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crazy eyes mustafa posted:I decided I'll buy the Blacksmith at the end of the year if I can't convince myself otherwise or don't convince myself to get it sooner. I like that roof. The closer I look I realize overall it's a very agreeable composition and well-designed set. It's a good set. It's no Pirates of Barracuda Bay, but it's really cool.
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A few years ago the movie Hotel Artemis came out, and I read an interview with the director. He gave some quote that I think about sometimes, where he said that his goal making movies wasn't to make a movie that everybody liked, but to make a movie that would be one person's favorite movie. I feel like the Monkie Kid sets are the Lego version of that -- they're not for me, but if I was a kid and that was my *~aesthetic~*, I'd be overwhelmingly happy. In the same way that I'm not convinced Alien Conquest from a few years back wasn't exclusively designed for me.
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Jul 24, 2021 01:41
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The Voice of Labor posted:https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/demon-bull-king-80010 I will never buy it but that is glorious. I love the use of color.
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Jul 24, 2021 01:43
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xzzy posted:I will never buy it but that is glorious. I love the use of color. Yeah this is one of those sets that if someone gifted it to me or the kiddo we’d say thank you and be very genuinely pleased, but if they ever asked “how did the set build” we’d be answering “I dunno, but did you know you can build a fabulously fuchsia rocket ship out of the parts?”.
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Jul 24, 2021 01:54
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I thought the Monkie Kid sets were pretty cool.
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Jul 24, 2021 01:56
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crazy eyes mustafa posted:I decided I'll buy the Blacksmith at the end of the year if I can't convince myself otherwise or don't convince myself to get it sooner. I like that roof. The closer I look I realize overall it's a very agreeable composition and well-designed set. Are there smaller sets that I can add to the Blacksmith to make it look more "busy"? I wish they sold a small minifigure set to flesh out the Blacksmith a bit more.
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Jul 24, 2021 02:26
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Chairchucker posted:I thought the Monkie Kid sets were pretty cool. looking at them I'm inclined to agree but they're all $100+. I get that that is the lego premium for building a playset and including a few minifigs, but that's a lot of money for stuff where the target demographic is kids. also, dang, you put together your $100+ dollar 1000 piece lego set and you're a kid, you're going to want to play with it. that seems very much on the edge in terms of lego fragility. I thought the 2016 bionicles were the bees knees when I put them together. even with extra armor and articulation and stuff, compared to the monkey kid mechs they look like garbage. the bionicles, for something that was meant to be used as a rock em sock em robot are also not all that sturdy. like, brick sets can be rewarding building puzzles or cool toys but not really both
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Has anyone ever tried ordering lego sets or MOC bricks from aliexpress? The price the old pirate ships go for on ebay/bricklink has me searching far and wide to avoid that and the prices on aliexpress seemed p good, and I found some listings that had reviews + pics of the product. Wanted to ask here first before I take the plunge.
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Jul 24, 2021 04:54
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Jul 24, 2021 04:57
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While there is nothing morally wrong with getting a knockoff of a popular, expensive, or out-of-print set, you'll see when you're putting it together that it just ain't Lego. Most people won't get close enough to notice but the actual clutch of the pieces is a bit different depending on the manufacturer. YourWOBB is a good place to get such a set.
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Jul 24, 2021 05:16
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PKMN Trainer Red posted:A few years ago the movie Hotel Artemis came out, and I read an interview with the director. He gave some quote that I think about sometimes, where he said that his goal making movies wasn't to make a movie that everybody liked, but to make a movie that would be one person's favorite movie. I feel like the Monkie Kid sets are the Lego version of that -- they're not for me, but if I was a kid and that was my *~aesthetic~*, I'd be overwhelmingly happy. In the same way that I'm not convinced Alien Conquest from a few years back wasn't exclusively designed for me. Me, but with the Monster Fighters set.
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The Voice of Labor posted:https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/demon-bull-king-80010 Great use of the Metalbeard beard.
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I can see Vidiyo testing well...when the testing environment has iPads and phones for the kids to use, but the $60 android tablet they got 4 years ago won't run the app and dad won't let you borrow his phone for long. And the loving blind boxes.The Voice of Labor posted:looking at them I'm inclined to agree but they're all $100+. I get that that is the lego premium for building a playset and including a few minifigs, but that's a lot of money for stuff where the target demographic is kids. also, dang, you put together your $100+ dollar 1000 piece lego set and you're a kid, you're going to want to play with it. that seems very much on the edge in terms of lego fragility. I mentioned this in the discord: I posted:There are some neat sets in the line, but it seems to skew strangely expensive. Including a brickheadz and a polybag, there are only six sets that are under $50. There are 8 over $100! I'm sure there are tons of kids who desperately wanted those kickass giant robots, but then mom sees the price at Target and then points the kid towards something cheaper and part of a line they already have lots of, like Star Wars or Harry Potter or Ninjago. There are certainly expensive sets in those lines, but there seem to be more at more accessible prices. I'm worried Lego's starting to price themselves out of experimentation by making such large, intricately detailed sets in kid-focused lines. As is my wont, let's look at the past. 1990-91. Inflation has about doubled since then, so $10 then is like about $20 these days. M:Tron is your jam. It was only 8 sets, but that's OK because every year there's another cool faction to get. 1478, 6811, 6833 are your pocket-change sets. $3, about 30 parts and include a built vehicle and a minifig. 6877 is $6.35, and 6896 is $11. 6923 is $24, 6925 is $36, and the holy grail of 6989 is $60. The entire line would run you $146. 8 sets, a dozen minifigures, and enough magnets to kill your baby sibling. Adjusting for inflation, it's like a $300 line, with 3 $5.99 sets, a $12 set, a $20 set, and 1 $50, 1 $75, and 1 $120 set. Monkie Kid has one $5 polybag set that has a minifigure and just includes a motorcycle, and another one that isn't even a proper set, just some parts you can use to 'build your own' Monkey King. Then there's one $13 set with 50 pieces that just build microscale vehicles with three minifigs, a $25 set (cheapest buildable vehicle), 2 $35 sets, 10 between $50 and $100, and 8 $100-170 (7 of these have about the same or more pieces than the entire M:Tron line). The line is three times larger than M:Tron, and six times more expensive. There are effectively 8 loving holy grails in the line!
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Pyroclastic posted:I can see Vidiyo testing well...when the testing environment has iPads and phones for the kids to use, but the $60 android tablet they got 4 years ago won't run the app and dad won't let you borrow his phone for long. And the loving blind boxes. What I find a bit confusing about these PR statements is that they always stress how well the product line they are just cancelling tested…I mean, I could understand that on an investors call or something, but not on a PR statement. IIRC it was the same with….uhh…was it Bionicles? They said no other product line tested as well as this one, but we sadly have to cancel it because the rest of the world doesn‘t like it. …and Bionicle introduced a ton of cool pieces (might still be a different line I am thinking of, but IIRC it was bionicle…might as well have been hidden side or something).
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If the product line hadn't tested well, they wouldn't have put it out in the first place. It just feels like them covering their rear end against anyone who might think they aren't even trying to make good products
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Personally I think the move should be away from "interactive" electronic bits and bytes. It's already an interactive toy, that's literally what you're doing the entire time you're building or playing with it!
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Well in an era where parents are content to drop a phone into their kids' hands and that kid is content spending the rest of their lives playing games on it, interactive toy companies really need to come up with a way to compete. Lego has had their heart in the right place but nothing has really caught on. Either it's too expensive to give to kids in any significant amount or it's based on stuff no one gives a poo poo about (like AR).
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Jul 24, 2021 15:06
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You guys have convinced me. LEGO needs to go back to basics. Classic Space.
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I think it’s not been helped by the Vidiyo app generally not working. You can’t save or really edit any of the vids, it take an age for it to recognise the minifigs, spends forever loading (even over wifi), and hangs a lot.
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Jul 24, 2021 15:37
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xzzy posted:Well in an era where parents are content to drop a phone into their kids' hands and that kid is content spending the rest of their lives playing games on it, interactive toy companies really need to come up with a way to compete. This is called "missing the point"
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Cool, thanks for the update.
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"Building toys need to compete with video games" yeah makes perfect sense because when I'm putting blocks together what I'm thinking is "I wish this was actually a video game" so they need to change their business to compete directly with video games. Makes perfect sense if you don't think about it in any way whatsoever Just release stud.io on a disc/Steam and call it a game if that's the M.O. lol. "Gamifying" toy bricks is just stupid- you're supposed to make the game with the blocks! It's so simple you could almost miss it.
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I can think of a lot of things that would "test" well with me so long as I don't actually have to buy it. Those prices are far beyond what even parents who know how expensive this stuff is are willing to put up with for how little you actually get. Is the solution for the company to throw good money after bad because surely they just didn't try hard enough or make it "interactive" enough? Remember that interactivity is both an actual thing as well as a buzzword, and Lego already has the former in spades. Did Hidden Side need all that extraneous crap or would it have been fine as just a spooky ghost theme? Less of a money pit that way for sure.Waltzing Along posted:You guys have convinced me. LEGO needs to go back to basics. Classic Space. Yeah like cmon there is no reason for them to be expending time or effort on anything else if they aren't giving us this. PoBB was nice, but give us a whole new line of Pirates. Same with Space, and Castle- one or two sets every few years does not an itch scratch!
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veni veni veni posted:That new tie fighter is only $30 on Amazon right now, so I grabbed one to do an interceptor conversion. It's not like Lego is ever going to give me one so I guess I have to make it happen myself. https://www.lego.com/en-us/service/buildinginstructions/6206 https://www.lego.com/en-us/service/buildinginstructions/7181
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Spookydonut posted:https://www.lego.com/en-us/service/buildinginstructions/6206 Yeah but those are old as hell. I have the small one and it’s terrible by modern standards as were most or all SW sets of the time. We’ve had a TIE Defender since then, which, like, cmon.
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looking at the hidden side stuff. some uv or ir ink printed bricks and a uv or ir flashlight would've kinda done the same thing without needing an iphone. as was mentioned earlier in the thread, all the data lego gets to mine off its users devices totally offsets anything they didn't get in sales. speaking of mining. since lego already has the minecraft license, they should maximize interactivity by releasing a brick forge, then kids can go collect empty plastic bottles as their resource harvesting, toss them into the forge and construct their stuff with the resulting bricks
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The Voice of Labor posted:looking at the hidden side stuff. some uv or ir ink printed bricks and a uv or ir flashlight would've kinda done the same thing without needing an iphone. as was mentioned earlier in the thread, all the data lego gets to mine off its users devices totally offsets anything they didn't get in sales. Letting kids play with molten plastic sounds like a great idea.
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RatHat posted:Letting kids play with molten plastic sounds like a great idea.   but also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTFiJAH63xo I had this but my parents did the actual putting in/taking out of the metal trays that would bake in the "oven"
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crazy eyes mustafa posted:
I had this one https://youtu.be/MqDs_URncBQ I assume it must be some really soft metal but still. I somehow avoided burning myself. EDIT: Apparently it’s solder so it “only” gets as hot as a soldering iron.
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Waltzing Along posted:You guys have convinced me. LEGO needs to go back to basics. Classic Space. i would love a space set in the same vein as Barracuda Bay
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Waltzing Along posted:You guys have convinced me. LEGO needs to go back to basics. Classic Space. No to space, yes to Aquazone.
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Booyah- posted:i would love a space set in the same vein as Barracuda Bay I feel like it’s only a matter of time.
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Jul 24, 2021 21:11
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Benny’s Spaceship was almost that.
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Earth posted:No to space, yes to Aquazone. Someone mentioned earlier itt this was originally going to be a space theme for a water planet, which makes a lot of sense
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crazy eyes mustafa posted:Someone mentioned earlier itt this was originally going to be a space theme for a water planet, which makes a lot of sense Yep, though I probably wouldn't have loved it as much as Aquazone. https://brickipedia.fandom.com/wiki/Sea-Tron My collection is prodigious. I've told my partner multiple times that if we needed money the only sets I couldn't get rid of would be Aquazone. If I get one more series I'd keep Islanders too. It's unfortunate my two favorite series will never see new sets. I bought Barracuda Bay just because it references an Islanders set. That's how much I love those series. EDIT: Great news, my Daily Bugle is on the way and they did do the double points! Earth fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Jul 24, 2021 |
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Not to mention that back in those days, sets would typically have a shelf life of around three years, so you had plenty of time to get them before they were gone. These days, most regular retail sets are in stores for a year at most, so it's easy to miss out if you're not careful (or don't have much disposable income)
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Earth posted:No to space, yes to Aquazone.
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