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Hodgepodge posted:there is no outside the company in aliens, except, like people are saying, the aliens themselves yea the plot is that all these characters are forced to do something stupid and evil and dangerous by capital and then they all decide in their own ways to blow it all up and fly away. except for burke but hes a dickhead who gets what he deserves. pretty much everyone else including bishop has a full arch of realising that theyre more than the role theyve been forced into
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indigi posted:in a similar vein, Terminator > T2 imo same and same, also Rocky 1 > Rocky 2
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And let's be real Rambo III > First Blood > Rambo II
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# ? Mar 29, 2021 02:17 |
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good movie i > bad movie ii
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MeatwadIsGod posted:And let's be real Rambo III > First Blood > Rambo II i like seeing cops get owned, but sure, supporting the brave soldiers of the mujhadeen is better as a message
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Judakel posted:even if you wanted to buy into this, it doesn't make everyone bad, good, or morally equivalent. so whether there is something outside the company or not is irrelevant to whether they are bad or not much more to the point, this is how the film is talking about "good" and "bad." ripley's critique of burke, and capitalism, is that the aliens are better both practically and morally because they don't have anyone screwing each other over for a percentage. unfortunately the film doesnt go where we would with that, but it's still a great line. i'm not going to go full smg and use his argument that the aliens are the colonists transformed into a pseudo-communist independence movement. it does make sense to think of the conflict is those terms when talking about ideology, though. the film picks up the idea from the first film that the biomechanical alien is, fundamentally, just a human but perfectly adapted to its environment (space, or more to the point, a world defined entirely by industrial spaces). by making the xenomorphs a eusocial hive species, cameron effectively applies this metaphor more directly to the ideological conflict between capitalism and communism (aliens was released in 1986 when people still acknowledged that this exists). as the only alternative to capitalism, they are a threat because they are morally superior and better adapted to the future. unfortunately joining them is unthinkable; the answer is instead to become more like them without going through the radical step of being completely reborn (which is obviously horrific in this metaphor). scott otoh is actually metaphorically at least onboard with going through with being reborn- like snyder he's a christian. but weaver was way ahead of either of them though. she tried to get a scene where she fucks the alien.
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Hodgepodge posted:much more to the point, this is how the film is talking about "good" and "bad." ripley's critique of burke, and capitalism, is that the aliens are better both practically and morally because they don't have anyone screwing each other over for a percentage. unfortunately the film doesnt go where we would with that, but it's still a great line. i mean i agree with your reading of the aliens, as i stated earlier. however, I don't think everyone "within the company" as you put it, is bad, good, or equivalent to one another. lmao of course scott is a christian, you don't marry into his dumb ideas in the prequels without being one. loving awful
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AnimeIsTrash posted:
What thr gently caress is this about?
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# ? Mar 29, 2021 03:19 |
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1987 anime Lily C.A.T. just makes the cat into the monster.
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KomradeX posted:What thr gently caress is this about? In the 3rd episode of invincible they fight a "villain" who is taking down mount rushmore because he believes they were racist slavers.
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AnimeIsTrash posted:In the 3rd episode of invincible they fight a "villain" who is taking down mount rushmore because he believes they were racist slavers. Do they succeed? Cause that would own
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AnimeIsTrash posted:In the 3rd episode of invincible they fight a "villain" who is taking down mount rushmore because he believes they were racist slavers. well he’s not entirely wrong
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AnimeIsTrash posted:In the 3rd episode of invincible they fight a "villain" who is taking down mount rushmore because he believes they were racist slavers. it is hilarious that he is mad about it because he is given the out of "he has brain damage so he is kinda crazy" and HE IS STILL loving PISSED
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https://twitter.com/jowrotethis/status/1376318253815881731?s=19 https://twitter.com/jowrotethis/status/1376333709029253123?s=19 Why are people like this It's books
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how many dudes are there out there whod read all of those authors and then refuse to touch a book written by a woman and why do so many twitter blue check journalists and tiktok celebrities keep dating them
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/jowrotethis/status/1376318253815881731?s=19 identity politics as religion
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I wouldn't date anyone who reads books, either.
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/jowrotethis/status/1376318253815881731?s=19 Someone should let this lady know there is only 1 book she needs unless she's living in the global south with a high peasant population in which she might need a few others.
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# ? Mar 29, 2021 04:33 |
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yeah somebody give her a copy of the Koran
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# ? Mar 29, 2021 04:34 |
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i thought the men dont read female authors had been replaced with the men dont go to therapy trope
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/jowrotethis/status/1376318253815881731?s=19 I forget who said it, but she's lucky he's even read a book, let alone enough books to have opinions about them. Also, E.L. James is no David Foster Wallace. Neither is Linda Lael Miller. Neither is Noire. Or are those not the kind of non-cis-het-male authors they were thinking of?
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# ? Mar 29, 2021 04:53 |
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Hemingway may have been a shithead on a lot of fronts, but dude fought in the Spanish Civil War. I don't care what anyone says, that's worth something.
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Atrocious Joe posted:critical support for the Aliens in their struggle against the Colonial Marines This movie is dedicated to the brave Xenomorphs of LV-426.
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to add more fuel to the fire of "xenomorphs as communists," consider that james Cameron heavily based the colonial marines imagery on us troops in Vietnam, implying that the aliens are the viet cong
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It is all nam as gently caress
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AnimeIsTrash posted:In the 3rd episode of invincible they fight a "villain" who is taking down mount rushmore because he believes they were racist slavers. Kind of reminds me of a ecoterrorist villain in the comic who wipes out Las Vegas because he thinks its a dangerous and arrogant waste of natural resources to build a city like that in the middle of a desert. He then builds a fully automated, futuristic solar plant over the ruins that provides free, ecologically friendly power to the entire planet. The heroes are appalled that he killed an entire city full of people to do this, but they have to grudgingly admit that the solar plant is really effective, and that he had a point about Las Vegas.
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# ? Mar 29, 2021 05:41 |
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as far as I can tell if you're someone who actually uses twitter you're strictly forbidden from dating people you actually like
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/jowrotethis/status/1376318253815881731?s=19 I'm pretty convinced at this point that this poo poo is fake as gently caress and if Jonathan franzen bros do exist, there are less than 10 in the continental US
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Judakel posted:They siezed the facility and started a co-op. The queen isn't really in charge, she just plays her part. Reminds me, I still say the Oompa-Loompas actually run the company, Wonka is just the frontman Aglet56 posted:I'm pretty convinced at this point that this poo poo is fake as gently caress and if Jonathan franzen bros do exist, there are less than 10 in the continental US I'm not at all surprised that twitter people manage to find the biggest weirdos on the planet to date and get mad about Kinda funny, growing up I actually came to think of writing as more a female thing given Emily Rodda, Tamora Pierce, JK Rowling, all those victorian novelist ladies, and one time in high school I attended a creative writing workshop where I was literally the only boy.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Reminds me, I still say the Oompa-Loompas actually run the company, Wonka is just the frontman It is an eco system.
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every movie in the Aliens franchise is good
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Low Desert Punk posted:every movie in the Aliens franchise is good look at this blessed motherfucker who's forgotten that resurrection exists
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:look at this blessed motherfucker who's forgotten that resurrection exists i didn't forget
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i think that political exegeses of alien (the 1979 film, that is) are fun but ultimately aren't that closely related to the movie. particularly in the latter half, alien is primarily a slasher flick and its emotions are mainly visceral. alien is often described as nightmarish, and indeed, it builds itself on primal fears of assault, infection, and being in a dark room. any analysis of alien that is all about economic relations between the ship's workers and weyland-yutani and etc. are, imo, not really felt in the spirit of the flick. to me, weyland-yutani is kind of just an archetypal ultra-hostile employer, almost comic book-like in its villainy, rather than a coherent vision of a capitalist future
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McCloud posted:Now why would a director who constantly had his films meddled with (to their detriment) by film executives obsessed with profit be interested in a book that goes on and on about artistic integrity and not accepting compromises in their art? this is cringe, lad
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Aglet56 posted:i think that political exegeses of alien (the 1979 film, that is) are fun but ultimately aren't that closely related to the movie. particularly in the latter half, alien is primarily a slasher flick and its emotions are mainly visceral. alien is often described as nightmarish, and indeed, it builds itself on primal fears of assault, infection, and being in a dark room. any analysis of alien that is all about economic relations between the ship's workers and weyland-yutani and etc. are, imo, not really felt in the spirit of the flick. to me, weyland-yutani is kind of just an archetypal ultra-hostile employer, almost comic book-like in its villainy, rather than a coherent vision of a capitalist future
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/jowrotethis/status/1376318253815881731?s=19 i want one of these people to explain sometime what they think infinite jest is about
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I said it before, I'll say it again, Resurrection is easily the worst movie in the Aliens series and it's entirely on Joss Whedon"s writing
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KomradeX posted:I said it before, I'll say it again, Resurrection is easily the worst movie in the Aliens series and it's entirely on Joss Whedon"s writing Release the Snyder Cut
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If you like: * Tom Clancy * Dale Brown * Larry Bond * Stephen Coonts You should try: * David Glantz
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