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thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

Old Kentucky Shark posted:

Like, imagine if Peter Jackson's LOTR had tried to drum up interest by releasing still pictures of Bilbo's pipe, Aragorn's horse, and Legolas's crossbow? It wouldn't have worked super well there either.

Come again?

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How are u
May 19, 2005

by Azathoth

Sab669 posted:

I don't agree with that at all. Yea sure, readers will be the ones driving the hype train but that's no reason to put spoilery stuff in a trailer.
Even that I'm sure people will bitch :v:

It doesn't have to be spoilery spoliery stuff. Just stuff at all!

Gwaihir
Dec 8, 2009
Hair Elf

thrawn527 posted:

Come again?

The joke is that Thom had a harp, not a guitar, ditto Legolas and Bow, not Crossbow.

Old Kentucky Shark
May 25, 2012

If you think you're gonna get sympathy from the shark, well then, you won't.


Gwaihir posted:

The joke is that Thom had a harp, not a guitar, ditto Legolas and Bow, not Crossbow.

Yeah the guitar is the prime example of what I'm talking about when I say that the teasers were poorly conceived* on a basic level. If the purpose of the teaser is to entice book readers by showing how objects from the books can be envisioned on the screen, then it doesn't work because Thom doesn't play a guitar in the books. If the purpose of the teaser is to entice non-book readers to explore your wondrous new fantasy world, then... you've shown them a still picture of a regular guitar. Not even a person playing a guitar, or a fantasy magical guitar, just a guitar. What's anyone supposed to get out of that?

Like, the teasers aren't even bad so far, they're just nonfunctional as teasers.

*I'm not super bothered by the guitar change, and I actually think replacing Thom's flute with a guitar would have been a really great idea, because A) it's really hard to show someone dramatically playing a flute on screen and B) it retains the high/low class disparity of Thom switching between gleeman and court bard personas present in the books.

Old Kentucky Shark fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Jun 2, 2021

Spikes32
Jul 25, 2013

Happy trees

Old Kentucky Shark posted:

A) it's really hard to show someone dramatically playing a flute on screen

Lizzo disagrees

:c00lbutt:

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

Gwaihir posted:

The joke is that Thom had a harp, not a guitar, ditto Legolas and Bow, not Crossbow.

Oh, I missed that. Gotcha.

bagrada
Aug 4, 2007

The Demogorgon is tired of your silly human bickering!

They should have filmed the prologue to release as a teaser/trailer, especially if they are starting the show with Moraine instead. It would drum up excitement and show off the feel of the show plus how they are going to handle magic. They wouldn't have to spoil anything from the show itself before it is ready, and when Rand starts head-sixing or golluming LTT later it will be a shocking callback to see how much the guy lost it at the end.

Submarine Sandpaper
May 27, 2007


Why would they have LTT cast already?

Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




Presumably so they can have him talk to Rand and/or show up in flashbacks.

Hughmoris
Apr 21, 2007
Let's go to the abyss!
Is Rand going to hang dong, or what?

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound
There is a remarkable amount of buzz regardless in Facebook and YouTube and the like. There are a lot of two hour youtube videos breaking down those five second teasers.

How are u
May 19, 2005

by Azathoth

Hughmoris posted:

Is Rand going to hang dong, or what?

There will be people loving in the background of every important scene, hopefully.

Submarine Sandpaper
May 27, 2007


Invalid Validation posted:

Presumably so they can have him talk to Rand and/or show up in flashbacks.

Yeah but that's like book 3+ from shooting off the hip.

Hughmoris
Apr 21, 2007
Let's go to the abyss!

How are u posted:

There will be people loving in the background of every important scene, hopefully.

I hope they go to Spartacus route, and just have hot people banging in every other scene.

Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




Submarine Sandpaper posted:

Yeah but that's like book 3+ from shooting off the hip.

As fast as they’re gonna blow through the books he’ll probably show up earlier than you’d think.

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

Taste my Ball of Hope, foul dragon!


Hughmoris posted:

I hope they go to Spartacus route, and just have hot people banging in every other scene.

*Forsaken walks down to the Pit of Doom, sees couple banging on the other side of the lake of lava*

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



Old Kentucky Shark posted:

Yeah the guitar is the prime example of what I'm talking about when I say that the teasers were poorly conceived* on a basic level. If the purpose of the teaser is to entice book readers by showing how objects from the books can be envisioned on the screen, then it doesn't work because Thom doesn't play a guitar in the books. If the purpose of the teaser is to entice non-book readers to explore your wondrous new fantasy world, then... you've shown them a still picture of a regular guitar. Not even a person playing a guitar, or a fantasy magical guitar, just a guitar. What's anyone supposed to get out of that?

Like, the teasers aren't even bad so far, they're just nonfunctional as teasers.

*I'm not super bothered by the guitar change, and I actually think replacing Thom's flute with a guitar would have been a really great idea, because A) it's really hard to show someone dramatically playing a flute on screen and B) it retains the high/low class disparity of Thom switching between gleeman and court bard personas present in the books.

I just keep thinking the teaser shots of props are like what they had to show Amazon to prove they hadn't just blown the whole budget on dogecoin

"No we made a dagger, see"

Anias
Jun 3, 2010

It really is a lovely hat

latinotwink1997 posted:

*Forsaken walks down to the Pit of Doom, sees couple banging on the other side of the lake of lava*

Every scene with the dark one is just the dark one being rousted from a harem of pleasure to answer the phone someone threw in through the window when humanity drilled the bore that LTT duct taped back together. "Yes? What is it? I'm busy loving."

Sab669
Sep 24, 2009

How are u posted:

There will be people loving in the background of every important scene, hopefully.

It's not porn, it's HBO

th3t00t
Aug 14, 2007

GOOD CLEAN FOOTBALL
The production value looks low in the 2 second teasers and stills, despite the enormous budget. I feel like they would want to show off with their teasers... and if this is the best they've got.. yikes.


Or we're just overreacting to 6 seconds of footage and a few stills that haven't gone through post production.

edit: I mentioned this earlier in the thread, but why have moiraine and lan say the lines they said in the teasers? Why not use iconic lines from the books? It's a miss on what would have been easy wins. Missing the low hanging fruit so to speak.

th3t00t fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Jun 2, 2021

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE
Aug 1, 2004

whoa, what just happened here?







College Slice
If some variation of "I will destroy you myself before letting him have you" doesn't end up in the first trailer, I swear

jng2058
Jul 17, 2010

We have the tools, we have the talent!





th3t00t posted:

Or we're just overreacting to 6 seconds of footage and a few stills that haven't gone through post production.

It's this one.

aparmenideanmonad
Jan 28, 2004
Balls to you and your way of mortal opinions - you don't exist anyway!
Fun Shoe

latinotwink1997 posted:

*Forsaken walks down to the Pit of Doom, sees couple banging on the other side of the lake of lava*
Sammael steps out of a gateway into Graendel's inner sanctum. The scene pans over her sensuously writhing pets and up to her heavily CGI'd streith-clad form. She looks straight into the camera and demands, "Play with her arse!"

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




aparmenideanmonad posted:

Sammael steps out of a gateway into Graendel's inner sanctum. The scene pans over her sensuously writhing pets and up to her heavily CGI'd streith-clad form. She looks straight into the camera and demands, "Play with her arse!"

okay but that's honestly not even that far off

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

There is a remarkable amount of buzz regardless in Facebook and YouTube and the like. There are a lot of two hour youtube videos breaking down those five second teasers.

There's dozens of multi-hour Malazan videos on the internet, and I've met exactly one person in real life who's ever admitted to reading that series.

Wheel of time was a really popular piece of genre fiction in this time, just as Shannara. Or Sword of Truth. Of course there's youtube videos.

Both of those shows sucked, though Sword of Truth had some inspired silliness in later seasons.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Legend of the Seeker is far, far better than it had any right to be. I will die on this hill.

th3t00t
Aug 14, 2007

GOOD CLEAN FOOTBALL

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:

If some variation of "I will destroy you myself before letting him have you" doesn't end up in the first trailer, I swear
This.

Lan: “Death is lighter than a feather, duty heavier than a mountain”

Or disgustedly shaking his head and muttering “sheepherder”.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




Comrade Blyatlov posted:

Legend of the Seeker is far, far better than it had any right to be. I will die on this hill.

You won't be alone. Pretty sure every decision on that show, including who they cast was made to gently caress with Goodkind. I mean, the main character, repeatedly described as well over 6 foot tall in the books, was the shortest person on the show unless a kid was in the episode. They went full Xena/Legends of Tomorrow and it was great.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





It's a drat shame it ended when it did. They'd closed the rift, but Darken Rahl had escaped death and was no longer bound to the Keeper, and was gathering others to him. It would have made a really interesting third season.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Comrade Blyatlov posted:

Legend of the Seeker is far, far better than it had any right to be. I will die on this hill.

It's source material is utter trash so yeah.

I wouldn't call it good, but I did enjoy watching some of it.

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE
Aug 1, 2004

whoa, what just happened here?







College Slice

th3t00t posted:

This.

Lan: “Death is lighter than a feather, duty heavier than a mountain”

Or disgustedly shaking his head and muttering “sheepherder”.

also the obvious route is they should literally ape one of the early Fellowship of the Ring trailers but end it not with "even the smallest person" happy Galadriel but with female Gandalf basically in full on "do not take me for some conjuror of cheap tricks" mode

Old Kentucky Shark
May 25, 2012

If you think you're gonna get sympathy from the shark, well then, you won't.


Comrade Blyatlov posted:

Legend of the Seeker is far, far better than it had any right to be. I will die on this hill.

I think I’ve said it before, but after watching that show I think Bruce Spence would make a pretty darn good Lews Therin.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





He probably would, yeah.

Skyl3lazer
Aug 27, 2007

[Dooting Stealthily]



Do people not look the same between reincarnations? That's the sense I got because of the heroes of the horn stuff. Why wouldn't LTT just be Rand's actor?

CainsDescendant
Dec 6, 2007

Human nature




Skyl3lazer posted:

Do people not look the same between reincarnations? That's the sense I got because of the heroes of the horn stuff. Why wouldn't LTT just be Rand's actor?

Nope, new life new body. LTT is specifically called out as being dark haired and different looking a couple of times when Rand's having identity crises throughout the series. It's not really clear what determines the Heroes' "default" appearance and names in t'a'r, but they also have different names and looks with each iteration.

Vavrek
Mar 2, 2013

I like your style hombre, but this is no laughing matter. Assault on a police officer. Theft of police property. Illegal possession of a firearm. FIVE counts of attempted murder. That comes to... 29 dollars and 40 cents. Cash, cheque, or credit card?
Same height, though. Rand, Lews Therin, Moridin, all almost exactly the same height.

CainsDescendant
Dec 6, 2007

Human nature




Well yeah height and physical attractiveness are directly proportional to strength in the Power

Vavrek
Mar 2, 2013

I like your style hombre, but this is no laughing matter. Assault on a police officer. Theft of police property. Illegal possession of a firearm. FIVE counts of attempted murder. That comes to... 29 dollars and 40 cents. Cash, cheque, or credit card?

CainsDescendant posted:

Well yeah height and physical attractiveness are directly proportional to strength in the Power

I knew there was a reason I found Alivia compelling.

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE
Aug 1, 2004

whoa, what just happened here?







College Slice

CainsDescendant posted:

Nope, new life new body. LTT is specifically called out as being dark haired and different looking a couple of times when Rand's having identity crises throughout the series. It's not really clear what determines the Heroes' "default" appearance and names in t'a'r, but they also have different names and looks with each iteration.

It's probably similar to how healing works in Sanderson's cosmere setting, "aligning your physical self to your spiritual self". When somebody enters into T'A'R (especially via dreaming) there's no such thing as a physical constant version of themselves, so they appear as however they wish to do so--mostly subconsciously until they attain an actual level of control over the dream.

Heroes likely experience the same thing--though they have thousands and thousands of years of experience in different physical forms.

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Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

---FAGNER---
TEAM-MATE
It could very well be that in TAR they look like they looked when they were first bound to the Horn.

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