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611 is finally arriving at Paradise, PA after delays due to a broken stoker. Live stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhZ_VnPrzhs
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wth am i looking at
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OMGVBFLOL posted:wth am i looking at a train line. no trains yet though. there were some earlier, and there might be some more soon. (Strasburg RR is a shortline that does steam excursions and cargo services for local industries. Paradise, PA is the location of its interchange with Amtrak lines that are also used by NS locals to deliver freight. Norfolk and Western steam engine 611, operated by the VMT, is visiting Strasburg to run excursion services for a few months. It will be arriving under tow but powered for lubrication reasons today, supposedly in the next few hours. It's a big, neat steam engine.)
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Log082 posted:611 is finally arriving at Paradise, PA after delays due to a broken stoker. This is why the British method of just having a guy is better ![]()
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MikeCrotch posted:This is why the British method of just having a guy is better [swears britishly as my view is blocked by a commuter train]
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Log082 posted:611 is finally arriving at Paradise, PA after delays due to a broken stoker. This is happening live now 4:23 Eastern Time Edit: and all done 4:50 or so Dalrain fucked around with this message at 22:00 on May 26, 2021 |
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MikeCrotch posted:This is why the British method of just having a guy is better It does rather limit the size of your locos though - even one which was infamous for being at the absolute limit of what a fireman could sustain ends up looking puny beside a not-especially-large American engine ![]()
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At a certain stage the largest American locomotives reached the point that having two guys wasn't enough and after that you kind of run out of space on the footplate. 611's stoker has run (and existed) far beyond its original planned service life, plus it apparently had a flaw in the casting. Another fun anicdote I read about the issues with hand firing a very large steam locomotive was that the Big Boy could suck the shovel right out of a fireman's hands with it's draft when working hard uphill. I'm sure that wasn't isolated to the big boy as there were locomotives with stronger drafting (the Allegheny for one). Disgruntled Bovine fucked around with this message at 15:07 on May 27, 2021 |
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BalloonFish posted:It does rather limit the size of your locos though - even one which was infamous for being at the absolute limit of what a fireman could sustain ends up looking puny beside a not-especially-large American engine i want to have tender love with this two here trains
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I like big tenders and I cannot lie.![]()
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:Another fun anicdote I read about the issues with hand firing a very large steam locomotive was that the Big Boy could suck the shovel right out of a fireman's hands with it's draft when working hard uphill. I'm sure that wasn't isolated to the big boy as there were locomotives with stronger drafting (the Allegheny for one). I've heard this is still true today on those locomotives that the Durango & Silverton uses. I've only hand bombed a steam locomotive once, and that was more than enough for me. I prefer nice little oil flow controls, thank you very much.
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Tex Avery posted:I've heard this is still true today on those locomotives that the Durango & Silverton uses. I've only hand bombed a steam locomotive once, and that was more than enough for me. I prefer nice little oil flow controls, thank you very much. Great Western 4-6-0 locos, which have narrow fireboxes, long-travel valves and very fierce blastpipe/drafting arrangements were known for sucking the coal right off the shovel when they were working hard - the fireman just had to offer up the coal to the firebox door and *gone* For instance: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xCoR0b-O9E8
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A bit of hyperbole there in that video. The draught was helping to slightly pull the coal off the shovel when it's being tipped into the back end. If the draught was hard enough to just pull the coal off then it would end up on top of the brick arch which isn't... ideal.
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Clarence posted:A bit of hyperbole there in that video. The draught was helping to slightly pull the coal off the shovel when it's being tipped into the back end. Good point - my lack of experience firing any loco bigger than 5" gauge is showing! Marine boilers don't have brick arches or such powerful draught! I have read other references to locos lifting/sucking the coal off the shovel when working hard, but they were all accounts from firemen, who would know the reality and understand the subtlies behind the words
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I'm sure there would be some effect at high speed when working hard. It'd probably make it actually harder to get the coal down to the front because of fighting the draught to get it there! There is a saying that to get the coal down to the front on something like a King you "need a wheelbarrow" because of the long firebox. On the other hand, apparently with a Duchess at high speed the fireman doesn't need to place the coal at all, just drop it inside the door and the movement of the loco spreads it around. FWIW I've not fired anything at faster than 40-something MPH, so I've no experience with what's happening at high speeds.
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BalloonFish posted:It's been years since I actually hunted this stuff down - as a Brit I first learned about the Milwaukee Road playing downloaded custom scenarios on Railroad Tycoon 2 about 20 years ago (which is where I picked up most of the rest of my knowledge about American railways and, indeed, American geography and history...) Crikey, thanks!
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meltie posted:The fish duo make a great point! Where could we read or watch more about the Milwaukee Road? So, pretty sure where I heard that tale about de-electrification, and I poo poo you not this is true. I got married at a former Milwaukee Road depot converted to a Hotel and it had a little display inside of some Milwaukee Road memorabilia and trivia, and I think it was one of the placards in there that that included that little tidbit.
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Tex Avery posted:I've heard this is still true today on those locomotives that the Durango & Silverton uses. I've only hand bombed a steam locomotive once, and that was more than enough for me. I prefer nice little oil flow controls, thank you very much. I know someone that works at the Cumbres & Toltec Railroad; they use the same types of engines. One is starting service "soon" (as in, this year) after having been converted to oil. Want I should ask about the "sucks the coal off the shovel?"
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Nah, I've got a friend who used to work for the D&S, and that's where I heard it from.
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This is an Unimog pulling some kind of new british EMU. That's cool in itself. BUT LOOK AT THE WAY THEY PAINTED THE AIR TANKS. I love it because they store pressure energy ![]() ![]()
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Island Line uses old Tube stock. They're changing over to Class 484s, which are refurbished London Underground D78s. They've had to close the entire line to do this in order to make the loading gauge fit the trains.
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I love those air tanks!
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Kilonum posted:Island Line uses old Tube stock. They're changing over to Class 484s, which are refurbished London Underground D78s. They've had to close the entire line to do this in order to make the loading gauge fit the trains. Didn't a load of refurbished tube stock catch fire a few years ago? They were trying to turn them into DMUs iirc?
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Probably. I just have a hardon for the Island Line in particular for its quirks. Also because it was the first train sim DLC I ever bought.
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MikeCrotch posted:Didn't a load of refurbished tube stock catch fire a few years ago? They were trying to turn them into DMUs iirc? The Class 230
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Intended to replace the infamous Pacers (built in the early 1980s by putting the body and drivetrain from a Leyland bus on a BR 'high speed' 4-wheel freight wagon chassis). The fact that northern cities and provincial bits of rural Britain had to make do with these bouncy, screechy improvised stop-gaps 20+ years after they were supposed to be withdrawn as 'proper' trains were cascaded from the main lines and London commuter belt as a new generation of rolling stock was introduced (which didn't happen due to the clusterfuck of privatisation and the surging passenger numbers which meant that old stock was retained to ease overcrowding) is a source of significant bad feeling and complaint. So the solution is obviously to lash up some ex-Tube stock even older than the Pacers with a couple of Ford van engines. The North Can Never Be Allowed Proper Trains!
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Tex Avery posted:I love those air tanks! Yup! ![]()
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recently i've been reading up on Jamaica's railways and it's an incredibly cavalcade of failtrains; -initially the engines they purchased didn't have enough power to climb the 1-in-40 grades so they had to quadruple-head them -during the late 1800s it was sold off to americans who re-equipped it with american stock and operating standards. this lead to the railroads maintaining 2 different fleet of knuckle/AAR-equipped stock and buffer and chain stock -the railroad nearly never turned a profit; but continued purchasing locomotives there wasn't really any clear use for -the railroad was built to a full size and standard gauge; considering the mountain climbing it had to do this was seen as a mistake
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Finally someone went and did it, https://i.imgur.com/I7TMzY1.mp4
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.... ooookay thats enough internet for me today
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Baconroll posted:Finally someone went and did it, "do not hump", I guess?
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Baconroll posted:Finally someone went and did it, Hey, that's FRED! ![]()
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NoWake posted:Hey, that's FRED! gently caress that scab.
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Saw this today on Reddit and lol'd![]()
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It's not wrong! I learned recently that trainmasters at my railroad get an annual bonus based on the number of cars moved. This fully explains all of the times I get back to the yard with 30 minutes left before I go dead on the law and get a shout on the radio of "hey, can you just grab these cars really quickly on your way up?"
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Thinking about New York's car float terminals today
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Connie4800 posted:Thinking about New York's car float terminals today The C&O operated car floats across Lake Michigan, and it's the only way railcars get to Alaska, too. There is no overland link to Canada or the lower 48. I should have some photos from an Alaska Railroad terminal in a month or so, heading up there to guide an installation of some track material we made.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFKa8K9qZBQ
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Uh, sir, that is a truck. Still a good video, though. I love Robert's stuff.
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# ? Jun 10, 2024 15:05 |
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E0P_UAcsJBY Here's one of the full-size ones (in bus form) going through the middle of London.
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