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Lolie posted:How long after vaccination is everyone going to continue being cautious? I will continue to wear a mask out of respect for the people around me until theres some indication i shouldn’t
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Lolie posted:How long after vaccination is everyone going to continue being cautious? Yeah I don't think it's prudent to drop major precautions before most people have had their second dose and case numbers have dropped to next to nothing. On the other hand up here in Canada early signs are that they're going to be pushing "Everything is fine after one shot, open 'er up" by summer which is probably going to go disastrously now that all second shots are delayed four months lol.
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Mar 17, 2021 22:08
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I have gammon relations who will take to the streets in their mobility chariots of doom and freaking riot if they change the date they said they would open up the pubs and the football. (12th may, 17th June)
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Mar 17, 2021 22:12
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Lolie posted:How long after vaccination is everyone going to continue being cautious?
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Mar 17, 2021 22:13
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Semiweekly post that if you live/work in NYC and are eligible, I can book an appt for you or PM you my guidebook for how I do it. I'm up to a dozen successful appointments booked, and usually within a day or two.
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Mar 17, 2021 22:27
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vyst posted:I will continue to wear a mask out of respect for the people around me until theres some indication i shouldn’t I will continue to wear a mask out of respect for the people around me who's favorite MK character as a kid was also Scorpion.
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Mar 17, 2021 22:36
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Lolie posted:How long after vaccination is everyone going to continue being cautious? Sound to me like you've got the right idea. When you are starting to see that, in your particular country, there is no community spread (ie all cases are imported) and a large percentage of the population is vaccinated, you might start to consider easing up on precautions. Definitely not before then, and it could be argued that even the imported cases are a big enough risk to continue distancing etc until even later.
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Mar 17, 2021 22:41
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Got vaccinated with the Pfizer vaccine from the VA about 2 hours ago. I have a form to fill out if I experience any symptoms. Not even a sore arm right now. I got a sticker saying I got vaccinated. 
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Mar 17, 2021 22:47
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John_A_Tallon posted:That was an objectively correct action for a nation state to take. Nation states live in the jungle. It's easy to say that with hindsight, but what if the mRNA vaccines had gone differently? What if they only had, I dunno, 30% efficacy or less? What if there was an unacceptably high rate of Severe Side Effects like in previous animal vaccines? If they had turned out to be bunk, we had to wait on AZ and JnJ doses, we'd be having a much different conversation right now, both with each other and the rest of the world.
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Mar 17, 2021 23:01
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Lot of gambling going on, the U.K. had no idea that going 11 weeks between shots was the right thing to do (it’s actually working well for us) even the vaccine companies were going mad and saying it should be 10 days. But a pissed off older tory voter base would have gone batshit if they hadn’t quickly got down to the 60-70 year old group and here we are.
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Mar 17, 2021 23:12
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Got vaccinated with the Pfizer vaccine from the VA about 2 hours ago. I have a form to fill out if I experience any symptoms. Not even a sore arm right now. I’m jelly of the sticker
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Mar 17, 2021 23:13
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In in CA and my high blood pressure is definitely not enough to legitimately get me a vaccination. I so so want one but it looks like I'm still months away I so admit to being jealous of you guys able to get appointments
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Mar 17, 2021 23:17
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Turns out I am willing to lie a little
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Spinz posted:In in CA and my high blood pressure is definitely not enough to legitimately get me a vaccination. I so so want one but it looks like I'm still months away Are you sure? quote:EITHER because they have one or more of the following severe health conditions: Some counties have looser criteria, among them San Francisco.
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Strawberry Pyramid posted:It's easy to say that with hindsight, but what if the mRNA vaccines had gone differently? What if they only had, I dunno, 30% efficacy or less? What if there was an unacceptably high rate of Severe Side Effects like in previous animal vaccines? If they had turned out to be bunk, we had to wait on AZ and JnJ doses, we'd be having a much different conversation right now, both with each other and the rest of the world. If the domestic product had been unsafe or ineffective the correct move for a nation state would be to pivot production to the vaccine that does work, be it through a process that was licensed, a process developed independently, or a process that was outright stolen. Pretty much every nation state worthy of the designation has the ability to dictate what domestic companies do in wartime and emergencies (if not de jure then de facto through outright bullying). The conversation would be "how fast can biotech companies in the USA pivot and how can they do it even faster?" and not, "why can't we get some of that European vaccine shipped to us?"
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Unless you're physically pushing a healthcare worker out of the line to take their spot I think you should just get the shot if you can.
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Some of you might remember my recent posts in this thread and in the D&D thread about my type 1 diabetic girlfriend who has asthma and high blood pressure, and I am overjoyed to be able to post that SHE JUST LEFT THE APARTMENT TO GO GET HER FIRST SHOT!!!!!!!!!!! my god it feels like a three ton weight has been lifted off my shoulders. we're not out of danger yet, but this is such a welcome development.
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Mar 17, 2021 23:25
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NY opened up eligibility to more categories of essential workers, might be worth checking. https://am-i-eligible.covid19vaccine.health.ny.gov/ I'm getting my first dose on Friday. I'm hoping for room-clearing farts as my side effect, like that one guy in cspam. I will also be eating broccoli all week.
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Mar 17, 2021 23:27
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Spinz posted:I thought about it and I'm not willing to lie and say I'm a healthcare worker or something to get in I'm not that would just be too too morally wrong I'm not sure how it works, but you could try calling around at clinics to see what time they'll give out extra doses if people have cancelled appointments.
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HonorableTB posted:Some of you might remember my recent posts in this thread and in the D&D thread about my type 1 diabetic girlfriend who has asthma and high blood pressure, and I am overjoyed to be able to post that SHE JUST LEFT THE APARTMENT TO GO GET HER FIRST SHOT!!!!!!!!!!!  I hope it does nothing to her and she breezes past it.
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Mar 17, 2021 23:40
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Spinz posted:I thought about it and I'm not willing to lie and say I'm a healthcare worker or something to get in I'm not that would just be too too morally wrong quote:EITHER because they have one or more of the following severe health conditions: Is bad posting a high risk disability? OOHHHH SNAP 
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Steely Dad posted:
Also Stanford is doing them https://stanfordhealthcare.org/discover/covid-19-resource-center/patient-care/safety-health-vaccine-planning.html Go to “by phone” and call the number. Mom got her second there today. It might be just enough off the beaten path that they’ll have a better chance
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Mar 17, 2021 23:48
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Spinz posted:In in CA and my high blood pressure is definitely not enough to legitimately get me a vaccination. I so so want one but it looks like I'm still months away Where are you
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tanzania-president/tanzanias-president-john-magufuli-dead-at-61-idUSKBN2B92R0?il=0 John Magufuli, former President of Tanzania (and former coronavirus denier), has died.
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Mar 18, 2021 00:01
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Did coronavirus get the kill mail by any chance?
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I’m apparently too young and healthy and will have to wait months for a jab would love to get it over with asap
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Kaiju Cage Match posted:https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tanzania-president/tanzanias-president-john-magufuli-dead-at-61-idUSKBN2B92R0?il=0 heh
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John_A_Tallon posted:If the domestic product had been unsafe or ineffective the correct move for a nation state would be to pivot production to the vaccine that does work, be it through a process that was licensed, a process developed independently, or a process that was outright stolen. Pretty much every nation state worthy of the designation has the ability to dictate what domestic companies do in wartime and emergencies (if not de jure then de facto through outright bullying). The conversation would be "how fast can biotech companies in the USA pivot and how can they do it even faster?" and not, "why can't we get some of that European vaccine shipped to us?" Also, BioNTech/Pfizer is a licensed European vaccine.
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Spinz posted:In in CA and my high blood pressure is definitely not enough to legitimately get me a vaccination. I so so want one but it looks like I'm still months away I mean, I understand the jealousy, but I will gladly trade you my Friday appointment for not having to have a implanted defibrillator in my chest for the rest of my life  But yeah, where are you? My parents both just got appointments despite not really being on the priority list because in their bum-gently caress nowhere county the appointments aren't filling up. Good luck goon!
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Dear Watson posted:I’m jelly of the sticker
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learnincurve posted:Lot of gambling going on, the U.K. had no idea that going 11 weeks between shots was the right thing to do (it’s actually working well for us) even the vaccine companies were going mad and saying it should be 10 days. But a pissed off older tory voter base would have gone batshit if they hadn’t quickly got down to the 60-70 year old group and here we are. The vaccine companies are barely restraining themselves from suggesting that we should get boosters every day with breakfast Spinz posted:I thought about it and I'm not willing to lie and say I'm a healthcare worker or something to get in I'm not that would just be too too morally wrong What’s not healthcare work about transporting patients who need vaccines Tiny Timbs fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Mar 18, 2021 |
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Dear Watson posted:I’m jelly of the sticker It's pretty sweet. I'm going to wear it on my jacket for a while. It's not like I go out much though so I can't flaunt it much.
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Lolie posted:How long after vaccination is everyone going to continue being cautious? Honestly, while I have no intention of changing most of my behavior (with the possible exception of being able to finally resume grappling with my fellow martial arts instructors who have also been vaccinated), after I hit the second dose, I don't expect to be scared anymore. I'm still going to keep masking up in public and maintaining social distancing, but it will be primarily to set a good example and encourage safe behavior in others rather than a concern over my own well-being. At some point before the end of 2021 I might even set foot in a restaurant again, though that still feels crazy right now.
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the rollout in WA state is bs. I'll probably have to wait until May to get one unless there's some inside track on getting a vaccine I'm not aware of.Castaign posted:Honestly, while I have no intention of changing most of my behavior (with the possible exception of being able to finally resume grappling with my fellow martial arts instructors who have also been vaccinated), after I hit the second dose, I don't expect to be scared anymore. I'm still going to keep masking up in public and maintaining social distancing, but it will be primarily to set a good example and encourage safe behavior in others rather than a concern over my own well-being. Very much the same for me. Although I plan on traveling and visiting any of my friends / family who also have been vaccinated. Outside of that circle of people I will maintain social distancing and still wear a mask. In fact, I hope wearing a mask out in public remains a thing because it's just a great common courtesy to not spew your germs everywhere, especially if you use public transit. Because of the masking and social distancing I haven't caught so much as a cold this entire year and from what I read these measures in some areas made flu infection rates go down to zero. G-III fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Mar 18, 2021 |
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John_A_Tallon posted:If the domestic product had been unsafe or ineffective the correct move for a nation state would be to pivot production to the vaccine that does work, be it through a process that was licensed, a process developed independently, or a process that was outright stolen. Pretty much every nation state worthy of the designation has the ability to dictate what domestic companies do in wartime and emergencies (if not de jure then de facto through outright bullying). The conversation would be "how fast can biotech companies in the USA pivot and how can they do it even faster?" and not, "why can't we get some of that European vaccine shipped to us?" A lot of the time you simply can't pivot vaccine production like that because it's insanely specialist and making one sort has very little in common with another. Pfizer/moderna especially are so cutting edge there are I think a whole three sites in the world capable of making them, this is after being written unlimited checks to expand those sites/build new ones. Even making the equipment to produce many of the 'high tech' western vaccines is specialist enough you can count on one hand the amount of places in the world that can do it.
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Lolie posted:How long after vaccination is everyone going to continue being cautious? Are there very few cases and I'm fully vaccinated and we just need boosters yearly? Yeah, I'll probably still get takeout and wear a mask out publicly, but I wouldn't be opposed to running around with my windows down. I wouldn't be worried about doing tens of funerals every single weekend. If the US has less than 10 new cases every day, I'm going to Disney World.
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Alan Smithee posted:Where are you Near san diego
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ROJO posted:I mean, I understand the jealousy, but I will gladly trade you my Friday appointment for not having to have a implanted defibrillator in my chest for the rest of my life
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Turns out I still have a Stanford health login from my old insurance. After checking all the boxes boxes that might arguably be true if you squint hard enough, it had no appointments available in the bay area.
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Has there been much solid research done as to how the vaccines are going to be effected by the variants? Here in Toronto health experts are bracing for a third wave and say that projections show the new variants will overtake the original strain before long. I’m just getting this mounting sense of dread that the last year of lockdowns and social distancing will have been for nothing. Not that I can get a vaccine anytime soon anyway.
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