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Arist posted:
This game is warning you from experiencing an end scenario that is played up for laughs here, but in previous games, would either be tragic or have in-game consequences.
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Feb 13, 2021 10:21
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In P3 it is implied that you date all the female confidants (as the male protagonist) pretty much in sequence, which is...uh....
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Feb 13, 2021 14:49
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P3 forces you into it, "tragic in-game consequences" my rear end.
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kw0134 posted:In P3 it is implied that you date all the female confidants (as the male protagonist) pretty much in sequence, which is...uh.... Funky Valentine posted:P3 forces you into it, "tragic in-game consequences" my rear end. P3 had a lot of teething issues.
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Feb 13, 2021 16:20
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Funky Valentine posted:P3 forces you into it, "tragic in-game consequences" my rear end. I agree there is not a lot of warning about how certain social links can reverse and how they can change without much or any warning, and if you did know beforehand, you can avoid it only by leveling up only a few social links at a time (though this prevents having all max social links). Though with the fusion bonuses, the game also incentivizes you to max as many as you want or need, so then it incentivizes you, if you play the male mc, to be an unscrupulous teenager with a mapped-out plan. Nonetheless, the previous games used to take the situation more seriously. Now it does not, and sadly, the warning in Persona 5 only serves to advise you to avoid a scene that is played up for laughs.
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Flair posted:I agree there is not a lot of warning about how certain social links can reverse and how they can change without much or any warning, and if you did know beforehand, you can avoid it only by leveling up only a few social links at a time (though this prevents having all max social links). Though with the fusion bonuses, the game also incentivizes you to max as many as you want or need, so then it incentivizes you, if you play the male mc, to be an unscrupulous teenager with a mapped-out plan. Eh, P4 also has a similar outcome. It's not as 'deserved comeuppance', but there's nothing stopping P4MC from dating everyone other than morals. The problem is less the social links reversing (which is a neat idea in concept but flawed in execution) but more that the Male MC does not have any option but to date the female links if he progresses far enough; unlike the female MC and P4-on, there's no 'rejection' option.
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kw0134 posted:In P3 it is implied that you date all the female confidants (as the male protagonist) pretty much in sequence, which is...uh.... What's the story here? I've not played that game. Is it just, "Reach certain rank of confidant -> You are now dating them"?
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Gort posted:What's the story here? I've not played that game. Is it just, "Reach certain rank of confidant -> You are now dating them"?
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Gort posted:What's the story here? I've not played that game. Is it just, "Reach certain rank of confidant -> You are now dating them"? Yes. At a certain level, the girl decides that you're in a relationship, and reacts badly if you don't hang out with them often enough or see other girls. You're not given the option to continue the link platonically in P3. This does not say good things about the P3 MC, or his potential girlfriends when you think about it.
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Feb 13, 2021 23:02
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In fairness P3 MC is a hardened sociopath.
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The P3 MC is a loving dork who runs with his hands in his pockets. He sucks.
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Chapter 30: 5/16: Shacking Up This update contains content from Parts 28 and 29 of the original LP.  Anon: played too many games Morning Music: So Boring   Thanks to the school, I can even talk to you outside of counseling now.Oh god, they’ve got the therapist teaching classes now. This school is doomed. I want to talk a little about how mental health and perception can affect you. Don’t worry—I don’t want to stress you out or anything. Just relax and listen. How much do you guys know about the emotional mind? See, what’s going on in your mind can affect your body pretty significantly. There’s proof it can even heal you, depending on your outlook. So, Hamiru-kun! What do we call the phenomenon where believing in a treatment’s power is enough to improve your condition? Yup! That’s correct. Some people specify that placebos don’t actually have any curative properties. But even if the medicine does nothing chemically, it can affect your perception and help you feel better. On the other hand, if you don’t trust the medicine to begin with, it might make you feel even worse… We call that a nocebo.Maaku gains Knowledge +1. That’s just one example, but my point is that our minds and bodies are more connected than we think. So it’s important not to push yourself too hard. Remember, your mind needs time to rest too. And it’s my job to help with that, so… Come by the nurse’s office whenever you’re feeling down.  The mind affects the body, huh? You think I’ll change back into a human if I just believe in it hard enough?Morning → After School  Anon: I searched… makes no sense Anon: Who’s spreading this? Anon: try and steal it, asshats  I’ve been feeling pretty down lately. Maybe I should go to counseling… I never knew that art could be so… explosive! Have you been to counseling yet? Huh. The Madarame exhibit, eh? When is it until?  The train is the fastest way to go—plus, we can bring pets on here.Music: Wicked Plan  Hey, who’re you calling a pet!? Dude, be quiet! We didn’t pay the pet fare. I’m the one guiding you to your destination! You should be calling me “Master”!  Er, shoot…! Is that your pet, Mister? I heard it meowing! Why are you lying, child? You think it’s fun, to come over here and tell *lies!?* Uh, it’s just a toy! A toy that… meows when you press on its head! You heard her, Maaku. Press on its head. This is ridic—  M-Mewww… Wowweeeee! Again! Again! Time for sweet revenge.  Mew… Meowowowowowowowow! *retch* Ahaha, that’s so funny! I wanna hear it again! I just threw up in my mouth… Seriously…? This train announcer has the same voice actor as Kaneshiro, and I don’t know what to do with that information. Oh, this is our stop! Well, see you later! Bye bye! Mm-hm! Bye bye!Music: Tokyo Daylight  Doesn’t look like there are any stations close by to that address… If anything, this is the closest station. What!? Then we gotta walk the rest of the way!? What kinda phantom thief takes the train, and then walks to their destination!? Stop your complaining. It’s supposedly a shack, but this is the neighborhood he lives in… As expected of a famous artist. I guess she’s saying it’s still expensive to live here even if the residence is a trashheap? Looks like the fastest route is to get to the station square and then go to Central Street. Let’s move!  My only regret is that it was so crowded, I couldn’t spend more time there… (Wealthy-Looking Woman) I know. Once they showed it on TV, all the people with just a casual appreciation for art flooded in. I wish I could bring one home to enjoy whenever I want. Maybe I’ll ask my husband to buy me one.  (Gratified-Looking Man) Ah, it was amazing! Every piece on display was absolutely superb. Mr. Madarame truly is the pride of Japan’s art world. He’s so talented, and yet, so humble. Mr. Madarame’s personal exhibit opened just yesterday, but it’s already a huge success. Tickets, unsurprisingly, are extremely hard to come by. Back to you, Ken.  It’s his fault I have to live such a lovely life… ...It’s got nothing to do with you. He’s fooled everyone. You’re all idiots…  (Intellectual Woman) You’re fine. You won’t need to think too deeply. You’ll “feel” it when you see his work. Yes, the passion that Mr. Madarame puts in his work is undeniable. I’m sure you’ll feel it too. I see. I’ve heard a lot of good things about this exhibit on TV, too. I’m getting excited!  It’s supposed to be in a residential area past Central Street. We’ll have to walk a bit though. Okay, let’s get going!Music: Disquiet   Reciting the details… of this case… like beat poetry… isn’t helping… Reason for turning himself in is… a heavy conscience, huh… People don’t change that easily. I would know, I’m one of them! Send in the Pleasant Boy to look into this… just in case… We’re at the right address… The door plate does say “Madarame.” Uhhh… You ring the bell. Me!? The walls won’t collapse when I do, will they? No one sneeze or we’ll blow this house down, okay?  (through intercom) Sorry, we don’t want any. Um, it’s Takamaki. *frantic crashing noises as he rushes outside*  Are you two like some sort of parasitic organism that’s latched onto this girl?Music: Suspicion Yeah, we’re not actually here to talk about the modeling. We gotta ask you somethin’ important. …Madarame’s a plagiarist, right? We know all about that and the abuse. Hm? We read about it online. *holds up phone*  You idiots have no idea what you’re blathering about. He welcomes his pupils into the sanctity of his own home! He’s a charitable man! As the one living with and studying under him, I’m telling you straight out that it’s false. What if you’re lyin’ about it? Touché… I had no family when Sensei took me in and raised me into what you see now! If you continue to ridicule the man I owe my life to, you will rue this day! …You really think that?  What’s the matter? I heard you yelling. Senseeeei, help! They’re making up lies about you! Eh, it’s fine. They’re probably just worried about their friend. …Understood, Sensei. Now, if you’ll excuse me. Not really any skin off my nose if some punks start digging up dirt… What’re they gonna do about it? Tell an adult? Hehehe… …I know! I think you’ll be able to believe in Sensei if you saw that painting.Music: Alright (Elp Version)  It’s still wild to me that Yusuke can afford a smartphone. This was the painting that inspired me to become an artist. It’s so beautiful… I don’t know all this fine-art stuff, but even I can tell that this is impressive… When I first saw you, I felt the same powerful emotion as when I saw this painting… Me? I wish to pursue beauty like this. And I believe drawing you will be part of that pursuit. I implore you: seriously consider my offer. Not today, though. Sensei is busy, which means I am busy. Excuse me, then.  Maybe he really isn’t the same person we heard about… Looks like this was a bust… How’s the Meta-Nav? Candidate found.Music: Disquiet  Wait, really? He has a Palace? “Madarame,” “plagiarism”… and then “shack,” huh? These seem to be the keywords. But… this makes no sense! We’ve got everything except “what” Madarame thinks of this shack as. Like how Kamoshida thought the school was his castle? Let’s just say some random poo poo and hope we figure it out, I dunno. ”Prison!” “Jail!” “Warehouse!” “Guidance counselin’ office”! “Farm”! No candidates found. Two of those are the same thing! And what the hell is “guidance counseling office” in relation to Madarame? Oh, then I suppose you know what it is? It’s a “museum,” you idiot. Candidate found.  Whoa… didn’t even notice we’d entered the Palace! How on *earth* did you not notice? Look, I wasn’t paying attention, all right? Besides, if the distortions are minimal, the differences can be fairly subtle. Forget that… Look! That shack is seriously some kinda museum!? Let’s go check it out!Music: A Woman   It’s a museum… right? This is Madarame’s? Well, a Palace is a world formed by a mind twisted by desire—remember Kamoshida’s castle? But Madarame already has this. His paintings are already on display, and people already respect him. Huh… You’re right. Can’t figure out how it’s related to plagiarism or abuse, either. Oh, I’m sure it’ll be some weird thing tangentially related to those topics somehow, like how Kamoshida was apparently spiking people in the face over and over or whatever. Let’s try looking around. Racking our brains here won’t do us any good. …Right. That aside… Ain’t a museum a must for phantom thieves!? I hope this museum heist isn’t actually the least aesthetically interesting heist we do, that would sure suck. Eh, what’re the odds of that? But man, just looks at that insane crowd…  Ugh… Are we gonna have to wait in that gigantic line? Don’t be stupid. We’re not going in the front door. But there’s a high wall around the building… Yeah, but there’s a conveniently-parked truck just in front of it. Psh, it’s like you guys have never done this before.  It’s jut not hitting me that this is that old guy’s Palace… That’s why we’re here, right? C’mon, let’s go check it out. From there, we just run through the garden…  But it’s a pretty far drop… Will we be able to get back out this way? Hehe, don’t worry… I have a rope! I’m our tool specialist, after all! So, what’s your call, Joker? Want to head inside? Why else are we here, right? Let’s go.   H-Hey… This painting… It’s moving… So? We’re in a Palace. That poo poo’s normal. Even still, it may reveal something about Madarame’s heart… We should investigate these paintings. …It’s someone’s name and age? What the hell? That can’t be the title of the painting… right? Do you think it’s the artist’s name? …… Let’s check the other paintings too. I think there might be something important about them…Or we could not do that and just run to the exit while picking up all the doo-dads. I prefer that one.  But all the portraits on display here look the same… This is way different from what was at the— Wait a sec! Natsuhiko Nakanohars. His name’s written on the plaque. Dude, I don’t get it. Why’s there a painting of HIM in here!? And more important, why’s his name written under it? You’re right… Doesn’t art usually have like, the title of the piece or the artist’s name? Hm… This is quite the mystery… All right, let’s keep looking around for now.   Yep. It says “Yusuke Kitagawa.” Huh… What are these paintings, exactly? They’re pretty clearly supposed to be Madarame’s pupils, guys. Like, come on. But Yusuke was the only one when we visited… This must include former pupils, even if Yusuke is the only one left… We need to confirm things, let’s keep going.     Yeah, sure thing, buddy.    “The Infinite Spring”? Music: Desire  “A conglomerate work of art that the great director Madarame created with his own funds. These individuals must offer their ideas to the director for the rest of their lives. Those who cannot do so have no worth living!” Well, that’s pretty blatant. So he really is plagiarizing… Dammit, what a phony geezer! So he views his pupils as his property. He can’t even be called an artist. He just steals ideas from his students. They’re all worthless to him the second they stop producing art… Why would Yusuke keep quiet about this? He said he owes Madarame his life, after all… Ugh… I wonder if that piece I praised at the exhibit the other day was plagiarized too… So, we doin’ this or not? We gotta go after him for this! I feel like the Palace itself is enough evidence that his heart needs to be changed, but… sure, we’ve got enough now. That’s what I’m talkin’ about! Not so fast, you two. We should go back and ask Yusuke again. We need harder evidence that this is actually real, and we don’t know enough about Madarame. Okay. I’ll contact Kitagawa-kun and accept his modeling offer. Maybe that’ll get him to talk. Just so long as you guys come with me, okay? I’m nervous… What a good idea that could not possibly backfire upon us. Famous, renowned artist, huh? This might be tougher than Kamoshida. Well, we’ll just prep ourselves until we get confirmation from Yusuke. This is our first mission as real phantom thieves. We’re gonna succeed no matter what! You’re getting way ahead of yourself, man.After School → Evening Music: Beneath the Mask     I’m not so sure anymore. What’re you bringing this up for? I’m just conflicted. Kitagawa-kun says Madarame isn’t a problem, and we haven’t met any of Madarame’s victims, so… what business do we have interfering? …You got a point. I guess tomorrow’s talk with Yusuke will decide if we go after him, huh? >This should go well.        Dammit all!    They don’t let you do anything tonight just because this phone conversation is mandatory, poo poo! What’s up? The cat isn’t letting me go outside tonight so I was just about to head to bed. …It’s 7:45. I just can’t forgive Madarame, but… what Ann said made me think… To Yusuke, are we just a buncha thugs? Yes. Unequivocally. It ain’t like he thinks it is! Pisses me off just thinkin’ about it! Good people have to put up with so much crap while… while lovely adults do whatever they want! Makes me sick. I-I’m not wrong, am I? We need to teach you better insults than repeating “lovely adults” ad infinitum, but no, you’re not. Aww yeah! Don’t tell Ann I called you, by the way. Seriously. Are you afraid of her? I mean, I’m also afraid of her, but do you know poo poo I don’t? Well, see you tomorrow.Line Changes!!!! When we first arrive at Madarame’s Palace, Morgana’s line “A Palace is a scenery driven by desires, just like how Kamoshida’s Palace was a castle.” is now “Well, a Palace is a world formed by a mind twisted by desire—remember Kamoshida’s castle?” Much better now that we don’t have him calling it “a scenery.”
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Feb 17, 2021 21:00
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I wouldn't be surprised if Madarame gifted the smartphone to Yusuke so he could at least not be a total stand-out dork at school. Or something more mundane like have a means to communicate with his latest student/mark if Madarame needed to do so.
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Feb 17, 2021 22:11
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"Palaces are only for the most corrupt and distorted persons!" "Hmm, we need to investigate more, what if this is an innocent palace???"
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Feb 17, 2021 22:43
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kw0134 posted:"Palaces are only for the most corrupt and distorted persons!" To be completely fair, we do see that both Futaba's and Sae's Palaces were meant to represent how they feel about the world in general and not the crimes they were actively committing... but even still, those Palaces weren't "good" and probably needed to go anyway, so it's a wash. It's somewhat plausible that Madarame viewing his students like this doesn't actually mean he was stealing from them yet, but it does seem like a leap to assume that.
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 "The guy who depends on Madarame for all his needs surely has no external pressures preventing him from saying anything bad about Madarame. We should probably ask Yusuke again to be sure but I see no reason not to take him at face value." "We definitely didn't just get done with a case where a bunch of people kept silent because nobody would believe them and it'd just cause them more pain, so yeah sure, sounds good."
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Arist posted:To be completely fair, we do see that both Futaba's and Sae's Palaces were meant to represent how they feel about the world in general and not the crimes they were actively committing... but even still, those Palaces weren't "good" and probably needed to go anyway, so it's a wash. It's somewhat plausible that Madarame viewing his students like this doesn't actually mean he was stealing from them yet, but it does seem like a leap to assume that.
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Especially with the situation that until Yusuke actually sees them, the thieves don't really have the context for the names on all the art anyway if I remember correctly. Also I do really appreciate Maruki here, it totally makes sense he's going to give little public lessons about mental health given the situation and rampant abuse the school has clearly suffered.
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Arist posted:
In the time period this game was made, there were numerous cheap smartphones, and some were given away for free via contract bundles and whatnot. Given the role of a smartphone, many poor and homeless people in real life have smartphones. Arist posted:
Yes, we must make bad decisions in order to make the most of the game mechanics.
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Haifisch posted:
Persona protagonists are not very smart.
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Feb 19, 2021 08:59
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tbf they are also high schoolers. Even the smartest can be really dumb
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Arist posted:
Yusuke was never poor, just he was really bad about the things he spent his money on.
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TwoPair posted:tbf they are also high schoolers. Even the smartest can be really dumb Particularly about things regarding abuse and emotions, due to how broad these things tend to be and how little anyone really talks about them honestly. You have to have experience in these things, and most teenagers have only started thinking about life and the world in general outside of the known for only a few years at best. They can be forgiven. (Adult writers who are as simplistic and vague about the same topics... well, that grounds a little muddier.)
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TheKirbs posted:Yusuke was never poor, just he was really bad about the things he spent his money on.
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Chapter 31: 5/17-5/18: Yusuke Is Cancelled This update contains content from Parts 29 and 30 of the original LP.  Anon: sauce plz Afternoon Music: So Boring   No idea what I’m supposed to do as an art model, though… >Aren’t you already a normal model? I’m pretty sure you just stay still, just… for longer. Don’t worry so much. We just need dirt on Madarame. That is true. It sounds like Kitagawa-kun wants this to be a private picture of his though… Well, I guess I’ll let you guys know when he contacts me again.Afternoon → After School Music: Wicked Plan  Perfect! Probably dropped all his plans just to get you over there. Rather creepy way of phrasing that, Ryuji. We need to find out from Kitagawa-kun if what we saw in the Palace was true… Yo, everyone shut up. It’s the fuzz. Yikes… She got a hold of Mishima today? It’d suck if she noticed us. C’mon, let’s split up. Okay, see you later.  C’mon, let’s get some dirt on Madarame. But man… Ann’s late.  I was thinking about some things and didn’t notice how much time had passed. Thinkin’ about what? Don’t you think Kitagawa-kun has to be protecting Madarame? I mean, they live together, so he’d have to be aware of Madarame’s true nature. The only reason I can think of him doing that is that Madarame has something on him… So this whole “get Yusuke to spill on Madarame” plan is hosed from the start, good to know. Well, let’s go get Yusuke to spill on Madarame! Yeah, that’s weird. But that’s why we’re goin’ to check it out, right? You ready to be a model? Yeah, I’m prepared. Whaddya mean prepared? Prepared for what? (to Maaku) Something seem different about her to you? …No? Same as always. Wait, what? Then what was the point of this part of the conversation!? Anyway, let’s bring up Madarame once Kitagawa-kun is finished drawing. Maybe he’ll be a little friendlier then. Wait, no, we’re not leaving without knowing what’s different about you, come ba—Music: My Homie  I thought it would just be you coming Takamaki-san.I have to reread my old updates as part of my workflow, and right here in the original LP I made a joke intimating most of you wouldn’t understand a reference to noted obscure series JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure, because I am a man of culture and you are all lowly philistines. I have no idea where I was going with this, but I’m sure that joke was and still is a smart thing to say and not completely loving embarrassing to look back on. But even if it was, what are my LPs if not embarrassing? Anyway, Persona 5 Royal! Wouldn’t you get nervous too, if it was just the two of us?It’s the only way to protect yourself from his Stand, 「GROVER WASHINGTON, JR.」 We’re here to keep an eye on you, so don’t try anything perverted, ‘kay? Stop making such odd assumptions. I have absolutely no interest in her as a member of the opposite sex. Uh, okay. Ouch. Right here, man. …Hey. …… Kitagawa-kun? …… You hear her? …… …It’s no use. Man, he’s really in the zone. This isn’t what we planned! We were gonna catch him off guard and make him spill his beans, weren’t we? How were we supposed to know this was gonna happen? …… Guess we just gotta wait ‘til he’s done… What an effin’ pain in the rear end… Perhaps I should try going outside this room… No. We’re all going to sit here and suffer in outraged silence. Think of it as reconnaissance. Besides, I need to stretch my legs after spending so long in this bag. I’ll be back. It’s weird how flashy that door is… And… is that a lock? A door with a hefty lock… What could be in there?  *sigh* Are you done? I’m sorry, Yusuke’s “pained” expression here just looks so weird to me. There’s something really unnerving about the eyes. …What? I’m sorry… Am I the problem? No, not at all. It’s just… I’m having trouble staying focused today. I’m sorry, but we’ll have to resume this another time… Oh hell no! How many hours do you think you made us wait!? I don’t really understand what you’re talking about. I didn’t even invite you, you just… arrived. Sorry, but we had an agenda… We need to talk with you.Music: Disquiet It’s about those rumors regarding your sensei. This again… That painting I saw at the exhibit… You’re the one who actually painted it, right? That’s… I knew it. There’s no point tryin’ to hide this stuff from us. We know all about how your sensei thinks of his students as tools, and how he steals their work and abuses them. Ridiculous… I know you must feel like you can’t go against him, but we can help you. Enough… It’s just as you all say. We’re… our sensei’s “artwork.” I know you’re just employing a clever turn of phrase, but your teacher appreciates that metaphor a *bit* more literally than you might think. It doesn’t matter anyway. I offered my ideas of my own volition. It’s not plagiarism… Sensei is just suffering from artist’s block. Dude, still… …… Kitagawa-kun… Then why’re you stickin’ around!? All his other pupils ran away! Aren’t you the only one left!? What’s wrong with a pupil helping out his master!? There are no victims here! Stop pushing your self-centered righteousness on me! Uh, “no victims” except *all the other victims*? ……! I’m supporting Sensei as his pupil. Where’s the wrong in that? Now, please. Just leave and don’t come back, or I’ll sue you for causing a disturbance. Hold it! We’re not done talkin’ here! Then I’m calling the police. What? I asked Takamaki-san to be my model today, but I don’t recall ever calling you two here! What the eff, man!? That’s not how trespassing works! You let us in! Vampire rules, dude! Stop it! Everyone calm down! Dammit! I won’t report you… but only under one condition. What’s that? I want you to continue being my model, Takamaki-san. But you said that it wasn’t working out today… That’s because I was unconsciously being modest for your sake… But now that I have leverage over you, I can cast that aside. You! Take off all of those clothes! Nude painting time! Oh, what the *hell*!Music: My Homie This will be marvelous. I have my ideal model, you two rabblerousers won’t be allowed on the premises, and I’ll have a piece to submit to Sensei! This will buy me his love! I can fix him! Okay, so, like… how nude are we talking? I *just* got finished being ogled by a grown man, I’m not really into the idea of showing everyone in the country even more! This has escalated way too quickly! Again, you’re a model… Doesn’t that kinda come with the territory, more or less? The stakes have never been higher. Sensei is out during the afternoon while the art exhibit is on, so I can use this place freely… I should buy more art supplies… Will you give me a second here!? Of course, I’m willing to wait. I’ll make time according to your plans. But, please come before the exhibit ends. No, stop, listen to the words I am saying. I am not cool with this. I need you to understand that. Sensei will be returning home soon. We’re done for today. Takamaki-san. I’ll be waiting for you to contact me. Do you have *ears*, motherfucker!? He’s really got us good. You have made a powerful enemy this day, Yusuke Kitagawa! Mark my words, we will not easily forgive this transgression! Don’t give up so easily! …A cat? (whispering) You moron! *picks up Morgana* Mraow!?Music: Wicked Plan  Siri, I need a *lot* of bleach. Calm down! If we take care of Madarame before the exhibit ends, you won’t have to get naked! But if that’s really how Kitagawa-kun feels… then does Madaarame even need to confess? So… you’re okay with the modeling? Didn’t say that! Madarame’s no different from Kamoshida. That rear end in a top hat’s usin’ Yusuke, who doesn’t have parents. You’re tellin’ me we should just ignore how he’s bein’ treated horribly like the other pupils? No… It is frustrating to leave this alone, even if Kitagawa-kun is fine with it himself… You can’t leave it be because you’ve endured a lot yourself, with Kamoshida. …Yeah. Madarame’s the perfect target we’ve been waitin’ for. We need to do this, or Yusuke’s gonna end up just like us. I’m sure that Madarame’s hidin’ even more awful stuff for us to expose. We might have an easier time investigating his Palace right now since he’s preoccupied with the exhibit. Also, again, we need to save me from having my naked body immortalized in acrylic paint! Actually, it’s probably more likely to be watercolor, given what we’ve seen of Yusuke’s work.I did research for that joke! Whatever! Kitagawa-kun said there’d be “inconveniences” if he didn’t submit a new piece. Maybe Madarame is going to announce it as his next work! Well… at least you’ll be famous? Remember us when you hit the bigtime. Enough! We must deal with Madarame, no matter what, before his exhibit ends! Cat’s staking out his territory. Gross, dude. Let’s start after school tomorrow. It’ll be a pain if Miss President finds us on the rooftop again, so where to meet up… Let’s see… I guess that walkway-like place in Shibuya would work. It’s near Madarame’s place, too. Changing our hideout periodically, huh? That’s a plan I don’t mind backing.  ‘Sup Ohya? …Huh? From the looks of things, you don’t seem like the ordinary, stalking fans. Uh…Music: Suspicion  Oh, sorry. I should have been more clear. I’m actually looking for people that know Madarame’s pupils. There’s this painting, “Sayuri,” that was supposedly stolen in the past. But there’s this rumor that it was taken by one of his pupils in retaliation for being abused. Have you heard anything about that? I might have heard something… for the right price. He means no. We don’t know poo poo. I see… There’s no case unless there’s a victim, and if there’s no proof of abuse… I can’t write either. Looks like I’m back to square one. Sorry for taking your time. You teenage kids look like you’re in the know… Here, take my card. Call this number if you ever get any leads on a hot scoop. Well, bye. …I guess we should go home for today.After School → Evening Music: Beneath the Mask     I have some interesting news. Someone who received a change of heart contacted me on the Phan-Site. Said he wants to meet with you to discuss another person who needs a change of heart. I’m sorry, what? All I know is his target is a terrible person… And that it might complicate things if he posted the name online. I’ll have him wait for you at Shibuya Station after school. Wait, you directed a guy to meet with us and told him what we look like!? Why would you not just ask him about it yourself and pass along the information!? This could be any rando in the city! Mishima, buddy, you can’t be organizing meetups with everyone who wants our autograph! The guy’s name is Nakanohara. Nakanohara… That’s Madarame’s student. Wow, that’s convenient for him to reach out at the exact moment we might want to talk to him. Uhhh… good work, Mishima? I told him to approach you. Good luck. Okay, but if Makoto asks, we’re *not* the Phantom Thieves. I know you talked with her after school today, so remember: *don’t* tell her that.  >Yeah, we know, he’s old. Sounds like a student of his offed himself when he couldn’t speak up about Madarame stealing his work. >Well, now I feel like an rear end in a top hat. That journalist was looking into Madarame too. It could be real. Someone died though. No one’s talking about it… I bet it was covered up. I wonder if Kitagawa-kun has heard anything… It’d be great if he could help us out. Ain’t that asking a bit much? After today, he’s prolly gonna be on edge about us. Well anyway, Madarame’s still a piece of crap! Let’s meet up tomorrow. It’ll be our first time at the new hideout. It’s that passageway in Shibuya, right? Got it. See you guys tomorrow. If the rumor Ryuji just spoke of is true, there have to be other victims…  Let’s read.    Maaku gains Charm +3.  Anon: sauce plz After School Music: Tokyo Daylight  Oh, that reminds me… Mishima said Nakanohara should be in Shibuya too. We’re about to head to the hideout too.   That’s Nakanohara. Mishima told us to meet him here in Shibuya today. For real? You guys are the Phantom Thieves, right? Your webadmin needs a lesson in infosec. My name is Natsuhiko Nakanohara, the one whose heart you changed from the post on the Phan-Site. Guess the change of heart worked. The administrator of that website contacted me… They told me to look for someone in a Shujin uniform with a cat… So? Whaddya want?Music: Disquiet I want to change the heart of a man named Ichiryusai Madarame. I’m one of his former pupils who was lodged at his home. While I was there, another talented pupil had all his work claimed as Madarame’s own. He eventually took his own life… So it was true… After that, I left, but Madarame used his connections to destroy my art career. From there, my life destroyed, I became too attached to everything and even began stalking… But enough about me. Please, change Madarame’s heart. It’s not just for me. There’s someone else you’d be saving. Who are you—oh. Even now, there is still one young man remaining under Madarame’s tutelage. I think he’s about your age. That has to be Yusuke. Not only is he a talented artist, he also owes Madarame for taking him in after his mother passed… He is the perfect target. So Yusuke’s got no choice but to listen! I actually spoke to him a few times, back when I was still living at Madarame’s. I asked him if he found it painful to stay with Madarame… and do y ou know what he said? “If I could leave, I would…” Kitagawa-kun… I have no right to say this given my prior cowardice, but I don’t want to see another suicide! I’d like to find a way to save this young man. He has a bright future ahead of him… Please consider that when thinking about changing Madarame’s heart. Bye. I promise not to tell anyone you’re the Phantom Thieves! We’ve been asked to act directly on behalf of one of Madarame’s victims. It sounds like we don’t have the time to deliberate whether or not to change Madarame’s heart. We have to save Yusuke. He’s got a long career ahead of him, at least until it gets out that he stalked a girl then coerced her into modeling naked for him. Hell yeah! Madarame’s just a piece of poo poo who preys on the weak! Suicide… I‘ll never let something like that happen! Plus, we finally got to hear how Kitagawa-kun really feels! “Finally”? We met him for the first time like four days ago. This is all moving rather quickly, if I’m being honest. Well, since we’ve reached a unanimous decision, how about we continue this at our new hideout?Music: Tokyo Emergency  We all saw that Palace. We’ll pay dearly if we assume it’s just going to be like the last one. And furthermore… Lady Ann’s chastity is on the line! IT KEEPS HAPPENING We’ll need to do what we did with Kamoshida. First, we secure an infiltration route in the Palace. After that, we send our calling card. Once the Treasure has materialized, we steal it. Hey, if Madarame doesn’t suspect us, why are we already gettin’ treated as criminals in his Palace? Well, we did go to his house and ask if he was abusing his students. He probably just doesn’t trust anyone. We’ll need to be careful with our infiltration. We need to be careful of Kitagawa-kun this time too. I’m sure that whatever he sees will just get passed on to Madarame. That’s right! I wonder what his Treasure will look like… I’ll know it when I see it. Yeah, because you’ll freak out like last time… Our time limit is when the exhibit ends, right? That means… June 5th. We’ll carry out the plan after we’ve sent out the calling card. So, our infiltration route will need to be set in stone two days prior, on June 2nd. Now listen here. We can’t mess this up, NO MATTER WHAT! OK!? She’s literally going to murder us if this goes south. Yep. Come on, it’s time to get this mission started!    Let’s go rent a DVD now that we’ve finished our current one.  We need Guts Rank 3 pretty soon to start Kawakami’s Confidant (eeurgh), so we’re going to rent The X Folders.  Let’s next head to the library at Shujin and get a replacement book. Music: Tokyo Daylight    …I judged a book by its cover. I’ve failed as a librarian assistant.“I’ve done a disservice to my title!” There may be times when other students give you a hard time… But please don’t mind them. Feel free to use the library whenever you want.   So, now that we’re not being actively shunned by the assistant librarian, we can study in peace and finally gain two points of Knowledge instead of only one. The reason we can do this now is because the diner is now open in case we want to gain some Knowledge and some of another stat by paying. The library’s just for Knowledge now, though.   (Book-Loving Male Student) Maybe she’s busy because of that Kamoshida thing. The principal’s antsy about it too, I hear. If you love books so much why don’t you marry them!? Nerd!  They’re probably looking for who put up that flyer, but they should be taking more care of us. I guess it’s disappointing that even the student council president is at the teachers’ beck and call. Let’s get The Great Thief and leave.   (Motivated First-Year) Yeah, it sucks. Honestly, I’m amazed they didn’t get rid of the team entirely. Apparently Mr. Kamoshida begged the school to leave the team alone, since the students aren’t to blame. Maybe he regrets what he did. Not that it makes it okay though.     (Intense Soccer Player) Quite the contrary. Mental health is just as important as physical health in sports. Unless you have control over your mind, your body won’t move the way you want it to. Now that you say that… I always miss my shots when it’s most important. …I wonder if I’ll get better by going to counseling.   H-Hey! That’s not true! I fight evil for you, and this is how you treat me? You’ll regret making me mad! I’ll take your distorted heart and beat it back into shape!  I wish they’d do that to all the teachers that bug me. Oh, but definitely not you, Sensei. (Kind Faculty Member) Don’t talk bad about your school like that. The day will come when you’ll miss your alma mater. But I really feel that way! Even the internet is making fun of our teachers right now. (Student Athlete in a Jersey) The volleyball team faded away so suddenly. That’s lucky for us though. How things were run when Kamoshida was around didn’t make sense. This is more like it. Ah, there’s our favorite narc.   I had heard you were quite the troublemaker, but you seem to be behaving yourself.   (Gentle Male Student) Yeah, I actually wanted to check it out, but when the exhibit’s open, I’ve got cram school. (Refined Male Student) If you like, I’ll ask my dad if he can pull some strings, and you can visit after closing hours. Wait, seriously? That means I’d get to go for free even though it’s super popular? That’s crazy!  It’s not like talking will answer my questions.  This is just part of my duty as the student council president. Not that you’d understand. Rude.  …All I’ve done till now is avoid you though, so I’ll hear you out if you wanted to ask me anything. I haven’t been able to learn anything about what happened to him. When I ask the teachers, they tell me to forget about it. I’m sure there’s more they’re not telling. Do you know about Madarame, the great Japanese artist? Apparently, he’s training a talented pupil. Now, I hear this pupil goes to Kosei High. And that he’s incredibly gorgeous!Looks like Yusuke’s got an admirer.  That new counselor seems to be fairly popular among the students. Of course, not everyone’s on board. Some think the school’s just trying to mitigate the damage Kamoshida did.That’s exactly what they’re doing.  The Shujin Academy newspaper club has a real history. Some of our alumni work in mass media now. But now I’m the only member left. It’s close to getting disbanded…   I was thinking about heading to Shibuya with my friends to clear my head, but… Do you know if there’s any seasonal goods or specials in Shibuya? (Foodie Girl) Let’s see. If you’re hanging out with your friends, you should try Big Bang Burger. Their springtime item, Earth Burger, is both healthy and delicious. It’s pretty big, so it’s perfect for sharing. You can find a Big Bang Burger on Central Street. Big Bang Burger, huh? Sounds good. Thanks, I’ll try it out!  (Sad Old Man) Right!? The doodles my granchild makes are way better! Hahaha, exactly. You know, I haven’t seen my grandchild for a while now. They say no news is good news, but…   It’s strange… He used to come over all the time whenever I sat here.The cat’s gone!? Say it ain’t so!   (Commercial) The works of Ichiryusai Madarame, the pride of the Japanese art world, are coming to Shibuya! I keep hearing about this “Madarame” character. He was on TV too, I think.  (Gentle-Looking Mother) Hmm… He’s an old dog, so it might be too rough for him to be around a big crowd like that. Aww, why? If Kotaro can’t go, then I won’t go either! Come on, don’t be like that. Your dad got us tickets, after all.Music: Tokyo Emergency  (Aggressive Reporter) Oh, that’s just “editing.” As a cameraman at this station you should already know that. Yeah, I guess you’re right. Besides, I’d hate to lose my job because I questioned them. See, you get it. It’s all for the purpose of capturing our viewers’ “hearts.” Madarame’s exhibition is exactly the type of event that will get us viewers. Let’s cover that next.   (Young-Looking Woman) Oh, I saw “Passion Empire.” He’s that famous Japanese artist, right? I think I’m more into younger guys though, haha. What, are you trying to show off? Must be nice having a young boyfriend. We painted and Madarame… Dammit! …I was his apprentice. He deceived me, then tossed me aside. With nowhere to go, life on the street was my only option.Hey, working under Yaphet Kotto’s nothing to sneeze at! I’m not sure I really think it’s possible… but I hope someone makes him pay for everything.  …However, it has a dark side to it as well!  Yes! YES! The power of the Sun God has opened your eyes to the truth. Madarame is a pig rolling in a trough of money! By the name of the Sun God shall he be condemned!    I hear this “Madarame” has quite the reputation. Is he that great of a man? Oh? Is there some rumor about him going around? I have a friend who claims to be a former pupil of his. Apparently, he’s had a terrible experience… I didn’t ask for the details, though. I felt awkward probing into his life.  It left me utterly proud to be Japanese. Ohoho… (Modest Housewife) So that was you I saw on TV during the news coverage. Oh my, was I really? I had no idea. Ohoho…   (Stylish Male Student) Of course. An apprentice of his goes to my school. Whaaat, really!? Wow! What kind of person are they? Who knows? He’s an art student. I heard he’s pretty eccentric. The only new book available is the one that unlocks the Harajuku hangout, but we pick it up anyway.  We need to stop by Untouchable for a second. Music: Layer Cake   Slight change of plans. That paper bag from the other day? All yours.Well, this is new.   You picked it up somewhere. Nothin’ to do with me. Understand? I didn’t see it, I didn’t touch it, I don’t know about it. We clear?  That modified model gun should be a powerful weapon to use during Palace battles. Let’s ask him about what was inside the bag! …… I could ask him if I had Dauntless Guts… …Should we not? Maybe taking on the Big Bang Challenge would help you get more gutsy…    From there, we buy some armor for Panther and Mona.  That gun Iwai gave us has a high chance of inflicting Shock… in exchange for only having four bullets. No matter, we’ll get some use out of it. We equip it on Joker and leave.  OW Music: Aria of the Soul   That’s good, because as of right now we’re gonna start assigning homework. And this material *will* be on the exam, so study hard! Girls? We want a Jack Frost. With Mabufu! We need it for… reasons! Now go, Inmate!Music: Tokyo Emergency  Well, let’s just head right on in then.  Line Changes!!!! After school on the 17th before the group heads over to Yusuke’s house, Ryuji’s line “Perfect. He prolly changed his plans immediately just so he could get you over there.” is now “Perfect! Probably dropped all his plans just to get you over there.” And yes, I know that’s a change so minor it’s not worth pointing out! But I can’t not notice this poo poo! This game’s script has seeped deep through my scalp and is leaking into my brain, and all I can think is how weird and pointless most of these line changes are, even if there’s occasionally a really egregious line they do fix! It’s just so weird! Arist fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Mar 10, 2021 |
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Speaking of line changes, did the Young Homeless Man say "gently caress that cocky bastard" in the original game, or was he just as averse to saying "gently caress" as (almost) everyone else?
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I doubt that line has changed, but I'd have to go find my old footage to check, and I don't know if I even talked to that guy. I'll look into it.
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You going out of your way to talk to all the incidental NPCs is really nice, I definitely lost my patience that as the game went on
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I'm probably not going to show every NPC conversation, just the ones I didn't show the first time or the ones who have interesting side stories, but I find them interesting enough to include. Also I found my old footage shockingly quickly. Unfortunately, I did not talk to the Young Homeless Man, oops.
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Haifisch posted:Yeah, the entire gag there is that he's constantly hungry because he's laser-focused on buying a bunch of expensive art supplies(and occassional whims like a live lobster he doesn't intend to eat) instead of basic human amounts of food. someone post the dril tweet
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I think the problem with Yusuke's portrait is that it kind of looks like his closed eye is pointed to his left while his open one is to the right. Boy's gone cross eyed.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:someone post the dril tweet  Food ¥20,000Data ¥15,000 Rent ¥80,000 Lobsters ¥360,000 Utility ¥15,000 someone who is good at the economy please help me budget this. i am dying  spend less on lobsters no
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:someone post the dril tweet  who the gently caress is scraeming "LOG OFF" at my house. show yourself, coward. i will never log off
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 Can we stop the posts please guys. Can we all cool it with the gags, riffs, spoofs, and epic poo poo. People are trying to do mental health
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TAKE OFF TH OSE JEANS CITIZEN *complies, revealing full length denim tattoos on both legs* *screams, defeated*
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Funky Valentine posted:
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TAKE OFF TH OSE JEANS CITIZEN
*complies, revealing full length denim tattoos on both legs*
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the jduge orders me to take off my anonymous v mask & im wearing the joker makeup underneath it. everyone in the courtroom groans at my poo poo
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