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the smt games are super sparin with revival spells too, so in 4 if your mc wipes your only real shot is to blitz whatever killed him and hope you kill it first. idk, both versions have their problems
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Yakuza 7 has the game over on MC death and so that means that you have to keep your best gear for your MC and pamper him full of health at all times, what is this an escort mission? this lowers strategies imo im smt 4 and 4.5, this adds value to the skill that lets demons use items so they can revival bead your dead rear end and that's cool
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Chuck Buried Treasure posted:But seriously I’m undecided. I’m on 4 now which is a game over only on full party wipe and it’s an interesting contrast. Both being able to save anywhere and being able to survive the MC’s death makes it so that enemies are way more unforgiving and you’ll regularly get one- or two-shotted even by regular enemies, as opposed to 3 where it’s harder to get owned completely like that but the consequences are harsher if you do Just now I'm in a dungeon which has multiple save terminals which can send you back to the entrance. That's the real brilliance of the game here: it's not actually THAT harsh, you can save relatively often. But it keeps asking the risk/reward question. Do you keep going with half MP? Do you really want to walk all the way down here again? The save is there so that takes a lot of pressure off, but the question always remains. Sick game
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Aug 3, 2021 16:42
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Game over on MC death ftw. Why would demons continue to follow a weakling who died. SMTIV Apocalypse brings it back on the hardest difficulty and that's the last one I played so I honestly forgot IV removed it, glad that it's back in SMTV
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Aug 3, 2021 17:03
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I don't think game over on MC death is bad but it's probably not good design to couple it with mudo/hama style spells that can target the MC. Maybe make them reduce his HP to 1 instead (they can still kill other enemies). Note that I may be slightly biased at the moment on this one
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Aug 3, 2021 17:10
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aftre losing to a lucky crit from ongyo-ki, i've actually decided the games brain guy is right. death to mc death game over
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Aug 3, 2021 17:12
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in 4.5 it's a toggleable handicap so that's for the better yay for masochist toggles boo for easy modes
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Aug 3, 2021 17:21
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Nocturne physical copy for $35 on Amazon right now 
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yeah my only issue w it is that theres instant death spells that can kill the mc. coupled with no quicksaving theres a chance the game will just gently caress you over and waste your time
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:played through all 20 levels of the insane puzzle boy thing, walked out the door and got killed by a mudo for the first time. smiling serenely and visualising placing the game disc in a sock drawer next to f-zero Lol I just finished this part so I equipped the null:dark magatama and ran for the terminal. You may have saved a life today < 
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Aug 3, 2021 21:20
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The game gives you plenty of things to defend against 1hko spells, stop being babies. Magatama, 3 different use items, spells, etc. Yeah you can get sniped but once you know who the mudo/hama enemies are it's hardly a major issue
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Aug 3, 2021 21:24
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this might have bothered me in other games, i can't recall specifics, but it's never been an issue in any SMT game i've played. they're just drat good.
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Bolverkur posted:this might have bothered me in other games, i can't recall specifics, but it's never been an issue in any SMT game i've played. they're just drat good. I remember thinking it was bullshit that the final boss in FF13 had a death spell when no other enemy in the game had it. But now that I think about it there may have been one high level hunt monster that used it
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I think if you go into a game knowing that if the MC dies it's game over then everything is fine. Nocturne itself doesn't make a point of actually telling you this (it's prob in the manual somwhere) so if you don't know the first time that happens to you it's a very harsh lesson indeed. After that though, you stop being a baby and play the game
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the mc has to verbally walk everyone else thru the use of the revival bead or whatever every time, which is why when he dies its game over
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mycophobia posted:the mc has to verbally walk everyone else thru the use of the revival bead or whatever every time, which is why when he dies its game over I realize some demons are too loving stupid to use it but surely a fiend like Matador should know how.
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Eh if you need a story justification I figure even good demons aren't going to want to keep following some chump that got himself killed. It's extremely funny that Dante can't be bothered reviving you though lol Finished the Obelisk, was kind of boring but for all it got hyped up as a big tough dungeon it was pretty straightforward and the boss went down in a couple of turns. Didn't take as long to get to this point as I remember and kind of sad that I'm about halfway through already, I never want these games to end... but I've never played past this point before so I'm excited to see what's coming.
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just beat the obelisk and fuckin obliterated black rider with a critical buffed/debuffed divine shot for more than 3000 damage. the third kalpa awaits...
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ps, theres like three other people right where i am so post your demifiends
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this is my guy. i'm going through the obelisk right now  
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Aug 5, 2021 00:37
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Fog Breath/War Cry combo ftw
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praying you get a phys skill soon
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Daikatana Ritsu posted:praying you get a phys skill soon same 
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i just realized SMT5 is 3 months away, god drat!!! :hype:
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Fungah! posted:ps, theres like three other people right where i am so post your demifiends    
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Daikatana Ritsu posted:i just realized SMT5 is 3 months away, god drat!!! :hype:
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Pablo Nergigante posted:If you come back to the prison later there's a Black Frost boss fight in the same room as the other boss this tip helped me find one of the four magatama i ws missing, grazzi. three to go and i think i've seen three of the four Reasons, just waitin for yuko to get her poo poo together. musubi seems like the best option so far, i'm gonna guess yukos is to create a world just like the old one and musubi is better than that. third kalpa kicked major rear end, all the reason introduction screens are badass and isamu and chiaki's new looks are fuckin cool lol. this is makin me so hype for 5 lol, it seems like they're taking all their cues from nocturne on it. just need to find the next two fiends to get into the fourth kalpa, also i finally got my onkhot all the way into sun wukong and he's stompin rear end all over. this game pwns!!
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The best thing about getting hype for a new SMT game is that that I'm also already hype for the inevitable revision/xpac release 6 months later that's even better.
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Fungah! posted:this tip helped me find one of the four magatama i ws missing, grazzi. three to go and i think i've seen three of the four Reasons, just waitin for yuko to get her poo poo together. musubi seems like the best option so far, i'm gonna guess yukos is to create a world just like the old one and musubi is better than that. third kalpa kicked major rear end, all the reason introduction screens are badass and isamu and chiaki's new looks are fuckin cool lol. this is makin me so hype for 5 lol, it seems like they're taking all their cues from nocturne on it. just need to find the next two fiends to get into the fourth kalpa, also i finally got my onkhot all the way into sun wukong and he's stompin rear end all over. this game pwns!!
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:I'm rocking a Wukong too, I knew phys was the way to go late game but it totally dominates already lol. I've just done another subway tunnel dungeon and these aren't really very good but I think I'm closing in on endgame... lol yeah, between wukong and my inifinite mp daisoujou nothings really been a problem for a while. girimekhala was a problem but some npc clued me in that he repelled phys before i fought him and a couple incidental casters and glacial blast obliterated him
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also fog breath/sukukaja are so op in this, 2x sukukaja and fog breath in round one means the enemy cant usually hit me and a second round seals the deal
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mother harlot is an rear end in a top hat
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fusing prev. bosses and having them destroy your enemies ftw
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Fungah! posted:drat amala temple looks cool
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Oh poo poo, finished the Diet Building and now it's just on to the final dungeon? Bit of a weirdly paced game. Better go do the last two kalpas lol. Don't feel like I have anything like an endgame ready team
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is 'leveling up too much before the good Magatamas get you the good poo poo' much of a concern?
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Tokyo Sexwale posted:is 'leveling up too much before the good Magatamas get you the good poo poo' much of a concern? The level cap is actually 255, the counter just stops at 99. So unless you go completely insane grinding you shouldn't have any problem picking up whatever Magatama skills you want.
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