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that article posted:The laboratory granted Bell a $950,000 contract to conduct applied research into the concept, it disclosed in an online notice posted on 28 April. This is like, enough money to maybe model some stuff on some computers and have someone come up with a couple of renders, maybe some scale models to put in a wind tunnel it's an absolutely trivial amount of money when it comes to research like this
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Research that was already completed in the 60s. Transport VTOL with jet speeds is the Dornier 31.
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:Research that was already completed in the 60s. Transport VTOL with jet speeds is the Dornier 31. Isn’t this literally the thing from the Flash Gordon movie?  GORDON’S ALIVE!
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On a whim, I looked up the Wikipedia page for Aeroflot accidents in the 1970s (which is a terrifyingly long page in its own right) and searched for the term "drunk." 18 results Timmy Age 6 fucked around with this message at 03:27 on May 8, 2021 |
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May 8, 2021 03:22
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“while the total recorded number of casualties was 3,541 for the decade.” Holy poo poo.
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May 8, 2021 03:33
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BIG HEADLINE posted:
$950k is a really small contract. That’s like 2 engineers for 1-1.5 years.
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The  was rooted more in the fact that VTOL just won't die because too many people with stars on their shoulders see dollar signs in retirement from continuing to bolster it.
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Timmy Age 6 posted:On a whim, I looked up the Wikipedia page for Aeroflot accidents in the 1970s (which is a terrifyingly long page in its own right) and searched for the term "drunk." I think the thing that really hits this list is that all commercial pilots in the USSR in the 70s had to work for aeroflot. So all those crop-dusters? Yeah, they're officially aeroflot pilots. That's why there are are a ton of hillbilly CFIT while drunk at low level AN-2 crashes.
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Timmy Age 6 posted:On a whim, I looked up the Wikipedia page for Aeroflot accidents in the 1970s (which is a terrifyingly long page in its own right) and searched for the term "drunk." My father was a research chemist for Rohm & Haas and travelled all over the world throughout his 35-year career. He was a veteran air traveler - loved it when airlines transitioned to jets (so much quieter). He loved flying; he really enjoyed the approach into Hong Kong/Kai-Tak. The only time he was ever frightened, when he almost hurled on a flight, was Aeroflot. Once, in the Soviet Union (possibly Moscow, probably Vladivostok) he was on a passenger ferry busfrom the terminal to his flight, & the bus kept stopping at random aircraft on the ramps and asked where they were going.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:The CSAR is also really loving difficult and dangerous and important. Edit: I'm not saying another Osprey-looking platform is the answer, but helicopters are too slow and far less safe from enemy action than they were in the 1960s/70s.
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babyeatingpsychopath posted:I think the thing that really hits this list is that all commercial pilots in the USSR in the 70s had to work for aeroflot. So all those crop-dusters? Yeah, they're officially aeroflot pilots. That's why there are are a ton of hillbilly CFIT while drunk at low level AN-2 crashes. In fact, 100% of the 'pilot drunk' crashes on that wiki page were AN-2 variants. Some don't mention crop dusting, but most do. The AN-2 seems huge for something commonly employed as a crop duster. Two crew, 1000 HP radial, and the passenger versions can seat 12. 
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The USSR was not really known for their efficient crop dusters. 
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BobHoward posted:In fact, 100% of the 'pilot drunk' crashes on that wiki page were AN-2 variants. Some don't mention crop dusting, but most do. AN-2 only requires 1 crew.
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ImplicitAssembler posted:AN-2 only requires 1 crew. But it's so sad to drink alone.
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BobHoward posted:In fact, 100% of the 'pilot drunk' crashes on that wiki page were AN-2 variants. Some don't mention crop dusting, but most do. Having a stall speed slower than [insert government agency] Probably helps Advent Horizon posted:The USSR was not really known for their efficient crop dusters. I raise you the Kamov 26 twin radial engine contra rotor 
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Ola posted:But it's so sad to drink alone. That's why theres two planes.
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EvenWorseOpinions posted:Having a stall speed slower than [insert government agency] Probably helps Somewhere is a video of a small crew starting one up & flying off in it. Based on the foliage around it, it had been sitting for at least a year. Ah, here’s an updated version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy0GMyfGu6s Somewhat surprised that it doesn’t catch fire. PainterofCrap fucked around with this message at 13:41 on May 8, 2021 |
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Timmy Age 6 posted:On a whim, I looked up the Wikipedia page for Aeroflot accidents in the 1970s (which is a terrifyingly long page in its own right) and searched for the term "drunk." My aunt in Sweden was an SAS flight attendant in the very early days through the jet age; even she has stories of drunk pilots (surprisingly Norwegian and not Danish)
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My brain ateuggled to rectify the placement of the nacelles and the sound of a piston motor begrudgingly firing up. It took far too long to realize those weren't turbines.
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My old company in the news, again  https://kbjr6.com/2021/05/06/wakefield-man-recounts-moment-door-flew-off-plane-during-takeoff/ this place was an unsafe shitshow when I was there 4-5 years ago, it’s a genuine testament to the reliability and design of the PC12 that it’s taken this long for there to start being real issues.
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e.pilot posted:My old company in the news, again What are you complaining about, the man got his bag back didn't he
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Lord Stimperor posted:What are you complaining about, the man got his bag back didn't he Probably the most surprising part of the story! Ugh to 4 hours in an Uber after all that. At least they weren’t going all the way to say thief river falls that’s be closer to 6.
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I know if I ever experience a severe mechanical incident while on a paid airplane flight the first place I'm calling is... the county board! 
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PainterofCrap posted:Somewhat surprised that it doesn’t catch fire. I think you might be aware of this but in case you're not, induction fires are relatively common for carbureted radial engine startups; the corrective action is to open the throttle and 'suck' the flames into the engine where they're supposed to be. Panicking and turning off the engine or lowering throttle can let fuel drip out of the induction system and turn it into an actual problem EvenWorseOpinions fucked around with this message at 17:44 on May 8, 2021 |
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Jesus https://www.businessinsider.com/french-airman-tied-up-fired-at-fighter-pilots-brutal-hazing-2021-5 quote:During the hazing, airmen grabbed the recruit and tied him up with adhesive tape. He was then forced into the back of a pickup truck and had a hood placed over his head, reports from both the AFP and La Provence said. 
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hobbesmaster posted:Probably the most surprising part of the story! But in that case the real punishment would be going to Thief River Falls.
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slidebite posted:Jesus WTF. What made them decide to do this? That is so much effort to gently caress with a new person. Why couldn't they just ask him to go find 20 meters of flight line instead of nearly killing him?
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Cojawfee posted:WTF. What made them decide to do this? Rampant toxoplasmosis in the French population?
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e.pilot posted:My old company in the news, again Is the cargo door not designed to at least stay mostly closed if it doesn't get fully secured? I've had a similar door (the aft cargo door on a Q400) not get properly closed by rampers, and it was designed so that it wouldn't open more than about an inch, as long as the handle was somewhere near the proper position after it was closed.
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ImplicitAssembler posted:AN-2 only requires 1 crew. Ah, I assumed 2 since those Aeroflot AN-2 cropdusting accidents were listed as having 2 or 3 people on board. Perhaps operating AN-2 flights with pilot and copilot was just a 1970s Aeroflot training thing?
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Or the second person was removing avionics/siphoning avgas for sale at the destination.
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BobHoward posted:Ah, I assumed 2 since those Aeroflot AN-2 cropdusting accidents were listed as having 2 or 3 people on board. Perhaps operating AN-2 flights with pilot and copilot was just a 1970s Aeroflot training thing? Pilot, copilot, and a stewardess to serve the vodka.
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Turns out communism didn't fail because it is inherently bad and they couldn't make enough food for everyone. It failed because their crop dusters were all drunk and killing themselves and that caused them to be unable to grow enough food.
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Ola posted:But it's so sad to drink alone. Aeronautical Insanity: CRM is sharing the vodka
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Rampant toxoplasmosis in the French population? quote:Toxoplasmosis is a parasitic infection common in France: about 50% of the adult population is infected, usually without symptoms.
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azflyboy posted:Is the cargo door not designed to at least stay mostly closed if it doesn't get fully secured? No it has little windows you check when the door is closed that will be green if it’s latched properly, it’s part of the preflight. Loading bags is the FOs responsibility so oops.
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Timmy Age 6 posted:On a whim, I looked up the Wikipedia page for Aeroflot accidents in the 1970s (which is a terrifyingly long page in its own right) and searched for the term "drunk." Dude, check the Soviet Transports database for "intoxicated" and you'll find even more. https://www.airhistory.net/info/soviet-intro-en.php Lots of "unauthorized flight/unauthorized passenger(s)" too.
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BobHoward posted:Ah, I assumed 2 since those Aeroflot AN-2 cropdusting accidents were listed as having 2 or 3 people on board. Perhaps operating AN-2 flights with pilot and copilot was just a 1970s Aeroflot training thing? Aeroflot/Soviet regulations required the An-2 to be flown as a two-crew machine. Either pilot + engineer (for the forestry/cropdusting/military versions) or pilot + co-pilot for the utility/airliner versions. And it's absolutely right that both Aeroflot's terrifying accident rate and its staggering air mileage stats come from the fact that it encompassed virtually all civilian aviation in the USSR and a good deal of auxiliary military flying too. From 'proper' airline work with Tu-154s, Il-62s and Yak-42s to cargo transport, aerial survey, firefighting, pilot training (at all levels) and yes, cropdusting. And of course most of this was taking place in Russia, in remote areas with extreme climates, no navaids and virtually no ATC. And you have weird stuff like Yak-40s - trijet regional airliners that are also designed to operate from short rough fields. When you have jetliners doing 350mph while also flying a dozen people, three goats and a new set of tractor tyres out of a field in Kazakhstan which is a sports ground the other six days of the week you're going to get a lot of incidents.
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EvenWorseOpinions posted:Having a stall speed slower than [insert government agency] Probably helps 
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