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Patware
Jan 3, 2005

like HELL i'm gonna click that and watch his beard move and eye meat jiggle with my own eyes

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pseudanonymous
Aug 30, 2008

When you make the second entry and the debits and credits balance, and you blow them to hell.

Patware posted:

like HELL i'm gonna click that and watch his beard move and eye meat jiggle with my own eyes

I thought that kind of dwarf was a made-up Tolkien thing.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Ha, he can't even make up believable bullshit answers about a "completed" story.

Slick
Jun 6, 2003

Solice Kirsk posted:

Ha, he can't even make up believable bullshit answers about a "completed" story.

He used his fallback statement from when he first published "I had it all wrote up already, but since it was split into multiple books blah blah"

I wrote parts of a thesis on the changes in social media around Rothfuss as an authors two years ago. And this same poo poo is still going on haha.

mewse
May 2, 2006

Slick posted:

He used his fallback statement from when he first published "I had it all wrote up already, but since it was split into multiple books blah blah"

I wrote parts of a thesis on the changes in social media around Rothfuss as an authors two years ago. And this same poo poo is still going on haha.

Yeah I also noticed that he's still saying it's finished and he's trying to math his way out of it "the time between writing it and the first book was 1994 to 2007 and this has been less years than that!!"

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 6 hours!

Slick posted:

He used his fallback statement from when he first published "I had it all wrote up already, but since it was split into multiple books blah blah"

I wrote parts of a thesis on the changes in social media around Rothfuss as an authors two years ago. And this same poo poo is still going on haha.

Did you title it "A Thesis in Three Parts?"

Slick
Jun 6, 2003
Shii' Three thesii? SA could have all the old Rothfuss threads turned into a critique book, publish and be profitable before 'Doors of Stone'

New year trying new things, Want to say Thanks for helping me get a degree in English , which I've not used for anything at all. Shout out to:


Sham Bam Bamina!
My Bony Fealty
Mastur
Karnegal
Dimeks

And
Benson Cunningham

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


Yeah, BotL’s critiques of the writing in these books from the previous thread are very insightful. I read them as I was working on a fantasy novel and there were some “oh poo poo” moments that caused me to go back and change things.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Ccs posted:

Yeah, BotL’s critiques of the writing in these books from the previous thread are very insightful. I read them as I was working on a fantasy novel and there were some “oh poo poo” moments that caused me to go back and change things.

The biggest ones for me were where he pointed out all the female characters only exist to make Kvothe look better. They have 0 agency or important to the story other then serving as a set-piece for Kvothe to dunk on someone or swoon as he looks cool.

I don't think BotL ever even covered the atrocity that was book 2 where Kvothe saves two women who were being held and likely gangraped by a fake Ruh gang and 2 pages later they're begging him to have sex because he's such a heroic figure.

I can't remember and I'm not digging it out to check but I also thought there was some incredibly gross line about how the captives being sex abuse victims meant they wouldn't be able to get good husbands back in their village and that's bad but oh well it happens in poor backwater villages and Kvothe can't do anything about it.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


Yeah there’s a bunch of absolute garbage in Wise Mans Fear. It’s such an aimless, baggy book filled with objectionable stuff. This is a great review of it:

https://www.pornokitsch.com/2011/06/new-releases-the-wise-mans-fear-by-patrick-rothfuss.html

Lottery of Babylon
Apr 25, 2012

STRAIGHT TROPIN'

Kvothe thinks about how the child sex slave looks really hot and just like the girl he wants to bang, then caresses her while she fails to resist because he drugged her posted:

In fifteen minutes she was asleep. I covered the two of them with a blanket and watched their faces.
In sleep they were even more beautiful than before. I reached out to brush a strand of hair from Krin’s
cheek. To my surprise, she opened her eyes and stared at me. Not the marble stare she had given me
before, she looked at me with the dark eyes of a young Denna.

I froze with my hand on her cheek. We watched each other for a second. Then her eyes drew closed
again. I couldn’t tell if it was the drug pulling her under, or her own will surrendering to sleep.

Benson Cunningham
Dec 9, 2006

Chief of J.U.N.K.E.R. H.Q.

Slick posted:

Shii' Three thesii? SA could have all the old Rothfuss threads turned into a critique book, publish and be profitable before 'Doors of Stone'

New year trying new things, Want to say Thanks for helping me get a degree in English , which I've not used for anything at all. Shout out to:


Sham Bam Bamina!
My Bony Fealty
Mastur
Karnegal
Dimeks

And
Benson Cunningham

Thanks for enjoying my shitposts.

This might be the first time my sibling and I have both been positively remarked on at the same time.

PJOmega
May 5, 2009
The praise being heaped in that youtube comment section is sad.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


Somewhat unrelated but images of jack from twitter are circulating now that he banned trump and his beard is possibly even worse than Rothfuss’.

Kchama
Jul 25, 2007
The idea that the book is completed is laughable as he showed his outline of the third book not long after WMF came out and all he had written was "Ambrose does something here." in one of the chapters. My poo poo is more complete than that.



I'll point out that this entire arc with the fake Ruh is a copy and paste of the short story he wrote that got him published in the first place.

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

---FAGNER---
TEAM-MATE
Just saw this in a Wheel of Time review blog, badass grandpa Thom Merrilin is a king killing bard (he killed king Galldrian), and he had a girlfriend named Dena... The book where Dena turned up (before being killed) was released 1990, so long before Rothfuss published anything.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


Taking a side plot from a 13 book series and expanding it into a trilogy is not a bad idea. Though it only makes it funnier that it’s taken 1600 pages to get hardly anywhere in that plot.

Kchama
Jul 25, 2007

Ccs posted:

Taking a side plot from a 13 book series and expanding it into a trilogy is not a bad idea. Though it only makes it funnier that it’s taken 1600 pages to get hardly anywhere in that plot.

Ah-ha, so it was a Wheel of Time ripoff!

MartingaleJack
Aug 26, 2004

I'll split you open and I don't even like coconuts.
Replace the fae monsters with Nazghul or Shades or whatever Robert Jordan called them and yup. The structural similarities are disguised by the frame story, but the Chandarian are basically the Forsaken..

PJOmega
May 5, 2009
Listening to the podcast of "372 Pages We'll Never Get Back" from back when they were covering Ernest Cline's "Armada." Unsurprised to hear the hack called one of his characters Kvothe, or one of the character's game characters was named Kvothe at least.

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat

Armada posted:

When I pulled up my friends list, I saw that Cruz and Diehl were both already logged in, their player rankings listed beside their call signs. Cruz (whose call sign was “Kvothe”) was currently in 6791st place, and Diehl (aka “Dealio”) was ranked 7445th. Their Terra Firma player rankings were much higher, but they were both still a long way from making it into the Thirty Dozen like Ray.

I switched on my helmet microphone and joined Kvothe and Dealio on their private voice-chat line.

“You still won’t admit you’re wrong?” Cruz was shouting as I logged in.

“I told you, your Wonder Woman argument proves nothing!” Diehl said. “Yes, Princess Diana of Themyscira did once wield Mjolnir in some obscure bullshit crossover issue! That only proves my point, Cruz! Do you think Wonder Woman would ever be caught dead wielding Sting?”

“No, but she’s a superhero, and they don’t use swords, do they?” Cruz said—clearly without thinking his statement through.

“Superheroes don’t use swords?” Diehl said gleefully. “What about Nightcrawler? Deadpool? Electra, Shatterstar, Green Arrow, Hawkeye—oh, and then there’s Blade and Katana! Two superheroes who are actually named after swords! Oh, and Wolverine had that idiotic Muramasa Blade made with part of his soul. Which, while incredibly lame, was still a far cooler magical weapon than Sting!”

“Sorry to interrupt, ladies,” I said. “I think you should just agree to disagree.”

Kchama
Jul 25, 2007

Wil Wheaton's reading of that just really gets across how loathsome that conversation was.

TV Zombie
Sep 6, 2011

Burying all the trauma from past nights
Burying my anger in the past

How does Kline get people to give him money for that “prose”?

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

TV Zombie posted:

How does Kline get people to give him money for that “prose”?

I genuinely thought that was a reddit post about gatekeeping or incels until I read this comment.

Kchama
Jul 25, 2007

TV Zombie posted:

How does Kline get people to give him money for that “prose”?

Dunno, but Steven Spielberg legitimately loves his stuff and that's why he made RP1 and helped Cline write RP2.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


Kchama posted:

Ah-ha, so it was a Wheel of Time ripoff!

I feel like it’s half Wheel of Time, half Wizard of Earthsea.

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

🍂🎃🏞️💦

Kchama posted:

Dunno, but Steven Spielberg legitimately loves his stuff and that's why he made RP1 and helped Cline write RP2.

The entire series is just jerking him off so of course he loves it

TheGreatEvilKing
Mar 28, 2016





TV Zombie posted:

How does Kline get people to give him money for that “prose”?

Remember, the guiding principle of nerd media is not quality, it's how many times you can repeat the same limited concepts the nerd recognizes so he can stand up and clap like a trained seal.

It's literally how in Avengers: Infinity War and Endgame they play a musical sting when a character does something heroic so you can cheer.

perepelki
Dec 11, 2020

know before Whom you stand
everyone should larp

Kchama
Jul 25, 2007

Ccs posted:

I feel like it’s half Wheel of Time, half Wizard of Earthsea.

Sorry my joke was that Wheel of Time spends a billion pages of side plots and takes forever to get anywhere in them.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


Kchama posted:

Sorry my joke was that Wheel of Time spends a billion pages of side plots and takes forever to get anywhere in them.

Ah, I never read Wheel of Time but the fact that it actually concludes is a big plus, especially with multiple side plots. Kingkiller has no side plots and doesn't get anywhere in anything. Or perhaps Kingkiller is all side plots, but since they all involve Kvothe it fools us into thinking its part of the main plot.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
Every couple of years I like to pop back in and check on the status of this basically already written trilogy.

lol

TheGreatEvilKing
Mar 28, 2016





Ccs posted:

Ah, I never read Wheel of Time but the fact that it actually concludes is a big plus, especially with multiple side plots. Kingkiller has no side plots and doesn't get anywhere in anything. Or perhaps Kingkiller is all side plots, but since they all involve Kvothe it fools us into thinking its part of the main plot.

I suppose bringing in another author to do the last book is one way this poo poo gets finished.

pseudanonymous
Aug 30, 2008

When you make the second entry and the debits and credits balance, and you blow them to hell.

TheGreatEvilKing posted:

I suppose bringing in another author to do the last book is one way this poo poo gets finished.

I can't imagine Rothfuss letting someone else touch his precious Denna.. I mean work. Maybe like 5 years ago he could've claimed he had a contract and writer's block and the publisher was forcing him or something but not it'll require him to die to run out of money, and sadly I think we know which of those will happen first.

Tambreet
Nov 28, 2006

Ninja Platypus
Muldoon
Just came across this new article which seems based on the Twitch stream the thread has already commented on, but I hadn't seen this before:

quote:

Rothfuss also answered a few other, more frivolous questions. For examples, what would he do if he were immortal and indestructible? “I would write books forever,” he said. “I could get so much done on an infinite timeline. I would feel free to put some things off, I could so so much revision.”

Karia
Mar 27, 2013

Self-portrait, Snake on a Plane
Oil painting, c. 1482-1484
Leonardo DaVinci (1452-1591)

Tambreet posted:

Just came across this new article which seems based on the Twitch stream the thread has already commented on, but I hadn't seen this before:

I'd like to think that if I had infinite time I'd do everything: learn every language, write a bunch of books, play all the instruments, etc. In reality, I know that the number of distractions is going to increase faster than my ability to get bored of them.

Kchama
Jul 25, 2007

Ccs posted:

Ah, I never read Wheel of Time but the fact that it actually concludes is a big plus, especially with multiple side plots. Kingkiller has no side plots and doesn't get anywhere in anything. Or perhaps Kingkiller is all side plots, but since they all involve Kvothe it fools us into thinking its part of the main plot.

It concluded because the original author died because it spent five hundred years on side plots and descriptions of sniffing and braid tugging and so the author's wife hired a guy to finish the books.

I'd say the Kingkiller Chronicles are well on their way to having the same ending.

TV Zombie
Sep 6, 2011

Burying all the trauma from past nights
Burying my anger in the past

Is there a spouse or legal guardian that could bestow authorship?

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



Well it is sort of a book about academia so it would be fitting if he gave someone second author billing for finishing the manuscript.

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PJOmega
May 5, 2009

Tambreet posted:

Just came across this new article which seems based on the Twitch stream the thread has already commented on, but I hadn't seen this before:

That's so banal it hurts. "Write what you know" is an age old advice for a reason, and if you wanted to write with an infinite timeline go out and experience the world so you can write more than trite hairy potter knockoffs. "I'd sit and write" is such a bullshit answer that all it tells the audience is no, you wouldn't.

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