it, they're drinking coffee out of a #wwg1wga mug. It's a bad vibe, even if it doesn't make Qanon any more real.
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Jan 3, 2021 19:32
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Crunch Buttsteak posted:Yeah this is what's causing the unease I think. It's much less worrying about their version of events happening - again, it won't, the logical side of my brain knows. It's much more about the difficulty in trying to reconcile just how little facts matter to this worldview combined with seeing how widespread and evangelizing it is. These people are making their own reality and attempting to impose it on the rest of us, and it's starting to freak me out a little. In this analogy, who does HR map back to in the real world?
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Jan 3, 2021 19:39
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raminasi posted:In this analogy, who does HR map back to in the real world? It's just a stand in for seeing any institutional support of anti-reality conspiracy theorists. I guess you could tie it to Ted Cruz and the Republicans that are going to object on the 6th, if you wanna stretch it that way.
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Jan 3, 2021 19:47
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Crunch Buttsteak posted:It's just a stand in for seeing any institutional support of anti-reality conspiracy theorists. I guess you could tie it to Ted Cruz and the Republicans that are going to object on the 6th, if you wanna stretch it that way. My question was semi-rhetorical: What specific actual institutions that can do anything are supporting this attempted power grab? Ted Cruz can’t really do poo poo here.
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Jan 3, 2021 19:52
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Crunch Buttsteak posted:Yeah this is what's causing the unease I think. It's much less worrying about their version of events happening - again, it won't, the logical side of my brain knows. It's much more about the difficulty in trying to reconcile just how little facts matter to this worldview combined with seeing how widespread and evangelizing it is. These people are making their own reality and attempting to impose it on the rest of us, and it's starting to freak me out a little. Consensus reality is breaking down because it turns out it was only ever a construct of hegemonic information control. Absent a church, or government, or media to create it, it doesn't exist. Which I think is a good thing in that it allows new ideas to flourish, but it has problems too when people who are assholes get ahold of it. I think it's helpful either way to retain the perspective that "making your own reality and attempting to impose it on the rest of us" is what has always happened, though, it's just that the specifics of the reality and the people doing it and the process by which it is being done, are different now.
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raminasi posted:My question was semi-rhetorical: What specific actual institutions that can do anything are supporting this attempted power grab? Ted Cruz can’t really do poo poo here. Oh, of course, it's just political posturing by Republicans who rely on fascist votes. My point isn't "oh no Cruz is going to somehow win the election for Trump," it's that this gesture is accompanied by a ton of people going "gently caress yeah, Cruz is going to somehow win the election for Trump!" and it's very disheartening and weird to process, hence the anxiety. OwlFancier posted:Consensus reality is breaking down because it turns out it was only ever a construct of hegemonic information control. Absent a church, or government, or media to create it, it doesn't exist. I dunno, OANN isn't going anywhere after the dust settles. Lots of right wing media is actively contributing to this consensus reality as we speak, so I'm not as optimistic that this stupid fanfiction reality bullshit is going to go away after this. Freepers are still going to go to their graves cursing Dominion while awaiting for the Kraken to take them up to White Heaven.
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Oh I didn't say it was going to stop existing, if anything it's only going to accelerate as alternative and on demand media become more prolific. There is no longer one hegemonic source defining reality, there are many competing versions of it on offer.
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Jan 3, 2021 20:42
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'Go to the streets and be as violent as Antifa and BLM': Rep. Louie Gohmertquote:To: Dr. Franklin; The Toll; FreedomPoster quote:To: Dr. Franklin quote:To: Kazan quote:To: EvilCapitalist quote:To: Dr. Franklin quote:To: Dr. Franklin
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Jan 3, 2021 20:46
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*Struggling to put on balaclava* How do you do fellow radicals?
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quote:Seriously, some politicians and media morons need to lose their lives before they start taking patriots seriously. Otherwise, they’ll laugh their asses off. quote:There is going to be violence. Antifa and BLM will see to it that is true. And, the media will blame it all on the Proud Boys and Trump supporters. We need to start taking out politicians and the media! But if anyone actually does it, they're obviously Antifa framing us!
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Louie Gohmert being uncharacteristically responsible in calling for a dramatic deescalation in rightwing violence.
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Freep: But we can use canes and crutches
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Jan 3, 2021 22:14
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The idea of the elderly going to the front lines to fight is sad and hilarious. I'm loving 40 and I have no business up there, much less someone in their 70's.
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Jan 3, 2021 22:52
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Why are you prepared if you're a veteran? You might have had been prepared but you're out now. Why we you still prepared?
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Jan 3, 2021 23:14
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The military is all cucked libs now, militias and cops are where it’s at for the Real Patriots
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Jan 3, 2021 23:17
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HootTheOwl posted:Why are you prepared if you're a veteran? Doing a military coup is just like riding a bicycle.
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Jan 3, 2021 23:18
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Zeroisanumber posted:The idea of the elderly going to the front lines to fight is sad and hilarious. I'm loving 40 and I have no business up there, much less someone in their 70's. The greatest heat of this seems to be among the people who are, broadly speaking, comfortable and well off. Not that there are not plenty of broke and desperate people who voted for Trump out of outrage or out of hope, but his passionate supporters are all these middle-class clowns.
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Jan 3, 2021 23:52
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Nessus posted:The fact that the people who seem to be the most passionate about this in terms of their grassroots rhetoric, are also all elderly fucks, is why I do not greatly fear them doing some kind of putsch. I would be far more worried if they had a lot of dead-eyed veterans of the Forever War among them. Even if it was 90% combat veterans high on white supremacist rhetoric I wouldn't be concerned. Their plan begins and ends with showing up on the National Mall with a rifle and a Trump flag and "Seeing what happens" Even if it got halfway to the point they're threatening to go to communication breakdowns and incoherent orders from multiple crowd leaders would cause organizational collapse after the first minute of actual violence/arrests
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God this would be like watching a fleet of Eric Cartman's without Tip Assist cant cook creole bream posted:Doing a military coup is just like riding a bicycle. Nah, this isn't a coup. I've been assured by multiple Trumpers what they want is written in the constitution, right there next to the Abortion Article and the Free Man Of the Land magic words SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Jan 4, 2021 |
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Jan 4, 2021 00:35
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DarklyDreaming posted:Even if it was 90% combat veterans high on white supremacist rhetoric I wouldn't be concerned. Their plan begins and ends with showing up on the National Mall with a rifle and a Trump flag and "Seeing what happens" Even if it got halfway to the point they're threatening to go to communication breakdowns and incoherent orders from multiple crowd leaders would cause organizational collapse after the first minute of actual violence/arrests
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Trump’s full Jan. 2 call with Ga. secretary of state (FULL AUDIO)quote:To: Lewis9 3D Chess? quote:To: Lewis9 Honestly, who wouldn't record that call? quote:To: Lewis9 quote:To: mo quote:To: Lewis9 "Admitedly, he does have a few flaws..." quote:To: Alter Kaker Oh poo poo, Trump is reaching levels of NotMad I didn't think were possible for a human being to reach! quote:To: Lewis9 quote:To: Lewis9 quote:To: odawg Hi Ann! quote:To: Lewis9 quote:To: Alter Kaker quote:To: VAFreedom Do you... doubt our Glorious Leader? quote:To: Alter Kaker I forget what I was up to; 270-280 somethingth Dimensional Chess? quote:To: dp0622 quote:To: Alter Kaker quote:To: Ann Archy Man, Bargaining Phase already? quote:To: Lewis9 parachute account spotted!quote:To: Lewis9 quote:To: dp0622
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