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https://twitter.com/EngleLaird/status/1430907085659594754?s=19 Is it 2022 yet??  Edit: this is Tamsyn's editor by the way Happy Landfill fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Aug 27, 2021 |
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I have been studiously avoiding this thread to avoid spoilers, but I've hit the halfway point in Harrow and I've figured out a twist and I'm giddy. There's weirdness around the Saint of Duty's name because his real name is Gideon, but when Harrow sliced and diced her memory, she just ctrl-f-d/replaced "Gideon" with "Ortus" and so when she ran into some other guy named Gideon she was messed up. And now that I've got that figured out, more makes sense -- we know that the Saint of Duty kicked a Blood of Eden commander out of an airlock, and we know that 9!Gideon's mom was found floating in space only saying "Gideon." So the Saint of Duty is suspicious of Harrow because he's got the spirit mojo to sense the ghost of the daughter of a rebel leader hanging around her, probably in the sword. . Anyway, pardon the live read but it was just so pleasant to figure that out before it was officially revealed.
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Aug 27, 2021 17:26
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Smiling Knight posted:I have been studiously avoiding this thread to avoid spoilers, but I've hit the halfway point in Harrow and I've figured out a twist and I'm giddy. There's weirdness around the Saint of Duty's name because his real name is Gideon, but when Harrow sliced and diced her memory, she just ctrl-f-d/replaced "Gideon" with "Ortus" and so when she ran into some other guy named Gideon she was messed up. And now that I've got that figured out, more makes sense -- we know that the Saint of Duty kicked a Blood of Eden commander out of an airlock, and we know that 9!Gideon's mom was found floating in space only saying "Gideon." So the Saint of Duty is suspicious of Harrow because he's got the spirit mojo to sense the ghost of the daughter of a rebel leader hanging around her, probably in the sword. . I absolutely love seeing other people react in real time to this book
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Aug 27, 2021 22:02
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DreamingofRoses posted:I absolutely love seeing other people react in real time to this book
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Aug 27, 2021 22:50
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DreamingofRoses posted:I absolutely love seeing other people react in real time to this book
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Aug 27, 2021 23:12
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Aug 27, 2021 23:27
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https://twitter.com/catpotion/status/1429853188589453314?s=21
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Aug 28, 2021 00:48
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Smiling Knight posted:I have been studiously avoiding this thread to avoid spoilers, but I've hit the halfway point in Harrow and I've figured out a twist and I'm giddy. There's weirdness around the Saint of Duty's name because his real name is Gideon, but when Harrow sliced and diced her memory, she just ctrl-f-d/replaced "Gideon" with "Ortus" and so when she ran into some other guy named Gideon she was messed up. And now that I've got that figured out, more makes sense -- we know that the Saint of Duty kicked a Blood of Eden commander out of an airlock, and we know that 9!Gideon's mom was found floating in space only saying "Gideon." So the Saint of Duty is suspicious of Harrow because he's got the spirit mojo to sense the ghost of the daughter of a rebel leader hanging around her, probably in the sword. . Ahahaha that whole last quarter. What an amazing ride. Most importantly, Ortus' poetry is canonically good enough to revive the dead. Laughed out loud when Mattias asked why he was suddenly speaking in meter. Too bad we didn't see the fight against the Beast, and that even with the heroic charge of the ghost cavaliers, that wasn't enough to kill it. I had thought 9!Gideon might be OG Gideon's kid, but the whole elaborate Necrolord Sperm-Jacking scheme was a complete left turn. Never before has a threesome also been a Chekov's gun. Augustine and Mercy did nothing wrong, Ianthe continues to suck. Gideon's narration was right, how can you choose the power-hoarding lying despot over your mentor? And actually, the whole plot point about the Emperor concealing the perfect form of Lyctordom resolved some of my issues with the plot of Gideon. In the first book, I was sure Teacher had to have been suborned or malevolent, because why else would be practically encourage the participants to murder each other? And then I was offput when that was apparently how the Emperor wanted it, but he was portrayed as this kindly old man at the end. Well, now that makes a lot more sense -- he didn't want the lyctoral candidates to cooperate to rediscover the perfect formula, he wanted a pressure cooker to force them to take the shortcut and kill their cavaliers so they would remain weak enough to be controlled. Also, my theory during Harrow was that the body in the Locked Tomb was the Emperor's cavalier (or original body, and the the 'emperor was actually the cavalier's body piloted by the Tomb mind), and that the lyctoral process involved stuffing the body of one of the party's away safely/in stasis while the necromancer piloted the other. I discarded that when we it seemed that nope, the body of the cav is just destroyed, so I'm happy to see that was actually close to the mark. Big questions: That epilogue. Initially, I thought this was Alecto and John Gaius in the pre-resurrection days. I thought it was revealing that the Necrolord didn't revive everyone after an extinction event. He did whatever mojo created Alecto as a cavalier/zombie monster/battery as a proof of concept, then killed everyone and revived humanity on his terms. But then it says that the POV is Camilla, and I have no idea what that's about. Harrow's last scene. My thought was initially that it represented Harrow giving into Alecto's possession/seduction -- that she'd been haunting Harrow for years, waiting for her to weaken so Harrow could be body-jacked. The timing would make sense, with the Emperor getting exploded weakening the blood ward. On the other hand, the porno mag in there made it seem like it was prepared by Gideon, and this is Harrow letting Gideon be in the driver's seat while she goes dormant. On the other other hand, Gideon doesn't want to be in the driver's seat, she wants to die, so it doesn't seem like she would prepare a nice little sleeping place. Also, it wouldn't look like the Locked Tomb. I assume that it's the Blood of Eden ship that picked up Harrow's body at the end. Only one that makes sense.
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Aug 29, 2021 16:44
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I sympathize a lot with Mercymorn because I too see someone younger than me and ask "what is this literal 8 year old doing here?"
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Aug 29, 2021 17:01
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But she's only three years old!! The narration of that part is just perfection.
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Aug 29, 2021 17:05
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I’m betting the BoE has Gideon the Ninth’s body and there will be Shenanigans with body/soul swapping. Also, the stuff that’s hosed up with the River will be solved by actually destroying the Emperor and Alecto.
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Aug 30, 2021 04:13
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DreamingofRoses posted:I’m betting the BoE has Gideon the Ninth’s body and there will be Shenanigans with body/soul swapping. Also, the stuff that’s hosed up with the River will be solved by actually destroying the Emperor and Alecto. The first part of this is confirmed in the extra material included at the end of the Harrow the Ninth paperback that someone posted a link to upthread.
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Aug 31, 2021 21:05
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I really hope at some point in the third book somebody makes a "Nona yo business" joke
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Sep 5, 2021 20:35
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Perhaps the Emperor's way to attain lictorhood was there being a willing sacrifice, but it leaves an empty vessel lictor, as it's soul chose not to be in it anymore.
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Sep 6, 2021 05:18
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it's puns and meme jokes OP they killed the Ten Billion (try the veal)
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Sep 6, 2021 05:44
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Collateral posted:Perhaps the Emperor's way to attain lictorhood was there being a willing sacrifice, but it leaves an empty vessel lictor, as it's soul chose not to be in it anymore. he tied them up and told dad jokes at them until this happened
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Sep 6, 2021 06:40
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how many lyctors DOES it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop
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Sep 6, 2021 06:49
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lyctor? i hardly knew 'er!
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Sep 6, 2021 07:16
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neongrey posted:lyctor? i hardly knew 'er! Okay I will absolutely believe this joke being in there
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Sep 6, 2021 10:52
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I think I missed a lot of the jokes by listening to the audiobook (excellently narrated though it is). I will have to give it a visual go.
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Sep 6, 2021 16:49
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https://twitter.com/chillyweirdo/status/1438349422107234311?s=21
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Sep 16, 2021 16:51
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So quick question for this thread: How "standalone" is Gideon The Ninth? Trying to decide if I should just wait for the series to be done or not.
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Sep 28, 2021 19:25
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trip9 posted:So quick question for this thread: How "standalone" is Gideon The Ninth? Trying to decide if I should just wait for the series to be done or not. Honestly, it’s pretty standalone. It doesn’t leave any major threads hanging for the specific story it covers and stands up quite well as it’s own book imo. If you like the characters you’ll get into Harrow though, and that one has a pretty concrete ending, but with a massive thread waiting to be picked up, especially if you read the version with the extra bit at the end, and then you wind up having to play the waiting game with the rest of us.
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Sep 28, 2021 19:40
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DreamingofRoses posted:Honestly, it’s pretty standalone. It doesn’t leave any major threads hanging for the specific story it covers and stands up quite well as it’s own book imo. Awesome, I wasn't sure if I'd just be kind of sitting on my hands waiting for the conclusion if I started reading now. I'm ok with wanting more, I just know if it's a super contiguous story I'm going to have forgotten everything that happened by the time Nona comes out.
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Sep 28, 2021 19:48
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You might want to leave Harrow for when Nona comes out, maybe! But Gideon is solid on its own.
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Sep 28, 2021 19:53
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Yeah I woulda been perfectly happy with Gideon as a one-off novel but I'm not sad that there are sequels.
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Sep 28, 2021 20:19
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I'm planning on doing a re-read when the next one drops because I unfortunately forgot a lot of characters before reading Harrow
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Sep 28, 2021 20:22
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harrow is great for a reread. gideon on a reread, the bath of tears turnaround is even more huh?
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Sep 28, 2021 21:03
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trip9 posted:So quick question for this thread: How "standalone" is Gideon The Ninth? Trying to decide if I should just wait for the series to be done or not. It ends with a pretty solid conclusion albeit with a sequel hook to set the next book up. The story does occasionally signal that there are things happening that you're not not going to find out more about until later. If you don't like waiting for books to be written then maybe hold off? My experience finishing Gideon was that I immediately wanted to read the sequel and after finishing the second book I immediately went and googled info on when the third would release.
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Sep 28, 2021 21:09
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The end of harrow is the cliff hangeriest poo poo in the universe
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Sep 28, 2021 22:27
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my 6yo to my 3yo, talking about moving a bunch of magnet tiles around "while you get into pajamas, I'll continue The Work" and all I could think of is Harrow's goddamn letter
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Sep 30, 2021 23:46
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silvergoose posted:my 6yo to my 3yo, talking about moving a bunch of magnet tiles around My kids are weird like this and it's honestly the best part of parenthood
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Oct 1, 2021 00:45
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silvergoose posted:my 6yo to my 3yo, talking about moving a bunch of magnet tiles around You're raising mighty Alchemists.
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Oct 2, 2021 05:18
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GTN ebook is free for a bit on Tor.com! https://twitter.com/tordotcom/status/1445374966959063046?s=20
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Oct 5, 2021 14:54
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Entropic posted:GTN ebook is free for a bit on Tor.com! Ooo, nice. Thanks for the heads-up!
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Oct 5, 2021 16:32
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https://twitter.com/rocketbelle/status/1452701403189809157 https://twitter.com/rocketbelle/status/1452711500221722633
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Oct 25, 2021 22:08
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https://twitter.com/englelaird/status/1453438891059462144?s=21
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Oct 27, 2021 20:54
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Looking forward to the “at hostpital, lost fingat” reference.
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Oct 27, 2021 21:00
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Entropic posted:Looking forward to the “at hostpital, lost fingat” reference. Second series: The Locked Hospital Trilogy. Book One, The Fingering.
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Apparently people have received Nona ARCs and I'm This year has gone on long enough how am I supposed to wait another one? Edit: source https://twitter.com/BBolander/status/1454478448869662721?t=LQbqiTt3yPg7ho0b0ByIqQ&s=19
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