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Bruceski posted:I really need to read Mistborn series 2 at some point. I prefer to curl up with a physical paperback, but outside of a library card what's the cheapest way to legally get those books in any non-audiobook format these days? used paperbacks on amazon are usually under ten bucks
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eke out posted:used paperbacks on amazon are usually under ten bucks Good point. My main (relatively) recent Sanderson purchases have been the big honking Stormlight hardbacks so I kinda completely forgot to check that.
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Jan 24, 2021 07:16
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eke out posted:[spoilers] oooh so juicy. Nothing outside expectations though but the hallmark of Sanderson's style is that the twists are believable and structurally relevant.
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Jan 24, 2021 07:20
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Bruceski posted:I really need to read Mistborn series 2 at some point. I prefer to curl up with a physical paperback, but outside of a library card what's the cheapest way to legally get those books in any non-audiobook format these days? Same... Only cosmere stuff I haven't read is Mistborn Era 2 because I'm really turned off by the setting. Also reminds me too much of the horrible movie where they bend bullets or whatever... Not a fan of such blatant earth stuff being put into fantasy like guns.
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Jan 25, 2021 02:00
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I thought fantasy Wild West was cool as hell and I really loved the alomancy as a concept.
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Jan 25, 2021 04:11
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insider posted:Same... Only cosmere stuff I haven't read is Mistborn Era 2 because I'm really turned off by the setting. Also reminds me too much of the horrible movie where they bend bullets or whatever... Not a fan of such blatant earth stuff being put into fantasy like guns. I'm usually the same. I much prefer my fantasy settings to be "pure", with guns being the big thing that makes me start to dislike the world being built. But it somehow just works for Wax & Wayne, which is partly because I just like several of the Mistborn 2 era characters a lot, and partly due to the much lower stakes. It does hurt a little that Alloy of Law is imho a bit weaker than Shadows of Self and Bands of Mourning. That said, if you absolutely 100% don't care about the setting, and don't mind being spoiled about it, you should then at least read Secret History.
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Jan 25, 2021 05:22
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insider posted:Same... Only cosmere stuff I haven't read is Mistborn Era 2 because I'm really turned off by the setting. Also reminds me too much of the horrible movie where they bend bullets or whatever... Not a fan of such blatant earth stuff being put into fantasy like guns. Echoing what the others said. I too don't like guns in fantasy. It works with Wax and Wayne. They are also short books.
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Jan 25, 2021 05:41
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insider posted:Same... Only cosmere stuff I haven't read is Mistborn Era 2 because I'm really turned off by the setting. Also reminds me too much of the horrible movie where they bend bullets or whatever... Not a fan of such blatant earth stuff being put into fantasy like guns. If it makes you feel better, in the setting they also have people who use aluminum bullets, because allomancy can't affect it so it usually goes poorly for a misting who expects a bullet to get deflected and instead gets it buried in their temple.
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Jan 25, 2021 05:51
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The setting of Era 2 is literally the entire best part of the series and IMO the cosmere so far, it's so hard to find good fantasy with actual technology progression and societal changes, it's always just 'welp we have magic, it's this forever'
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Jan 25, 2021 18:04
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That’s why I am kind of excited about Era 3. like, will spaceships need to be made of aluminum so they can’t be messed with? Does can they now travel t different systems in the Cosmere?
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Jan 25, 2021 18:47
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KKKLIP ART posted:That’s why I am kind of excited about Era 3. like, will spaceships need to be made of aluminum so they can’t be messed with? Does can they now travel t different systems in the Cosmere? I mean, original Era 3 is technically Era 4 now. Since original Era 2 became new Era 3.
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Jan 25, 2021 18:57
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Strange. Either way I think combining legit sci-fi with mistborn magic seems beat.
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Jan 25, 2021 19:05
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What they mean is, Era 3 is Netrunner. Spelljammer is era 4 now
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Jan 25, 2021 20:28
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Jorenko posted:What they mean is, Era 3 is Netrunner. Spelljammer is era 4 now I hope Era 3 brings true cyberpunk dystopia to Scadriel before we get the Era 4 galactic unification magic wars. Sazed engineered them a bountiful natural paradise and they're already speedrunning unchecked industrial revolution.
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Jan 25, 2021 20:34
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Luxury gay space allomantic communism or BUST
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Jan 25, 2021 20:56
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I remember reading somewhere that now-Era 3 is going to be 1980s-style tech. Dunno if that has changed.
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Jan 25, 2021 21:34
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Mordiceius posted:I remember reading somewhere that now-Era 3 is going to be 1980s-style tech. Dunno if that has changed. Accurate as far as the last State of the Sanderson (i.e. ~1 month ago).
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Jan 25, 2021 21:54
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Give me Mistborn: Shadowrunner with some cognitive realm matrix insanity.
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Jan 25, 2021 22:16
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I also want ridiculous Bond-style allomantic gadgets. All of the gadgets. The allomantic grenades in BoM gotta just be the precursor to assorted wearable tech. And in space-age mistborn I want allomantic power armor please. Maybe that can withstand whatever the hell shardblades end up becoming.
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Jan 25, 2021 22:24
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M_Gargantua posted:I hope Era 3 brings true cyberpunk dystopia to Scadriel before we get the Era 4 galactic unification magic wars. Wasn't one of the plot points that it was too perfect, and they had stagnated until there was a degree of struggle?
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Jan 26, 2021 16:49
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DarkHorse posted:Wasn't one of the plot points that it was too perfect, and they had stagnated until there was a degree of struggle? That's what harmony says but for someone who's supposed to have near omniscience the actual track record is pretty awful
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Jan 26, 2021 16:52
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Sanderson's pitch for Era 2 was apparently "you're checking in on your old buddy who became a god" harmony is supposed to be loving it up (mod edit: someone asked for spoiler tags) Somebody fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Jan 26, 2021 |
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Jan 26, 2021 17:01
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I finished Warbreaker, it was ok, too long for what it was. I'm glad it wasn't my first Cosmere book.
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Jan 26, 2021 17:15
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ConfusedUs posted:I also want ridiculous Bond-style allomantic gadgets. All of the gadgets. Have you read the sixth of the dusk sequel preview?
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Jan 26, 2021 20:20
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RoW chat on the Thrill:big mean giraffe posted:Sunk in the ocean doesn't necessarily mean they can't easily locate it, just means it's really hard to find if you don't know where to look. WOB also states it's more secure than we think, and he has more info about it's storage but it wasn't the right time to put it into RoW. Tunicate posted:in the ocean in the vault that the dawnshard used to be in, maybe DarkHorse posted:Exactly, there was something to the effect of "oh my god it's idiotic they would just completely lose it" and Brandon said something to the effect it's secure and they can get at it again. The Dawnshard vault seems the most likely option that we know about I'm super reliant on Arcanum being updated with WoBs so missed hearing about this tidbit. New WoB just got added to Arcanum, though it's a few days old: quote:Chaos
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Jan 27, 2021 07:09
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Aren’t oceans land in the cognitive realm? Wouldn’t you just walk up to the weird box and pop it open?
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Jan 27, 2021 08:13
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They are, but I assume you have to be in the physical realm to open that box, being in shadesmar won't do it.
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Captain Monkey posted:Aren’t oceans land in the cognitive realm? Wouldn’t you just walk up to the weird box and pop it open? do we know how aluminum interacts with shadesmar? there might be something there we're unaware of
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Complete guess: in Shadesmar you won't see the glowing soul or whatever the sphere with it looks like on the other side. I've slowly been making my way through Hero of Ages, maybe I'm reading way too into this... "Hero of Ages, Part 4 posted:A man with a given power - such as an Allomantic ability - who then gained a Hemalurgic spike granting that same power would be nearly twice as strong as a natural unenhanced Allomancer But the way it starts off generically "with a given power" just sounds like some greater Cosmere foreshadowing, IMO. There was some discussion a few pages back about whether Hemalurgy would work off-world and I think it was determined it would work, it's just a matter of knowing where to stick the pointy end and having the intent to do it?
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Jan 27, 2021 14:05
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I have been thinking about this to much Marsh vs a Herald. I keep siding with Marsh even if you ignore atium allomancy.
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Jan 27, 2021 15:28
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Yea a Mistborn sounds like pretty much the ultimate badass, I don't know how any of the other magic systems would stand up to one. Although soulcasting the air to oil and lighting that on fire might give a Mistborn a real challenge 
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Sab669 posted:Yea a Mistborn sounds like pretty much the ultimate badass, I don't know how any of the other magic systems would stand up to one. Calidus posted:I have been thinking about this to much Marsh vs a Herald. I keep siding with Marsh even if you ignore atium allomancy. aparmenideanmonad fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Jan 27, 2021 |
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Jan 27, 2021 16:40
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Space Butler posted:Have you read the sixth of the dusk sequel preview? No. But now I want to.
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Jan 27, 2021 16:44
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Sab669 posted:Yea a Mistborn sounds like pretty much the ultimate badass, I don't know how any of the other magic systems would stand up to one. Nothing we've seen can match a high powered Bondsmith because (ROW spoilers) as we saw with Ishar, a Bondsmith can write one person's Investiture and Connection to another, including themselves. Since they were able to Connect the bridgemen in a way to drain their stormlight, a Bondsmith could likely do the same to drain aa Mistborn's metal reserves similar to the effect of burning aluminum. Once the Bondsmith wins that first fight, every subsequent fight will get exponentially easier because they will keep absorbing more and more powers from whomever they beat, and a Bonsmith who can compound full Mistborn allomancy along with other powers is going to quickly outpace every non-shard entity we've seen, including Hoid. Imagine Dalinar with the powers of the Lord Ruler and Susebron, for example.
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Jan 27, 2021 16:50
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bondsmithing seems to be shortranged tho
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Jan 27, 2021 16:50
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Good points. I really need to re-read RoW, there's so much I don't remember / downright missed. But also I want to finish HoA first and I'm having a hard time staying focused on it.
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Jan 27, 2021 16:51
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Lightweavers can shoot radiation and Dustbringers can split atoms so no, I don't think an Allomancer/Feruchemist would beat a Herald.
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Daric posted:Lightweavers can shoot radiation and Dustbringers can split atoms so no, I don't think an Allomancer/Feruchemist would beat a Herald. But they can throw coins really hard 
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Tunicate posted:bondsmithing seems to be shortranged tho Yeah, this is why I still think Marsh probably wins if he goes into the fight with immediate intent to kill. Going to be tough to deal with steelrunning + pewterarming shoving a fist through your skull at Mach 2 even if he doesn't have any coins to snipe you with. But, y'know, in the context of an actual plot there's plenty of room for a high powered Scadrian to get surprise-connection-smacked down by a bondsmith. Daric posted:Lightweavers can shoot radiation and Dustbringers can split atoms so no, I don't think an Allomancer/Feruchemist would beat a Herald.
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Daric posted:Lightweavers can shoot radiation and Dustbringers can split atoms so no, I don't think an Allomancer/Feruchemist would beat a Herald. Well the current heralds have a loose grip on sanity, so I feel like emotional manipulation would be pretty effective.
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