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Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004
I just finished Laundry 10 which was... fine and it turns out I already own that so I guess I'm reading Chalion now. Hooray!

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uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

Mauser posted:

ok, just started reading Borne and I was like 10 pages in and there's a giant flying bear the size of a skyscraper and I'm in. I've ordered Dead Astronauts and Strange Bird because I'm going to finish this book tonight.

Borne and Strange Bird are really good, Bird in particular was kinda emotionally devastating. Dead Astronauts was uh "challenging."

pradmer
Mar 31, 2009

Follow me for more books on special!
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? by Philip K Dick - $2.99
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000SEGTI0/

Kestral
Nov 24, 2000

Forum Veteran
Folks who've read Between Two Fires, what's the Latin phrase that gets used during the hellish castle's feast, where the lord forces the priest to say something in Latin and eat of the monkey's brains? And does anyone know why the priest is so reluctant to say those words? I'm reading it on audio which makes it tricky to catch the Latin, but it sounds like there's some interesting bit of Christian theology I'm missing out on.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

Between Two Fires: “Hoc est cerebrum meum” (this is my brain), which is extremely close to the sacramental “this is my body, this is my blood” in Catholicism. So they’re trying to get the priest to set the monkey and Jesus on the same level in a sacrilegious fashion, basically.

pradmer
Mar 31, 2009

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Baudolino by Umberto Eco - $2.99
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The Long Earth by Terry Pratchett and Stephen Baxter - $1.99
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anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer

pradmer posted:

Baudolino by Umberto Eco - $2.99
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003PDMMYQ/
Don't be discouraged by the lit reputation, it's historical fantasy and fun as hell.

Ice Phisherman
Apr 12, 2007

Swimming upstream
into the sunset



buffalo all day posted:

this book...is a great book

Seconded. I love this book.

Paladin of Souls is excellent as well, but I adore Curse of Chalion.

GoodluckJonathan
Oct 31, 2003

pradmer posted:

Shaman by Kim Stanley Robinson - $2.99
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C102SPC/

This is the first and only KSR book I've read and it was great. There is a passage from it that stuck with me which I can't find a direct transcription of from googling. Essentially it's the narrator listing the various parts of an animal down to the bones and the delight in which his ice age tribe consumes each of them. Equally fascinating, hilarious and nauseating.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

GoodluckJonathan posted:

This is the first and only KSR book I've read and it was great. There is a passage from it that stuck with me which I can't find a direct transcription of from googling. Essentially it's the narrator listing the various parts of an animal down to the bones and the delight in which his ice age tribe consumes each of them. Equally fascinating, hilarious and nauseating.

You should read Red Mars.

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY
Some good worldbuilding in science fiction thoughts written by the lead game designer of the 2018 Battletech game from Harebrained Schemes.

https://persenche.medium.com/the-design-philosophy-of-battletech-part-4-c85be3757775

Mauser
Dec 16, 2003

How did I even get here, son?!

uber_stoat posted:

Borne and Strange Bird are really good, Bird in particular was kinda emotionally devastating. Dead Astronauts was uh "challenging."

What does challenging mean here without spoiling anything

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

I'm doing a lot of house painting next week and I feel like listening to some Swords and Sorcery as I'm doing it.

Anybody got any relatively (past couple of years) recent recommendations. I'm up to speed with the classics, leiber etc.

Audible availability mandatory.

Major Ryan
May 11, 2008

Completely blank
I’ve just finished A Desolation of Peace and really enjoyed it. It felt quite different from the first book, but benefited from a lot of the setup, though I thought it stood alone pretty well as a first contact piece regardless of whether you’d read the first book or not (which you should, be cause that pretty good too).

I honestly thought for some reason that after the first book, we were going to jump some time or start a new thread with different characters, so actually quite pleased to see that wasn’t the case.

unattended spaghetti
May 10, 2013
Just started in on Between Two Fires thanks to this thread and I’m loving it. Added a load of other stuff to my backlog too including the Northworld trilogy and Redliners. Always nice to check back in and see so many good things recommended.

Every time I think I’m burnt out on sff y’all have cool poo poo to look into I didn’t know about.

unattended spaghetti fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Mar 21, 2021

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

BurningBeard posted:

Just started in on Between Two Fires thanks to this thread and I’m loving it.

Same! Thanks thread!

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

Mauser posted:

What does challenging mean here without spoiling anything

let's just say if you want a straight forward narrative you will not find it here. go look up the reviews on goodreads or wherever and you'll get the gist.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
hmmmm. huh. hrrrrmmmm

https://twitter.com/kthorjensen/status/1373697376372760578?s=20

General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011

This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.
Godddd why

General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011

This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.
I have Twitter blocked but the embeds still load :(((((((((((((

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

That’s so loving gross!!!!!

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
reading about her and apparently there was an "incident" at some point after which her father fortunately removed her from the influence of those people. hate to see it but a lot of old school guys were utter loving freaks.

unattended spaghetti
May 10, 2013
and I’m burnt out again.

The thread giveth and so on. gently caress.

I wish I understood why the communities around sff are like this? Obviously there is a solid counterpunch from a younger cohort of readers, authors, and fans. Kinda screaming at clouds here, but I am legit curious if anyone’s done a deep dive into the subculture’s more problematic corners in book or documentary form.

Come to think of it wasn’t there an Ellison doc put out some years back? Anyone see it? Any good?

unattended spaghetti fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Mar 21, 2021

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
sorry if i bummed people out posting that, it's just that this is the first time i'd heard of it and i was like "holy fuckin poo poo." like i knew things were bad but drat.

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:
Thank you for posting it.

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

BurningBeard posted:


I wish I understood why the communities around sff are like this?

BC they aren't in prison. Fear is the only thing they understand, and they weren't - and still aren't - afraid.

cptn_dr
Sep 7, 2011

Seven for beauty that blossoms and dies


Remember when GRRM spent the Hugo ceremony talking about how much greater everything in the past was while dripping with contempt for nearly every single contemporary author?

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

90s Cringe Rock posted:

Thank you for posting it.

Agreed. It's good to know about our past, even if it fuckin' sucks. Thank god modern sci-fi/fantasy isn't anywhere near as bad, to my knowledge.

quantumfoam
Dec 25, 2003


Holy crap. That's one of the things that was called out a few years ago in a earlier SFL Archives Volume about creepy-rear end SF&F fandom fanzines selling cheesecake photos of a 13 year old girl.

To put things into perspective about how poo poo like that flew back in the 1960s -1990's, a staggering amount of the stories & book series SFLers of the 1980's -1990's rave hyper-positively about in the SFL Archives all have heavy amounts of rape, sexual assault, underaged grooming, torture-porn, and eugenic purity=awesome elements going down in them. Nobody has ever complained or gone WTF at any of those elements.

SFLer's of the 1980's & 1990's mock & tear apart the GOR series but sure do love reading trash that is skeevier than any of the GOR books on a regular basis.

That last sentence pretty much explains why I burned out reading SFL Archives 1994A.

General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011

This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.
Do we have to quote it :/

Tars Tarkas
Apr 13, 2003

Rock the Mok



A nasty woman, I think you should try is, Jess.


Looking it up online finds that it ended due to either a gross poem that saw the author assaulted by her father or her having a pushy stage mom that she got sick of (or both) but she went back to being a normal teen.

quantumfoam posted:


To put things into perspective about how poo poo like that flew back in the 1960s -1990's, a staggering amount of the stories & book series SFLers of the 1980's -1990's rave hyper-positively about in the SFL Archives all have heavy amounts of rape, sexual assault, underaged grooming, torture-porn, and eugenic purity=awesome elements going down in them. Nobody has ever complained or gone WTF at any of those elements.

In one of the stories in Planet Stories I read, a teen girl is aged up to over 18 via an aging ray and thus is now available for the adult main character to date her. This was either the 40s or 50s but was the grossest thing in the issue from a time when gross or racist stuff isn't uncommon

Tars Tarkas fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Mar 21, 2021

General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011

This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.
Can't we stop talking about this disgusting poo poo please.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

General Battuta posted:

Can't we stop talking about this disgusting poo poo please.

So what are you reading?

General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011

This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.
My comfort read Fire Lance

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


I’m on the second volume of KJ Parker’s The Two of Swords. It’s slowed down a bit but it’s still entertaining. And now there’s a siege happening, so classic Parker.

Tars Tarkas
Apr 13, 2003

Rock the Mok



A nasty woman, I think you should try is, Jess.


My addiction to bestiaries led me to pull the trigger on this one, it rules

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light
I'm reading the latest Bobiverse novel. Anyone else?

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

I'm reading White Sands, Red Steel via audiobook and it's weird. If I were reading this book via physical book or ebook I wouldn't like it, as it's grimdark and violent and crude and such. But as an audiobook with this narrator growling at me it's weirdly nice? I walk my dog and watch him try to chase squirrels and listen to a hulk of a man make a last stand against a million beastmen with violence and gore. The opening sequence where they rode the armored carriage through the army on a breakneck pace was almost car-chase action movie worthy, that was cool.

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:
I'm looking for my copy of The Star Fraction. Just feel like rereading it, and I know it's somewhere around here.

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StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

General Battuta posted:

My comfort read Fire Lance

Have you read this Nightrider? That book was jawdroppingly good and portrayed spaceflight in a way I don't think I've seen...ever.

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