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ymgve posted:youd need a global ban though because if just one country bans it then all trading will just move to countries where its legal No need. The crypto bubble is being kept up by being able to transfer money from the strong economies to weaker ones. Ban it in the US and EU, and watch the number of profitable targets sink like a rock.
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Munkeymon posted:backups aren't a solution to ransomware because they thought of that and now they threaten to release your business data as part of the ransom
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evil_bunnY posted:Yeah backups being the solution to ransomware is some a-grade insanity. Even if you have backups, the cleanup is going to be hell, and you'll never be sure you've eradicated all footholds. Google the question and notice that 10/10 of the answers say that backups are the solution. I also imagine people here have been hired to deal with ransomware and backups were the solution then.
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i for one take my security advice via googling and reading ads rather than asking the experts itt
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xtal posted:Google the question and notice that 10/10 of the answers say that backups are the solution. I also imagine people here have been hired to deal with ransomware and backups were the solution then. Are we talking prevention or disaster recovery here? Please enlighten the class what the "solution" is. How does this differ from any other large scale comprise of systems? Is there another magical way to recover product data that goes poof? Sickening fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Jun 5, 2021 |
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xtal posted:Google the question and notice that 10/10 of the answers say that backups are the solution. I also imagine people here have been hired to deal with ransomware and backups were the solution then. yea easy peasy, i will just restore from backups, it will also fix the original vulnerability i had in the system as if by magic
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Jun 5, 2021 21:01
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you dont have to fix the vuln, just restore from backups again
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given the state of average backup, restoring from one should gently caress the destination system hard enough that no one could penetrate it, not even immediate users
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xtal posted:Google the question and notice that 10/10 of the answers say that backups are the solution. I also imagine people here have been hired to deal with ransomware and backups were the solution then. RTO from scratch for most orgs is loving weeks.
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The big advantage of a password manager is that it makes the biggest and least-followed piece of advice achievable: don't use the same password twice. 1. Generation 2. Storage 3. Entry/recall A ton of effort gets spent on 1 and 2 (dice! Use a notebook! Memorize a passphrase!). When honestly the real issue and barrier to using unique passwords has always been #3. The third had always been the hardest to achieve because the situations where you need to enter a password are constantly changing (phones, browsers, in-app, devices, travelling, emergencies) and getting locked out is a huge pain point. Just saying "use the browser store" ignores reality. Password managers are the best/safest solution to #3 compared to the alternatives.
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Jun 5, 2021 21:27
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so the threat is that they'll leak our data and nothing on the internet is ever lost so if i don't patch this vuln i get free lifetime backups?
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Jun 5, 2021 21:31
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El Mero Mero posted:The big advantage of a password manager is that it makes the biggest and least-followed piece of advice achievable: don't use the same password twice. are you aware that browser pw managers can suggest strong, randomised passwords these days
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Achmed Jones posted:you dont have to fix the vuln, just restore from backups again at an msp I worked at I had a coworker assigned to a client who did just that 2x before management sent someone who knew what they were doing to lock things down
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cinci zoo sniper posted:are you aware that browser pw managers can suggest strong, randomised passwords these days they normally don't have good workflows for entry and recall for things other than websites, though. even if a password is _also_ used for a website, it's a lot easier to dig my native instruments password out of 1pass than it is safari, chrome, etc
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Jun 5, 2021 22:03
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Achmed Jones posted:they normally don't have good workflows for entry and recall for things other than websites, though. even if a password is _also_ used for a website, it's a lot easier to dig my native instruments password out of 1pass than it is safari, chrome, etc yeah if i used chrome passwords and wanted to sign into a desktop app i'd have to copy/paste from passwords.google.com to said desktop app, then clear from clipboard history 1password i just drag
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Jun 5, 2021 22:12
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I've stored disk encryption passwords in 1password using the mobile stuff to access the desktop stuff and I sure as hell am not counting on my browser storage to handle these cases well.
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Jun 5, 2021 22:48
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Achmed Jones posted:they normally don't have good workflows for entry and recall for things other than websites, though. even if a password is _also_ used for a website, it's a lot easier to dig my native instruments password out of 1pass than it is safari, chrome, etc Buff Hardback posted:yeah if i used chrome passwords and wanted to sign into a desktop app i'd have to copy/paste from passwords.google.com to said desktop app, then clear from clipboard history that is as much as i said already, yes, that browser pw manager sucks if your use case is non-browser desktop application. i just don't believe something like that is a common use case for an average person these days cinci zoo sniper posted:either way it boils down to if you ever need app password on a normal computer, if not then just use chrome/edge/keychain implementation
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cinci zoo sniper posted:that is as much as i said already, yes, that browser pw manager sucks if your use case is non-browser desktop application. i just don't believe something like that is a common use case for an average person these days My VPN client.
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Jun 6, 2021 00:36
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Yeah the browser password managers seem okay in themselves nowadays but once you take backup/syncing into consideration I don't think it really makes sense to use them compared to other options.
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Jun 6, 2021 00:38
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Browser password managers break down as soon as you have a computer and a phone with different browsers, you don’t even need to get mobile/desktop apps involved. I use bitwarden and it seems to be fine? it doesn’t inject anything until I click on something in the chrome area of the browser (or via the iPhone keychain stuff), though I should do the dev tools thing and see if it actually does page injection. anyone know offhand?
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Jun 6, 2021 01:31
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edge syncs its passwords to microsoft authenticator which you can use as an ios password manager
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Using your phone's built in password manager you still can't sign-in to some stupid app that logs you out a few months after you start using it so it's not like we're starting from a strong technical position in the first place.
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Gaukler posted:Browser password managers break down as soon as you have a computer and a phone with different browsers, you don’t even need to get mobile/desktop apps involved. I still scratch my head at people using the browser on a phone at all. What do you do in the browser that you can't have a better experience with the corresponding app? Even the people in my life without computers rarely use a browser for anything.
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Jun 6, 2021 02:04
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Sickening posted:I still scratch my head at people using the browser on a phone at all. What do you do in the browser that you can't have a better experience with the corresponding app? Even the people in my life without computers rarely use a browser for anything.
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Sickening posted:I still scratch my head at people using the browser on a phone at all. What do you do in the browser that you can't have a better experience with the corresponding app? Even the people in my life without computers rarely use a browser for anything. Mostly for random poo poo I usually want to do on my desktop and don’t do often enough on my phone to warrant installing an app for? on the flip side I’m not sure why everyone loves installing apps for everything when all it’s doing is wrapping a web view anyway, we’ve already got browsers
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Gaukler posted:I’m not sure why everyone loves installing apps for everything when all it’s doing is wrapping a web view anyway won't somebody please think of the mobile 'developers' employment
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Methanar posted:won't somebody please think of the mobile 'developers' employment I am, I want them gone
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i already have the browser. if i can't comfortably do it with that, it's probably not something i need to do on my phone
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Sickening posted:I still scratch my head at people using the browser on a phone at all. What do you do in the browser that you can't have a better experience with the corresponding app? Even the people in my life without computers rarely use a browser for anything. 
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Sickening posted:I still scratch my head at people using the browser on a phone at all. What do you do in the browser that you can't have a better experience with the corresponding app? Even the people in my life without computers rarely use a browser for anything. Is the app available on f-droid?
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Sickening posted:I still scratch my head at people using the browser on a phone at all. What do you do in the browser that you can't have a better experience with the corresponding app? Even the people in my life without computers rarely use a browser for anything. youtube won't show me ads
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Sickening posted:I still scratch my head at people using the browser on a phone at all. What do you do in the browser that you can't have a better experience with the corresponding app? Even the people in my life without computers rarely use a browser for anything.
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Jun 6, 2021 04:10
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Chris Knight posted:why the gently caress do I need an "app" for a goddamn website I need you to calm down bucko.
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Jun 6, 2021 04:15
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do i look like i know what an apk is
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Sickening posted:I still scratch my head at people using the browser on a phone at all. What do you do in the browser that you can't have a better experience with the corresponding app? Even the people in my life without computers rarely use a browser for anything. Ah yes, the native app that's definitely not just a cross platform webkit wrapper. I am delighted to do so always!
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Come on, it's not just a webkit wrapper. It's a webkit wrapper that also scrapes a bunch of identifiers that ordinary web pages aren't allowed to access.
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Jabor posted:Come on, it's not just a webkit wrapper. It's also by design completely controlled by Apple in the case of ios and may be removed for any or no reason arbitrarily without warning and without recourse as a feature 
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Jun 6, 2021 08:59
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Sickening posted:I still scratch my head at people using the browser on a phone at all. What do you do in the browser that you can't have a better experience with the corresponding app? Even the people in my life without computers rarely use a browser for anything. do you also sign up for the newsletter when prompted
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Jun 6, 2021 09:01
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its not just a newsletter its a FREE one
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Sickening posted:I still scratch my head at people using the browser on a phone at all. What do you do in the browser that you can't have a better experience with the corresponding app? Even the people in my life without computers rarely use a browser for anything. I can't be the 1 millionth visitor for a free ipod nano in an app
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