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Our kitchenette is tiny and from the 50's, so there is absolutely no space for a real dishwasher without reconfiguring the whole deal, replacing the sink and building new cabinets from scratch. After three years of living here my husband bought this dumb Salora tabletop dishwasher and I've grudgingly grown to love it. Takes 5 liters of water for one machineful and 30 minutes, no need to hook it up to a water supply other than put the drainage pipe to the sink. Both of us like cooking and we make food at home almost every day, so it's nice when you can chuck all the plates and glasses and tableware in from accumulating limited counter space. Big stuff I still wash by hand but that's fine.
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barbecue at the folks posted:That Bob thing seems to be targeted at outdoorsy types with money, the fact that it can be easily run without access to running water must make it worth the money to a certain demographic. If I still lived in my tiny suicide cube studio apartment without a dishwasher I might honestly consider one, the fact that it's easily moved on and off a countertop sounds like exactly what I needed back in the day. Of course I was poor as hell back then so washing dishes by hand in a tiny sink would've been the thing anyways... What makes me suspicious is the cartridge it uses, seems ominously similarly to the ink cartridge racket. The manufacturer claims it can use regular detergent, but that will probably be much less convenient / more messy.
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Feb 15, 2021 11:41
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My mom has never had a dishwasher, now that she’s gotten older and doesn’t want to update her house at all her entire setup is rather frustrating. I was trying to push her towards a new appliance suite and was surprised with how limited the smaller sized dishwasher were. I thought there would be a ton of like half width models at the big box stores.
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Feb 15, 2021 13:31
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I wanted to find an ultra slim fridge (40cm wide or 16") but no luck
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Feb 15, 2021 13:46
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His Divine Shadow posted:Dishwashers and washers are great. They use less water & power than doing it by hand. On the other hand, UV will damage pigments and some fibers, and if you live somewhere where it rains a lot, your clothes don’t get dry.
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Feb 15, 2021 14:43
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drgitlin posted:On the other hand, UV will damage pigments and some fibers, and if you live somewhere where it rains a lot, your clothes don’t get dry. We just dry our stuff indoors on a rack, the air in our apartment is really dry year round so it brings moisture and a nice smell of detergent.
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Feb 15, 2021 14:51
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barbecue at the folks posted:a nice smell of detergent. I think you need to up the number of rinse cycles 
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Feb 15, 2021 15:00
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3D Megadoodoo posted:I think you need to up the number of rinse cycles They probably mean fabric conditioner.
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Feb 15, 2021 15:07
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His Divine Shadow posted:I wanted to find an ultra slim fridge (40cm wide or 16") but no luck The market for that would be you and you alone, the thickness of the insulation won't change so your 40cm wide fridge ends up with a 25-ish cm wide cavity inside, but it'll cost more to produce (smaller production runs = higher unit cost). I'm sure you knew that bit though. Out of interest what's your use case for the slenderfridge?
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Feb 15, 2021 15:20
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drgitlin posted:They probably mean fabric conditioner. this
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Feb 15, 2021 15:47
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His Divine Shadow posted:Dishwashers and washers are great. They use less water & power than doing it by hand. It's -15F out today without wind. Where am I line drying clothes for real.
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Feb 15, 2021 15:56
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My fabric softener smells like nothing by design but my laundry detergent does and it's strong enough to cut through even when I use the extra rinse option.  It's not a very noticeable smell unless I literally put my face into a shirt or something, but I prefer it to no smell at all.e: I live in an apartment so I have to dry my clothes indoors on a rack, except in the summer when I can use the balcony and besides the room it takes up it's pretty nice. There's a drying room downstairs that I use for bedding since I can't fit them all on the rack at once and it definitely eats away from the freshness of air dried fabrics, especially if they've been drying outdoors. Can't imagine a dryer is any better. Ruflux fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Feb 15, 2021 |
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Feb 15, 2021 15:56
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His Divine Shadow posted:Dishwashers and washers are great. They use less water & power than doing it by hand. It's super foggy where I live, and even indoors it takes close to 24 hours for some items to line dry.
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Feb 15, 2021 15:59
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GreenNight posted:It's -15F out today without wind. Where am I line drying clothes for real. I have no idea how cold that is but usually in Winter I do it in the bathroom, in front of a radiator, or next to the fireplace.
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Feb 15, 2021 16:02
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I love the feeling of clothes out of a dryer - we never used fabric conditioner when I was young; everything just came out warm and soft instead. I don't have one where I live now, though; we rent, and I can't really be bothered either leaving one for the owner or trying to move it. Clothes rack in the hallway will do.
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Feb 15, 2021 16:17
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3D Megadoodoo posted:I have no idea how cold that is but usually in Winter I do it in the bathroom, in front of a radiator, or next to the fireplace. -26C. I don't own a fireplace or a radiator. But yeah I know what you're getting at.
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Feb 15, 2021 16:26
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cakesmith handyman posted:The market for that would be you and you alone, the thickness of the insulation won't change so your 40cm wide fridge ends up with a 25-ish cm wide cavity inside, but it'll cost more to produce (smaller production runs = higher unit cost). I'm sure you knew that bit though. I got this narrow space behind my office chair I thought would make a good spot for additional cold storage. And I could keep beers there, just have to reach over behind me.
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Feb 15, 2021 16:58
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seems like there's portable refrigerators that may fit the bill but I don't know anything about connecting an automobile appliance to AC.
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Feb 15, 2021 17:09
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The Dave posted:My mom has never had a dishwasher, now that she’s gotten older and doesn’t want to update her house at all her entire setup is rather frustrating. My dad rented out his parents' house for a few years after they died, and one of the tenants had a portable dishwasher. Basically something she would periodically bring over to the sink, hook up a hose to the faucet and put a drain hose in the sink, and let it run. The big issue with that was one of the wheels was broken, so she tore up the linoleum with it, and it had to be replaced when my brother moved into the house. She also completely covered one wall with finishing nails that she hung pictures on and her cats peed on every carpet, so there was a lot to do. I don't think they ever did get a dishwasher in that house, it was a tiny kitchen.
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Feb 15, 2021 17:19
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His Divine Shadow posted:I got this narrow space behind my office chair I thought would make a good spot for additional cold storage. And I could keep beers there, just have to reach over behind me. Well I went googling and found some 350mm "drinks fridge"s with glass doors and compressors, most of what comes under "mini fridge" either doesn't tell you how it's powered or is peltier. Looks like you can get what you're after so I take it back. E: also products at the 250mm and 150mm widths
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Feb 15, 2021 17:35
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TVs Ian posted:My dad rented out his parents' house for a few years after they died, and one of the tenants had a portable dishwasher. Basically something she would periodically bring over to the sink, hook up a hose to the faucet and put a drain hose in the sink, and let it run. My buddies family had a portable when I was a kid. It actually worked pretty well. We got rid of dishwasher a few years ago and replaced it with cabinet space. It's just as easy just to do dishes yourself. Dishwashers are slow and they irritate me.
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Feb 15, 2021 18:35
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mostlygray posted:My buddies family had a portable when I was a kid. It actually worked pretty well. I have a tiny kitchen and I can't wait until the day that I can rip out all the old cabinets and install a dishwasher. Every minute of my life spent handwashing dishes feels like a waste and I hate it very much. I've also managed to break a few glasses recently, which would have never happened had they gone into a dishwasher, so I'm feeling even more bitter about it than usual. And it's a hugely inefficient use of water! Literally no upsides imho.
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Feb 15, 2021 18:58
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His Divine Shadow posted:Dryers are entirely pointless though, ruin clothes prematurely and waste too much electricity. Notihng like the clean, crisp feel of line dried clothes, and in the sun they get that extra clean feeling. Clothes out of the dryer feels like you've already worn them for a week. Heat pump dryers are the solution here. They use way less energy than a electric/gas dryer, and they don't super heat your clothing, more like a gentle dehumidification. As an additional bonus, they don't require a vent, so they can be mounted somewhere that's difficult to run and no risk of CO leaks or lint fires. They are slow and expensive right now, but hopefully they improve and catch on more in the US.
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Slanderer posted:that mini dishwasher doesn’t even look that small, and it’s insanely expensive. I got a countertop one a few apartments back for $150 that worked great (and hooked up to the kitchen faucet). huge help in a kitchen with only single small + shallow sink I got curious so I looked it up--I got this dishwasher delivered by Amazon for $200 before it was discontinued (they're actually pretty light if there's no water inside). Approx ~22" x 20" x 17", and I immediately started recommending it to friends in similar apartments. https://www.sunpentown.com/product/sd-2201w-countertop-dishwasher-white/ It's a huge plus to throw your normal plates and utensils in a dishasher, even if you have to handwash all your pans, utensils and tupperware, just so your single sink basin doesnt fill up with dirty dishes before you can start washing up after cooking. My landlord tried to get mad at me for it later for causing a leak (it didn't, but it exacerbated an existing leak in the sink sprayer, which dripped under the sink whenever the faucet was on) and for using to much water (despite using way less water than hand washing). edit: OK lol i just saw this note quote:For standard faucet head with a side/detached sprayer: while attached to the faucet, some detached sprayers will experience water leakage due to line pressure. This is from the design of these faucets to redirect the water pressure from the main faucet head to the side sprayer. If you have a side sprayer, you will most likely need to install a water line that is separated from the sprayer. lmao ok fair enough, but i'm not sure that note was added to the Amazon listing when I bought it. But it still worked fine after I installed a new faucet + sprayer (paid for by my landlord after I threatened to take it out of the rent lol). Slanderer fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Feb 15, 2021 |
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Feb 15, 2021 23:34
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GreenNight posted:It's -15F out today without wind. Where am I line drying clothes for real. who needs a line? 
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Feb 16, 2021 03:03
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Those aren’t dry, though.
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Feb 16, 2021 03:10
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drgitlin posted:Those aren’t dry, though. Technically they are.
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Feb 16, 2021 03:29
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I mean, it’s called wet ice and not dry ice.
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Feb 16, 2021 03:49
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GreenNight posted:-26C. I don't own a fireplace or a radiator. Oh it's -26 indoors. I'm sorry!
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Feb 16, 2021 04:10
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Elviscat posted:Technically they are. Yes, they dry by sublimation. Freshest smelling laundry too.
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Feb 16, 2021 04:40
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Mini dishwashers have been available for decades. I literally didn't know these existed before reading the last two pages.
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Feb 16, 2021 04:54
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Warmachine posted:I literally didn't know these existed before reading the last two pages. Same. Of course, I also was unaware of combo washer/dryers you can wheel around and hook up to your kitchen sink before SA as well.
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Feb 16, 2021 05:16
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It's just going to be real unpleasant bringing them in. Efb did we all post at the same time? Ugh there was a whole other page just let me die
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Feb 16, 2021 05:59
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I must be somewhere in the center here, I like having a dishwasher, I wouldn't get rid of one, I wouldn't turn away a house just because it didn't have one, and I don't care about the quality of them hardly. If it's old and loud that's a problem, but I've not had one that did a bad job. And I just knock off big food debris, rarely rinsing. Same with washers and dryers.
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Feb 16, 2021 06:16
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Proteus Jones posted:Same. ...wait what?
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Feb 16, 2021 06:30
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Warmachine posted:I literally didn't know these existed before reading the last two pages. I didn't know foreigners made butter knives out of metal until I read about it in YOSPOS.
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Feb 16, 2021 07:23
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BonerGhost posted:
And that's how he became a BonerGhost.
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Feb 16, 2021 07:26
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Warmachine posted:...wait what? This sort of thing: https://www.amazon.com/Upgraded-Version-Pyle-Portable-Capacity/dp/B01MAVR8UW We had one when I was a kid. Clothes don't really come out dry, they come out about as dry as from a normal washing machine, then you hang them to finish drying. Better then washing by hand if you are too poor or have no hookups for normal laundry machines and the nearest laundromat is too far away.
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Feb 16, 2021 07:37
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3D Megadoodoo posted:I didn't know foreigners made butter knives out of metal until I read about it in YOSPOS.
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My Lovely Horse posted:What would you make them out of Butter. Duh.
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