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teen witch posted:Putting “idiot king” on my resume will score me a sweet six figgy You could absolutely spin this into "community manager" for bonus bux
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kntfkr posted:Am I confusing you with someone else or aren't you from Long Island? How'd you get to Sweden? An airplane, presumably. Possibly a boat, but those are more rare these days.
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DrBouvenstein posted:So it results in people either trying to schedule me for things even if I'm not there because it doesn't show me as busy or out of office, or someone makes their vacation event and sets it to out of office by mistake so then we ALL get marked out of office and people don't schedule us for things we need, or it sometimes auto-rejects or what have you when using the scheduling assistant. I used to work on a team that wanted me to do the same thing. I ended up making two events: personal calendar that was OOO, and the multi-person one that was Free. Kinda crappy to do double work, but at least I mostly avoided people scheduling me for stuff when I was out.
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i used to work at a place where the owner purposely let the roof leak through to the inside onto people so that he could replace it as a "repair" which lets you depreciate the cost faster yeah it was an accounting place and he was an unbelievably cheap shithead
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AHH F/UGH posted:Side note - someone on the mod team should mail Volmarias posted:You could absolutely spin this into "community manager" for bonus bux Stick it under 'Volunteering' and you're not even lying.
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titty_baby_ posted:My title is something like Geographic Informations Systems/ Plant Science Specialist and what i really do is apply for grants and mow lawns Wow. When I was in college, they were telling us if you get a major in GIS, money, fame, success were gonna rain from the sky. And then I took a grant writing class. gently caress.That.
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A Festivus Miracle posted:Wow. When I was in college, they were telling us if you get a major in GIS, money, fame, success were gonna rain from the sky. In retrospect I wish I had taken more then the two introductory classes. My former coworker, who had a lot more GIS experience then me, left our org to make twice as much. I know a handful of GIS people who all quickly found remote work upon graduating. Im not sure if its as lucrative as other computer toucher jobs but it seems to be in demand. The amount of GIS stuff I do at work is along the lines of "generate random plots for a survey" and "digitize these parcels". Real basic stuff. In terms of grant writing...just lol
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I was all ready to post about current stupidity where my employer refused to close for business today despite the fact that it was snowing and wind chill was -30 but they came to their senses and closed for tomorrow (weather is supposed to be even worse with rolling brownouts due to power usage). Government isn't always stupid yes it is
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I'm sure I could write up some massive wall (maybe I will, actually), but the biggest and most obvious dumb poo poo is also the only reason I have a job. Database management, ecommerce. Decent but not great database software that was outsourced in the mid 2000s and patchwork maintained without original source code access since then. Limited in what we could do with it, but reasonably functional as long as nobody updated the file processing workstation past Office 2007. Importantly, entirely automated after it hit that workstation, and set up in a way that let me batch 30+ entries together where I'd normally have to do them all individually. (I think my record was 6,000 in under 50 batches. Odd structure.)This was my full time responsibility, as one member of a count-on-one-hand team (for a multinational corporation), until COVID hit and we "needed to downsize" so two of us were cut. The other three kept that side just barely working and are still doing so today. Boss liked me but seniority hit me (the other was a thinly veiled discrimination fire with just enough legal cover). Six months later with 0 luck job searching for anything close in pay, my boss calls me out of the blue and offers me 10% more to come back in and lead a new team. Acquisition went through and their database was being maintained, so he needed someone trustworthy to kick things off. Come back in, sign in, boot the new software. "© 1988“ is my first red flag. Two separate databases. One run entirely through black and white terminal entry not updated since the 90s. The other run through a low budget web app with no keyboard compatibility and no dedicated search for 'select' on thousands of entries in a single unsorted list (ctrl-f works at least). Neither can communicate with each other at all. Neither has import or export capabilities. They had one person running this system for a decade, with a few people moonlighting for one of the databases, in a twisted attempt at job security that just ended with them locking themselves into 70 hour weeks on a salary based on 40 hours. But hey, I'm getting paid to... not clean up the mess, because we have no tools to, but to just keep anything new from contributing to the mess. Very cool. Also not WFH. This is fine (genuinely).
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I've been in IT support/infrastructure for my whole professional career, hobby computer toucher since god only knows when. Bounced around a decent amount after college, so I've seen some places. Also, holy poo poo. This turned into a *book*. Sorry for the wall of text, I hope the bullet points help break it up a bit. First "real" job out of college, a small hospital. Third shift IT support that just barely qualified as full-time. - Doctors are loving dumb. "I can't remember my password." Reset it, then I hear them telling the nurse what to use as the new password. No formal way to write up the infraction, just make a note in the ticket that nobody reviews. - Other third-shift guy who worked my off nights was dumb af. He emailed our supervisor complaining that I changed the monitor resolution. It devolved into a pissing match where I started calling him out on the assigned tasks he wasn't completing that I had to do for him. Super's response was to stop acting like children because he didn't want to deal with it. Second job: learning something new, mainframe OS support! Super high stress and super low pay. They were essentially competing with their own offshore support by rural-sourcing the division to keep costs down. This is the job I referenced in another post that I left for a 64% pay raise. - Guess what? No experience, and no formal training. Team lead tried to set up informal training sessions, but had to cancel after the first one. - Sub-team lead stopped reviewing my work and let me put changes into customer production environments without anyone else present. Somehow, it was my fault and my first-line yelled at me. - Overtime was pretty much required to implement changes or to work disaster recovery tests for the customers. Then management realized we were costing more than the offshore support and stopped OT. We got it back for a short time, then it was taken away again. Told us to tell the customer "no" if we couldn't do something within our 40 hours. - Somebody made the active decision to keep costs down by not installing battery backups in the building. In Iowa. Lost power one day - no more network, so meetings and phone calls dropped hard. Everyone was sent home. I don't think we had VPN software on those laptops, so we couldn't even tell the customers what happened once we got home. I'm surprised that was the only outage in my time there. - Building management had to put up signs "Please ensure your poop goes in the toilet, not next to it." - Fun story about a teammate: she didn't know how to use the headset button on her desk phone, or maybe she had the headset plugged into the supervisor port. Her workaround was to pick up the handset, hold it upside down (while wearing the headset) and talk into it that way. Reminded me of those old war movies, so I started making the joke of "Pilot to bombardier. Pilot to bombardier." She never caught on. - We had a contractor who reminded us multiple times that he had Two English Degrees. Great, your name is now Ted. Guy hosed up a change so bad one time a customer's test system wouldn't IPL, yet my manager somehow found a reason to blame me. Third job: I really liked this one, up until they cut all the senior staff and outsourced IT (also referenced in said previous post). - My only real complaint was how they handled the layoffs. We knew they were coming; the new CEO was the one who did the Wendy's/Arby's merger and had a reputation of being a hatchet man. Upper management got reorged first, then a month or so later so did the rank and file. We had to sit by our desks the whole morning, waiting for a phone call; if you were called, you went to a conference room to discuss the severance package, then security would escort you back to your desk and out the building. Couldn't talk to anyone or grab any personal effects, just your coat. They let the two DB2 Systems guys go, but kept the DBA. One of the Systems guys argued that they were in the middle of a version upgrade. Supposedly, the VP responded with "It's just 1s and 0s, anyone can pick it up." Contractor friend and I ditched early for lunch - what are they gonna do, fire me? Came back to an empty office and an email saying all-IT meeting after lunch. Pep talk about how "You're here because you're the best of the best." - no, you walked the best out the door because they cost too much. A week or two later, CEO had an all-hands meeting and started off with "If a company tells you they're not looking at outsourcing, they're lying to you." I bounced. My hunch was right; within a couple months, IT was outsourced to the place I left to go work there. Fourth job: One of the Big 3 Auto manufacturers. WHY DOES OUTSOURCING FOLLOW ME AROUND?? - Typical MegaCorp change management regulations. Security/Change Admin supervisor yelled at me for responding to questions my team asked of her team, even though I was just forwarding emails FROM HER because I had just asked those same questions. - Accidentally dropped all of NA Plant Manufacturing for a solid 6 hours because of an error in one of our DASD volume creation scripts. I got an award for Exemplary Teamwork, even though I didn't participate in the incident call. My only contribution was altering the script to ensure it didn't happen again. The guys on my team who actually fixed the issue didn't get squat because they were contractors. - Changed teams when the first was outsourced, and my new Manager (boss's boss) asked someone to take over a mostly clerical role that had to do with Business Continuity/Disaster Recovery document and training administration. I was voluntold for "good exposure". After a year, I was supposed to be off that role, which never happened. Got a new Manager who seemed to genuinely care said he would find someone else. Then he up and died on vacation. - New datacenter project started up, which I was really passionate about. I think I ended up doing more PM work than the actual PM in regards to setting up meetings, taking notes, and communicating with other teams. Network Engineering and Datacenter Facilities teams were hard to work with because of distance limitations of the mainframe hardware for certain features, and it wasn't a standard rack footprint. I had to ask for special cable runs between halls to make it work. I think the physical building was about 6 months behind schedule when I left because nobody thought to include weather delays in Detroit during winter. - Completed a big hardware migration project that should have taken a year, but was crammed into just under 6 months. Former Manager had a pizza party to celebrate - right at the same time I had a mandatory datacenter planning meeting. By the time I got there, the pizza was long gone. His side of the house wasn't nearly as involved as my mentor and I were, and he didn't think to ask us about availability. - Over the years, a few people died in the offices due to overwork. However, officially, nobody ever died on company property, they always died in transit to the hospital. Funny how that works. Fifth job: back to being an outsourcer (kinda) for Disaster Recovery hosting - I was hired *way* under market, and the company owner told me I should be grateful I got a raise even though I hadn't been there a full year. That raise didn't even bridge half the pay gap. - Annual bonus was $100 cash. Everybody got the same bonus. Why? Because that was the largest they could give without filling out HR paperwork. Sixth (current) job: I really like it, but I'm definitely not doing anything I've learned over the past 10 years. - I was brought in as customer-facing help desk, with internal systems administration work supposedly taking up ~10% of my time. Internal support is probably 90% of my job, and I'm doing all sorts of stuff like website admin, marketing, Windows server migrations, PBX migration/administration, Office 365 migration/administration, etc. I kinda feel like my previous expertise is dying, and I'm somewhat conflicted on it. NapalmWeasel fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Feb 16, 2021 |
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SkyeAuroline posted:I'm sure I could write up some massive wall (maybe I will, actually) BUILD THE WALL OF TEXT, <generic familial relation>
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I'll always remember fondly the client who would mix painkillers and alcohol in public and be so deeply hosed up she couldn't remember what she authorized. We'd double submit things at two different times and if she didn't notice and signed it anyway we knew she was so hosed up she wouldn't remember and once sober would accuse us of tricking her. She left her employer by stealing their design documents and making competeing knockoffs with her husbands business.
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NapalmWeasel posted:Sixth (current) job: I really like it, but I'm definitely not doing anything I've learned over the past 10 years. I'd say embrace the change. I've followed a really winding path as well, from software QA, datacenter manager, network engineer, application support, technical project manager, SQL DBA and finally DevOps as the database guru for a medium sized software development company. There's a huge pile of soft skills and interconnected knowledge that will continue to put you at the top of the heap in most orgs. School is cool and all, but applied experience always produces the best results and the diversity of your experience counts for a lot, even if you don't use it every day. There's not a chance I remember how to configure an L3 Cisco Catalyst 6500 anymore, but all that deep networking knowledge still gets used all the time. DrunkMidget fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Feb 16, 2021 |
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Laffo the company Im quitting in large part because they gave me a leading regional role then refused to pay me more or give me a title upgrade because that was negotiated with the previous CEO not the new one just said they were a) blindsided by my leaving and b) were dissapointed it came only a day before their new "grand vision" for the department could be unveiled. Said new vision did not include any promotions or pay raises for me.
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Barudak posted:I'll always remember fondly the client who would mix painkillers and alcohol in public and be so deeply hosed up she couldn't remember what she authorized. We'd double submit things at two different times and if she didn't notice and signed it anyway we knew she was so hosed up she wouldn't remember and once sober would accuse us of tricking her. NapalmWeasel posted:BUILD THE WALL OF TEXT, <generic familial relation>
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Barudak posted:Laffo the company Im quitting in large part because they gave me a leading regional role then refused to pay me more or give me a title upgrade because that was negotiated with the previous CEO not the new one just said they were a) blindsided by my leaving and b) were dissapointed it came only a day before their new "grand vision" for the department could be unveiled. ah no wtf man that raise was right around the corner, like 6 months or so of you proving you are totally onboard with the new vision and in it for the long haul and they were definitely going to make it all worth it how could you do this to them, after all they've given you???
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Unless it's in writing with zero ambiguity they're loving with you. If it's in writing with zero ambiguity they're lying to you. If you think you're good coz it's in your contract you're lying to yourself. Work is a gently caress.
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Barudak posted:Laffo the company Im quitting in large part because they gave me a leading regional role then refused to pay me more or give me a title upgrade because that was negotiated with the previous CEO not the new one just said they were a) blindsided by my leaving and b) were dissapointed it came only a day before their new "grand vision" for the department could be unveiled. ben shapino posted:ah no wtf man that raise was right around the corner, like 6 months or so of you proving you are totally onboard with the new vision and in it for the long haul and they were definitely going to make it all worth it After pulling miracles at work I ask for a raise. They punt raise discussions to the next fiscal year, which as far as I'm concerned is a no. They too were surprised when I left, gosh, just... wow, how can this happen!? No counter offer tho Friend I made inside is leaving. They made a counter offer lower than the current offer he had, thinking that the privilege of working there made up for the difference. It didn't E: this is computer touching. If they don't learn what institutional knowledge is before I get there, I start working on exiting since they'll never value you enough to even consider discussing raises Outrail posted:Unless it's in writing with zero ambiguity they're loving with you. If it's in writing with zero ambiguity they're lying to you. If you think you're good coz it's in your contract you're lying to yourself. Work is a gently caress. Preach. It's either in my bank account or i don't believe it Chrysophylax fucked around with this message at 13:41 on Feb 16, 2021 |
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Feb 16, 2021 13:36
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Counteroffers are an attempt to waste your time so the offer you have on hand expires.
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We have to have ‘ team building ‘ days ( on our days off) where we have to listen to some motivational speaker nobody likes and do stupid trust building exercises. We all would rather go out and drink and tell stories in order to bond than untangle giant ropes in a field somewhere to ‘ get to know ‘ our coworkers. If I hear “... and it’s ok if not everyone likes this activity” one more time, I’m going to have a stroke. I’d rather publicly poo poo myself once a week than attend these team building things.
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About the email stuff. I've been getting so annoyed with our call centre employees loving up requests. I just email back "This is wrong because..." gently caress hello Mr. gently caress up. Used to just simply end emails with "Thanks!". I ain't doing that poo poo anymore. I'm an rear end in a top hat till this team gets its poo poo in order.
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I guess I don't really get the email etiquette complaints. First email gets a "good morning" or whatever time, followups skip the opener, signature automatically appends a "Thanks" before my name and contact info, and... that's it. IMO this is fine. Maybe this is just low standards for most offices? Side one I'm thinking of: thank you, web-wrapped-database developer, for not including any ability to update a parent entry and requiring me to manually update 400 entries with 10+ seconds of load time each. Which drags me to the bigger problem: I am the only one in the office today because this database software? Doesn't work with a VPN on connections below 100 mbps. For a 1980s plaintext terminal and a web wrapper. Interface lag is unusably severe below that point. Who the hell designed this software? (No VPN = auto rejected connection.)
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Be formal to people outside your organization/familiarity. Otherwise email is just a clunky chat client. Change my mind.
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Outrail posted:Be formal to people outside your organization/familiarity. Otherwise email is just a clunky chat client. Change my mind. I can't. It's true. Unfortunately while we have Slack not everyone likes to use it.
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Saalkin posted:About the email stuff. I've been getting so annoyed with our call centre employees loving up requests. I just email back I'll typically say "Hi <name>," for a first email, or if I haven't contacted them in a day or more. I'll lead off replies with "Thanks for the update, <name>." or similar. I'll drop formalities entirely if the replies are rather quick. I keep two email signatures, one for internal and one for external. Internal is just "Regards, <first name>". External is Regards, <first and last name> <company> <email> <phone>
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fat bossy gerbil posted:“DELIVERY TIMES ARE TOO HIGH! QUALITY IS SUFFERING! DO SOMETHING!” This, only I've had five bosses in two years so there is no one who understands that I'm actually doing the job of two people because they never filled the position I've been covering for a year and a half
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Due to a murder nearby our office last week they closed the whole org and sent everyone home for the remained of the week. Our admin made it just seem like it was for the people who work in the physical office, and my boss said to find stuff to do remotely. I said screw it and put in for a personal holiday Friday because I wasn't getting anything done otherwise. Today payroll emails me saying they've corrected my time sheet from my personal holiday to admin leave, which is nice because it saves me that personal day but annoying because if this had actually been communicated I would've taken Thursday off too
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Email etiquette is simple, and based on your position in the company. Lowest on the totem pole? You had better have meticulously crafted emails that are super polite. VP? Can respond with “k thx” or not at all!
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remigious posted:Email etiquette is simple, and based on your position in the company. Lowest on the totem pole? You had better have meticulously crafted emails that are super polite. VP? Can respond with “k thx” or not at all! I work in a very small company, and my (tech support) boss (CEO) responds to me with a lot of "TY!" or similar. External emails from her are pieces of wordsmith art.
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remigious posted:Email etiquette is simple, and based on your position in the company. Lowest on the totem pole? You had better have meticulously crafted emails that are super polite. VP? Can respond with “k thx” or not at all! Email reply from a director or above to you after you pour tons of effort and research into an email full of requested info: "k thx Get Outlook for iOS"
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Barudak posted:Counteroffers are an attempt to waste your time so the offer you have on hand expires. Counter offers are a chance to keep you around while they hire a replacement, so that they're not screwed in the interim
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dude honestly a lot of your posts in this thread come off as "wah, i've never worked for a perfect company that worships my godliness" all companies are poo poo and you sound like you've had it better than most, frankly
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are you saying all companies are...b-b-astards?
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teen witch posted:are you saying all companies are...b-b-astards? corporations, too
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Companies and corporations being poo poo is a symptom of the real problem. They're made up of people, this is the real root issue.
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Scathach posted:These jackasses bought a new label printer that prints three labels in the time the old printer took to print 32 labels. But it's "nicer" and "cheaper" and somehow "faster." Gah. They should stop making purchasing decisions while hella baked.
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We're stuck with that though. Once AI starts making companies, they'd never hire a meat bag.
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boar guy posted:corporations, too Limited Liability Bastards
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Having finally dug into it a bit more to try and figure out some technical issues: holy gently caress this database software was written for a VT100 and is still being used in 2021, this is even more ancient than the copyright dates indicate. What the hell is going on over at that site?
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This is it's own horrible thing deserving of a thread. Hiring consultants. Have a great marketing team with creativity and giant brains? Better hire an outside agency to make our plan for the year. Have a professional engineer in your team who has himself created assembly lines from scratch IN THIS VERY APPLICATION? No, pay the shiny pro engineer to be a manager and hire a consultant with no direct experience to design it. Why pay an engineer to engineer? Big insurance company? Ignore your actuaries and math brains. They probably aren't capable of analysis. Hire a consultant to tell the actuaries what they've been telling you for years. Money, meet drain.
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