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Yes now is the best time to buy new, relatively guilt free. As far as checking when features became available, use wikipedia to find out when a generation came out, then read that year's review.
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Guinness posted:Buying new and taking care of it and driving it for many years is also a BFC-approved approach. Especially an economy car like a Kia with 0% financing. Edit: Fair enough VVV Nitrox fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Jun 17, 2021 |
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Nitrox posted:I'm buying via business entity directly from Manheim, while exercising a number of unique tax deductions. New car is not an option. it would probably benefit you to say this up front rather than just saying you "prefer" to buy used edmunds and similar sites have features by trim and model year but there's not a great way to get a dump of the data.
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Jun 17, 2021 22:03
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Jack B Nimble posted:Yes now is the best time to buy new, relatively guilt free. As far as checking when features became available, use wikipedia to find out when a generation came out, then read that year's review. Seriously. For shits and giggles, the comp to my 2013 Mazda 2 5MT with 50k mi is selling for $12k. And the one for sale is the wrong color. I spent $15k for this car new. Not that you can buy a new Mazda2, but if you're buying an 8 year old $15k econobox (even if it is the best econobox) for $3k under the new price (now, sans warranty), you're loving nuts.
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Jun 17, 2021 22:31
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Are the old Mercedes A class reliable? The tall, round ones.
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Jun 18, 2021 14:35
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The ones that failed the moose test because MB thought they could get away with no TCS?
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Jun 18, 2021 15:08
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Question about owning a new car, since I bought in another state I didn’t get an inspection sticker. Will bringing it to a Toyota dealer in my state inspect it for free?
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ethanol posted:Question about owning a new car, since I bought in another state I didn’t get an inspection sticker. Will bringing it to a Toyota dealer in my state inspect it for free? Call them and find out.
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Jun 18, 2021 15:15
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State inspections are not free.
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Jun 18, 2021 15:16
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ethanol posted:Question about owning a new car, since I bought in another state I didn’t get an inspection sticker. Will bringing it to a Toyota dealer in my state inspect it for free?
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Jun 18, 2021 15:18
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Ok thanks, I’ll call I just wanted to see if it was normal
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Jun 18, 2021 15:30
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At least in Mass a lot of dealers don't do state inspections.
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Most state inspections put money right into state accounts so even if they do it on site and could or wanted to comp labor they are going to owe the state the fee. That's why I figure it's a question of how desperate they are to get you in their books. I.e. if you get first oil change coupons with your signing paperwork from a distant dealer but you want to use your local dealer they will often honor those to get you in the door.
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Jun 18, 2021 15:36
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luminalflux posted:The ones that failed the moose test because MB thought they could get away with no TCS? I remember the very first ones used to topple in sharp corners, but they fixed that. Is that the moose test?
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This is a pretty good reminder of the state of automatic safety systems. For drivers who are attentive and generally safe without them, they can be an additional layer of safety. But, automated collision avoidance is way too unreliable to depend on as anything but a backup, it's really unreliable for non-car road users, and the marketing is way out in front of what the engineering can actually do. https://twitter.com/j_mindell/status/1405540214743859205
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uguu posted:I remember the very first ones used to topple in sharp corners, but they fixed that. Yeah it’s a Swedish motor journalism test where you do a quick double lane change as if you are going down a rural two lane road, a moose walks out in your lane but there’s oncoming traffic so you go into the oncoming lane to avoid the big thing with antlers and then back into the right lane to avoid Sven Andersson in a clapped out 245 doing 120 km/h. If you’re in an A class or a Jeep you end up doing a barrel roll into the ditch
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Space Gopher posted:This is a pretty good reminder of the state of automatic safety systems. For drivers who are attentive and generally safe without them, they can be an additional layer of safety. But, automated collision avoidance is way too unreliable to depend on as anything but a backup, it's really unreliable for non-car road users, and the marketing is way out in front of what the engineering can actually do. Why does it look for pedestrians in particular? Doesn't it have some kind of radar that tells computers about an obstruction ahead and to slow down. Who gives a dick how many umbrellas they have
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Jun 18, 2021 19:58
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If you’re walking around with multiple umbrellas you should be run over tbh.
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Nitrox posted:Why does it look for pedestrians in particular? Doesn't it have some kind of radar that tells computers about an obstruction ahead and to slow down. Who gives a dick how many umbrellas they have
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Nitrox posted:Why does it look for pedestrians in particular? Doesn't it have some kind of radar that tells computers about an obstruction ahead and to slow down. Who gives a dick how many umbrellas they have It's really hard for computer vision, radar, or lidar to discriminate between background clutter and actual obstructions in an uncontrolled environment like a public street. It seems easy for you because your brain and eyes have evolved to do it automatically over millions of years. Cars usually just classify things they're interested in, and ignore the rest, so they don't freak out at every funny-shaped bush or garbage bag. It's relatively easy to train a machine learning system to identify objects - you just feed it tons of tagged examples ("here are ten thousand pictures with pedestrians in them at this location, here are ten thousand pictures without pedestrians" - you help google do this every time you solve reCAPTCHA). But, if your training data was, say, all people on the engineering team, and none of them were holding anything or pushing a stroller, then the ML system will faithfully identify only what it was trained to see. End result: inattentive drivers learn to trust the system that works some of the time, on the right people, stare at their phone because they've got MAGIC ACTIVE SAFETY that makes everything all right, and then end up prying what used to be a baby carriage or an unusually tall person or someone with the "wrong" skin tone off the front of their car.
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Jun 18, 2021 20:47
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 This 2008 bmw 328i has 5K miles and is listed at $3,500. Listing says quote:Has a small oil leak, the red plastic part on the tail light is broken & the bumper is dented I know BMWs have a high maintenance cost, but is this still a good deal?
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Jun 19, 2021 05:30
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That is quite the rolling dumpster fire. I would say no but that's me, depends on how much work you can do yourself. Since I have no garage or workshop and can't do any of that stuff myself, I would run far away.
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Jun 19, 2021 07:27
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If you have to ask that question, you don't want it.
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Jun 19, 2021 07:41
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Also, I know it's a given with this whole car, but more than just the bumper and light assembly are significantly damaged in that photo. The metal quarter panel is clearly misaligned with the trunk.
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Jun 19, 2021 08:13
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A good (though unfortunate) rule of thumb is that any damaged car for sale is NOT a good deal. They are most likely sellimg it because it is not worth it to fix. Otherwise they would have fixed it themselves and sold it/kept driving it. While that rule can get a bit blurry in terms of cosmetics/ features (car with crappy paint, blown out speakers, rough interior, etc.) It's still a generally poor indication for how fhe car was treated. In this case, the car has serious damage from an accident that must be addressed before driving it, AND a pre-existing and unexplained oil leak. That would be a bad deal for $1000 because it's definitely looking at more than $5k worth of work to make it reliable in the short term (~6 months). Please do not buy it.
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Jun 19, 2021 16:00
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Someone put it best, but if you have to ask, it's definitely not for you. People who understand the body work and the costs involved are either bought it already or passed on.
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Jun 19, 2021 19:11
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zedprime posted:cross section of a cardboard box or clump of plastic bags and a human can look similar and activating To human eyes, too! Several years ago a friend of mine was riding his bike and was hit, ran over, and dragged by a young woman in a sedan. People ran out into the street trying to stop the woman, but she kept driving for a block. She later told the cops that she thought she hit a cardboard box, and didn't stop because she was afraid of being carjacked. He spent months in a hospital and she got off Scott free. Whenever I talk to him I make a bad joke about how square he's looking.
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LittleFuryThings posted:
is this a typo? Because my immediate response is that it's either a typo or this thing literally sat in a junkyard for a decade.
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Jun 19, 2021 21:44
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bird with big dick posted:is this a typo? Vanos (and everything else) doesn’t like sitting that long.
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Jun 19, 2021 21:48
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bird with big dick posted:is this a typo? not a typo, it is actually 5k. But I will not be going to look at it. Thanks goons
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It's not a typo but you haven't seen it yet....My guess is it's not really 5k miles when you physically look at the odometer in person
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They’re probably looking at 5k on the trip odometer.
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JnnyThndrs posted:I feel ya, I had a 2012 Fit and loved that car until I changed jobs and had a 40 mile commute each way, primarily on a high-speed freeway that runs about 75-80 each way.
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Jun 21, 2021 22:18
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mobbly you have a manual which helps a lot
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:mobbly you have a manual which helps a lot Yeah, I cursed myself for not searching farther afield for a stick at least 5x a day for a year. Most Honda dealers had like three Fits, with only one of them the Sport model(which I wanted), none of them stick shifts.
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If you're buying a car with 100hp, for the love of God, don't buy the auto. Signed, a mazda2 5mt owner
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nm posted:If you're buying a car with 100hp, for the love of God, don't buy the auto. This. Also disregard what any occupants of the vehicle might say about how high you rev the thing.
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nm posted:If you're buying a car with 100hp, for the love of God, don't buy the auto. Not 100hp, but the exception to the rule was my Scion tC which had an absurdly low final drive ratio on the manual. It was not anemic but it would normally be doing 4k RPMs at normal freeway cruising speeds. Toyota has to be the exception to the "never buy a first model year car" rule. Whenever they enter a new market segment they tend to over-engineer that car. My tC was the best dollar value I've ever had in a car, aside from the gearing issue.
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My 2004 Ford Ranger is essentially dead, it has some issues with one of the timing chains. It... technically runs? But it sure as gently caress sounds terrible and frankly I'll probably be lucky if it even makes it home from the service center. Gonna miss you, bud, we had a lot of good times. So I'm about to go car shopping without really having any idea of what's even out there these days. We also have an aging Toyota Matrix which my wife uses to get to work and it's also our "road trip" vehicle. So, with the Ranger's impending doom we're thinking of replacing it with a new main road trip car, and then sometime down the road when the Matrix starts acting old, maybe replacing it with another used truck so our ability to handle most vehicle-related things is restored. The "truck" part of the truck has been handy but tbh we don't actually use it that frequently. I think we're going to be fine without a vehicle that may not have that much storage/hauling capacity for a while, maybe we'll find that we don't even want a truck once the Matrix dies. My main gripe with the Matrix is that despite being reliable as gently caress, it kind of sucks to actually RIDE in. The interior is basically a bunch of snap-together plastic panels that are constantly falling off and needing snapped back on, it's not very comfortable to actually sit in for a long time, and it's LOUD AS HELL inside when you're on the highway. But it has gotten pretty nice gas mileage and with only a few exceptions has never failed to start when we need it to and get us to where we're going. So here's what we got: Proposed Budget: $15000, max. We're thrifty bitches and aren't taking out any new loans New or Used: used Body Style: I'm flexible. It's just the two of us so we don't really need 4 doors. How will you be using the car?: driving very short distances to work and also semi-frequent road trips (we have family a few hundred miles away and visit them with some regularity). Sometimes we like to gently caress off to remote wooded areas on gravel or uneven roads What aspects are most important to you? reliability and also as smooth and quiet on the highway as possible so I can hear my podcasts and homebrew electronic ambient DAWless jams in peace. Other than that I don't really care about bells and whistles like heated seats or a back up cam or sunroof or whatever. Location: I am in the Indiana part of the USA Thanks, appreciate any suggestions
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Reliable, quiet, affordable? Sounds like "the nicest Lexus you can afford" to me. Maybe a high-trim Toyota where the line blurs between Lexus and Toyota.
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