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Copernic posted:The amount of people unloading on Neon Yang is INSANE and hosed UP. These are all people acting on the principle that it was very bad when a twitter mob drove a mentally fragile trans person nearly to suicide. And they're doing the exact same thing to Yang! No one has learned anything. It's cool that these people drove a woman to detransition, made a bunch of "well who can say who was really wrong" posts refusing to cop to their transmisogyny, and then have you all coming to paint them as the victims
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You appear to have chosen the tweets in that whole thread which make Neon Yang appear in the absolute worst light possible? This thread seems like it has to be getting linked from several feuding discord channels or something.
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Jul 1, 2021 23:15
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Please stop. Nothing will be helped by destroying more people.
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Jul 1, 2021 23:18
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so does anyone have matt stover opinions then?
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Jul 1, 2021 23:20
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StashAugustine posted:so does anyone have matt stover opinions then? I loved the two Barra the Pict (Iron Dawn and Jericho Moon) books and I was disappointed more didn't get written in that series or at least world. I loved The Acts of Caine (Heroes Die, etc.) but I freely acknowledge it is 90s as gently caress in simultaneously the best and worst ways. His Star Wars books were fine (well, Revenge of the Sith is better than the movie, but that wasn't that hard). If he got canceled, I missed it.
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StashAugustine posted:so does anyone have matt stover opinions then? I hope he's all right, since I don't think's published anything in 5+ years. The Caine books got me hooked on Sci-Fi & Fantasy (literally both  ) at a time in college where I had pretty much lost interest in reading for fun. Really got hooked on them.
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No, I was just asking about the Pict books last page and wanted to make sure it got seen lol. I'll have to hunt down copies sometime then E: some good news I got pointed to a bit back: https://mobile.twitter.com/MWStover/status/1393899958940704771 StashAugustine fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Jul 1, 2021 |
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I loved Heroes Die, and actually found out about it thanks to one of this thread’s prior incarnations. What do you guys think of the followup? I started it, but thought it was absurdly slow compared to the first one and put it down.
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fritz posted:RE: nonbinary authors, Raphael Carter in the 90s had one book (which I haven't read) and this short piece: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congenital_Agenesis_of_Gender_Ideation which is something that's really stuck in my brain over the years, plus the "Androgyny RAQ (Rarely Asked Questions)" (https://web.archive.org/web/20150321072424/https://practicalandrogyny.com/raq/); I don't know how influential it was but it was there. Raphael Carter's The Fortunate Fall is excellent. If the opening bit I've put below intrigues you, give it a go. Sadly, it's out of print - I had to buy my copy secondhand. Raphael Carter - The Fortunate Fall posted:The whale, the traitor; the note she left me and the run-in with the Post police; and how I felt about her and what she turned out to be—all this you know. I suppose I can't complain. I knew the risks when I became a camera. If you see something important enough, your thoughts become a coveted commodity: they steal your memories and sell them tied in twine. Now you may find my life for sale in certain stalls, on dusty street and twisting alleyway; it is available on moistdisk, opticube, and dryROM. There are places on the Net where you can make a copy free, although the colors may have faded to sepia and the passions to pastel. You have taken my memories and slotted them into your head. And you have played them through, reclining on a futon in some neon-streaked apartment, reliving my every sensation and thought from the hour underground with the whale.
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StashAugustine posted:twitter: it's not good, folks General Battuta posted:Please stop. Nothing will be helped by destroying more people. Yeah, I don't want to shut down productive discussions but maybe it's time we all just moved on and talked about other topics if that's ok.
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Hey sooooo anyone listen to any good audiobooks lately? I just finished up Project Hail Mary, the latest Martha Wells and Becky Chambers, and The Blacktongue Thief. Can't figure out where to go next.
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A Proper Uppercut posted:Hey sooooo anyone listen to any good audiobooks lately? I just finished up Project Hail Mary, the latest Martha Wells and Becky Chambers, and The Blacktongue Thief. Can't figure out where to go next. Follow Me to Ground by Sue Rainsford was an absolute treasure in audiobook form. The narrator got the wild, small-town weird feel of it just right and I think I enjoyed it more because it was an audiobook than if I'd read it. e: I'm also still listening to Rob Inglis' Lord of the Rings, which is amazingly good. I feel like I'm sitting in front of a fire listening to my grandpa read a story to me before bed. Well, my fictional grandpa. My real grandpa only read the bible.
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I'm on track to finishing a manuscript by the end of July and the absolute cataclysm of Internet-brained stupidity that is Book Twitter makes me wonder if I'm completely insane to be entertaining any thought of wading out into that morass.
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BurningBeard posted:I loved Heroes Die, and actually found out about it thanks to one of this thread’s prior incarnations. i loved the rest of the series but they're very odd.
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Why would you have to? Let your story loose and move on. Publishing under a pen name is a good move though.
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Milkfred E. Moore posted:I'm on track to finishing a manuscript by the end of July and the absolute cataclysm of Internet-brained stupidity that is Book Twitter makes me wonder if I'm completely insane to be entertaining any thought of wading out into that morass. https://twitter.com/susie_c/status/963201763149950977
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A Proper Uppercut posted:Hey sooooo anyone listen to any good audiobooks lately? I just finished up Project Hail Mary, the latest Martha Wells and Becky Chambers, and The Blacktongue Thief. Can't figure out where to go next. Both Gideon the Ninth and Harrow the Ninth are amazingly narrated. The Nightvale books (It Devours and Welcome to Nightvale) are both pretty good, although I may have enjoyed the narration more because the narrator is the same as the one from the podcast. Depending on how you feel about Neil Gaiman, he performs his own books The Ocean at the End of the Lane and Neverwhere which are excellent. The audiobook version of American Gods is well-done too, but not narrated by him. One of my favorites is Pratchett’s Tiffany Aching series. That narrator goes full bore with the accents for the Nac Mac Feegles and it is wonderful. There is also a full thread on audiobooks, on mobile so I can’t really link right now.
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Mrenda posted:After thinking about this for the past thirty minutes I'll just accept the Attack Helicopter story isn't for me. For a trans person who's dealing with ideas and questions around performance, validity and reinforcements of your identity, I guess it could be really helpful. Just wanted to say that your back and forth on this was super interesting and I wish there was more posting like this in the thread.
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neongrey posted:i loved the rest of the series but they're very odd. The second one was super gross (oozing sores from top to bottom) and basically killed my interest in the series, which was very high after the first book.
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buffalo all day posted:Just wanted to say that your back and forth on this was super interesting and I wish there was more posting like this in the thread. Likewise. As far as Blade goes, I’ll just consider it a good skip then. I liked the dystopic poo poo as a background rather than the main draw. I felt like the first one ended in a mostly satisfactory way. unattended spaghetti fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Jul 2, 2021 |
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Speaking of SF/F books, Angry Robot is having a sale on all their ebooks this weekend! https://twitter.com/angryrobotbooks/status/1410614196417437700?s=19
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BurningBeard posted:I loved Heroes Die, and actually found out about it thanks to one of this thread’s prior incarnations. I think there were three in all? I liked them overall, but it's a clear case that none of the books improves on the one before.
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DreamingofRoses posted:One of my favorites is Pratchett’s Tiffany Aching series. That narrator goes full bore with the accents for the Nac Mac Feegles and it is wonderful. The Tiffany Aching series is some of his best stuff. You really can't go wrong with a protagonist who, at age 9, discovers a few monster luring in the creek, stakes her little brother out as bait, and then bashes the monster with a cast iron frying pan. It's one of the best growing up and coming of age series out there.
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genericnick posted:I think there were three in all? I liked them overall, but it's a clear case that none of the books improves on the one before. Four total. I disagree about the quality dropping but with how the series goes off the rails I'm also not going to really fight for it in that sense. I feel like the best way to describe the series as a whole is as about struggling with toxic masculinity while also being deeply, deeply poisoned by it, and that's something that makes them hard to recommend to a lot of people. They are very frustrated books, I think. Now I just wanna reread em all with an eye to how I've got a different view of my own gender since the first time I read them...
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Blood of Elves (Witcher #1) by Andrzej Sapkowski - $2.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00276HAEY/ Dragon Keeper (Rain Wilds #1) by Robin Hobb - $1.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00338QEUG/ The Legend of Eli Monpress by Rachel Aaron - $2.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0058ECNXU/ Darkdawn (Nevernight Chronicle #3) by Jay Kristoff - $1.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079DWH5XV/
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FewtureMD posted:Speaking of SF/F books, Angry Robot is having a sale on all their ebooks this weekend! Any books in particular worth checking out? pradmer posted:
This is a-ok, very much in the vein of Six of Crows or other "magical heist, rapscallion main character, assortment of variously aligned companions" books. I ended up kind of losing momentum partway through the third, but not bad!
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foutre posted:Any books in particular worth checking out? I really liked Jay Posey's outrider series, if you like small squad military scifi about backed up special forces soldiers. He is a video games writer so it has a story to set piece cycle but it's better than most in that genre. Embedded by Dan Abnett of Warhammer and comics fame is not bad about an embedded journalist riding a soldier in combat via a neural implant. Tim Pratt isn't bad and Kameron Hurley is published by them too now.
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Ccs posted:Between Two Fires is getting a special edition release. This cover is definitely better than the original but it’s still a bit weird... like if they had gone a bit more painterly and a bit less photorealistic on the faces that’d be nice. yeah it rather undersells the times in that book where we actually see proper demons appear and basically tear reality with how horrible they are
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Ccs posted:Between Two Fires is getting a special edition release. This cover is definitely better than the original but it’s still a bit weird... like if they had gone a bit more painterly and a bit less photorealistic on the faces that’d be nice. guess this is a good excuse to get a hard copy.
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Orconomics by J Zachary Pike - $0.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O2NDJ2M/ How Long 'til Black Future Month? by NK Jemisin - $3.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FSLQXY8/
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I’m making my way through The Belly of the Bow, the second in KJ Parker’s Fencer trilogy. As his understanding of fencing felt very convincing in the first book, the second makes banking and bow making very credible. To compare again to Abercrombie, The First Law likes to play with the idea of banks as horrible engines of oppression, but the means of how they do so is vague. It’s basically, they hit people with loans with bad interest rates. Parker understands banking to a greater degree and so his explanation of how a bank can end up running a country and a war doesn’t feel like a smug comment on “oh capitalism wants endless war” but rather reads as specific to the situation. There’s a much more thorough presentation of the interaction between trade, competition, interest rates, foreign exchange, and markets. Most of the loving detail is surrounding bows and banks, as it’s lacking in terms of painting a picture of the world. I can not distinguish Scona from Shastel from the Island without being told that’s where the characters are. Everything just seems to happen in the same sort of dreary landscapes with the occasional fancy marble building. It’s not that the narrative lacks scene description, but none of the setting has much atmosphere aside from “here’s a place with some trees and mud where people are going to do petty things that will probably get a lot of folks killed.” The City in the previous book had much better imagery. I’m hoping we get off these islands in the next book and on to somewhere more interesting.
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