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Data Graham posted:Yeah, they seem to be leaning hard on the "THIS IS A WORLD FULL OF WEIRD MAGIC WOMEN FIGHTING SATAN" angle and the all-powerful Chosen One is relegated to a sideplot i suspect that a major part of this is trying to avoid brand new viewers immediately knowing "oh the ginger guy is the chosen one, the series is about him" and have them learn along with the characters instead
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Data Graham posted:Yeah, they seem to be leaning hard on the "THIS IS A WORLD FULL OF WEIRD MAGIC WOMEN FIGHTING SATAN" angle and the all-powerful Chosen One is relegated to a sideplot my wife has no interest in fantasy but enjoyed GOT and my explanation of the show was 100% about magic women / the gender dynamic underpinning everything because thats a lot more interesting than Generic Chosen One fights Satan tbh
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focusing less on rand upfront is probably way better for grabbing attention because even if his story is interesting it's not really apparent from the start and everyone has seen a million stories about chosen dudes or whatever by now
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Johnny Joestar posted:focusing less on rand upfront is probably way better for grabbing attention because even if his story is interesting it's not really apparent from the start and everyone has seen a million stories about chosen dudes or whatever by now 
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Sep 2, 2021 18:00
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they can maybe also try to preserve some of the ambiguity about which of the two rivers kids it is, which doesn't really exist in the books because we're always in Rand's head and he's the obvious protagonist
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Sep 2, 2021 18:02
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Holy poo poo, this looks actually good! I was basically prepared for the worst, and now I'm actually hyped!
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eke out posted:they can maybe also try to preserve some of the ambiguity about which of the two rivers kids it is, which doesn't really exist in the books because we're always in Rand's head and he's the obvious protagonist yeah, it's an actual opportunity they have to try and make it a genuine question for people who never read the books, but ultimately it might be slightly difficult to hide. not sure.
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Sep 2, 2021 18:10
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Definitely agree with toning down the Ajah colours a bit but otherwise everything else seemed pretty dope, especially compared to expectations from what they released before.
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Johnny Joestar posted:yeah, it's an actual opportunity they have to try and make it a genuine question for people who never read the books, but ultimately it might be slightly difficult to hide. not sure. yeah unfortunately it won't stand up to even the slightest googling, but if your show gets big enough there'll be a significant number of people
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Who is the narrator? I'm guessing Moraine? The only complaint I have is her saying, "The one power, and women who can touch it ..." just felt kinda pandering to wokeism rather than saying "the one power, and those of us who can touch it ..." would sound more natural - you can just let the viewer conclude on their own, "oh yea they are all women!" 
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buffalo all day posted:my wife has no interest in fantasy but enjoyed GOT and my explanation of the show was 100% about magic women / the gender dynamic underpinning everything because thats a lot more interesting than Generic Chosen One fights Satan tbh And not to relitigate this once again but it could very well make the whole gender dynamic/essentialism thing more palatable for a modern audience by not making it so obviously "what all these crazy women need is a MAN to come and set things right, even if the last time they tried they hosed the world"
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buffalo all day posted:im fired up, going wild, absolutely hooting and hollering
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buffalo all day posted:im fired up, going wild, absolutely hooting and hollering
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:e: wrong thread there are no wrong threads in the turning of the wheel of time, at least for now
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Did we discuss the episodes? 1: winternight - berelon? Lore dump, egwene learning the one power from moiraine in 1 or 2 2: shadar logoth and getting separated?. Perrin with hopper, rand, mat, thom meet doman on the boat. See tower of Genji. Rand and Mat playing for food after Thom fights the mydraal? Lan/nynaeve/moraine looking for the bois 3: Everyone who is separated getting back together in camelyn? Meeting loial. Mat is healed. Discovering that they need to use the ways as the cliffhanger 4: Traveling through the ways and the blight and fighting the forsaken at the eye of the world 5: attack on fal dara where the horn is taken. Everyone sets out 6: traveling to tar valon probably and maybe nynaeve's accepted test? 7/8: training montage, seanchan, rand meeting lanfear, 5 ride forth and 4 return. Rand declares himself dargon?
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RC Cola posted:Did we discuss the episodes? 1) No Baerlon. Going by the sneak look at the script from the table read for ep1, it ends with the kids leaving Emond's Field 6) According to the metadata from the stills, ep6 has a sequence of Moiraine leading the kids through a waygate in the wilderness I am not at all convinced we're getting much of TGH in S1.
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I've always thought the walk to Caemlyn would make great television.
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:1) No Baerlon. Going by the sneak look at the script from the table read for ep1, it ends with the kids leaving Emond's Field Blood calls blood is where rand finds the dark prophecy in Fal Dara
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:I've always thought the walk to Caemlyn would make great television. Yeah the big disappointment for me here is that they're blowing through Eye of the World too fast. It's just about perfectly paced for 8 hour long episodes. Everything *after* that, yeah, speed it up, but Eye works fine. Ah well. It is what it is.
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buffalo all day posted:some stuff in there i don't recognize, like the two towers on the hill (portal stone...?) VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:6) According to the metadata from the stills, ep6 has a sequence of Moiraine leading the kids through a waygate in the wilderness Yeah this is almost certainly the Waygate. I wonder if they are skipping Caemlyn and just regrouping in the wilderness, taking a Waygate to Fal Dara, and then going to the blight. Elayne still hasn't been confirmed for S1.
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Looks great, super excited. Release is so close too!buffalo all day posted:im fired up, going wild, absolutely hooting and hollering
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Yeah the big disappointment for me here is that they're blowing through Eye of the World too fast. It's just about perfectly paced for 8 hour long episodes. Everything *after* that, yeah, speed it up, but Eye works fine. Ah well. It is what it is. If they wanted S1 to be just EOTW it'd be 5 episodes of "Run, you defenseless sheepherders! There be Trollocs in them hills!" followed by 2.5 episodes of actually cool stuff happening 
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aparmenideanmonad posted:Yeah this is almost certainly the Waygate. Yeah that seems to be the consensus that they're just skipping caemlyn entirely.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Yeah that seems to be the consensus that they're just skipping caemlyn entirely. Maybe Logain through Caemlyn will be what happens in book 2. Instead of Cairhein happening maybe we chase the horn into Caemlyn and rand meets elayne there? We need a Rand Elaida scene. That sets a lot of the series into motion. I guess Elaida can see Rand at Fal Dara and make her foretelling there, but moiraine/suian tell elaida to let rand go? Just 2 months ugh
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Trailer looks great. Rand looks great, Matt looks great, Perrin looks great, dresses are a bit in your face but whatever. Mods can we rename this thread to include [SPOILERs] as is tradition? Especially now that there's a TVIV thread?
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RC Cola posted:Did we discuss the episodes?
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https://dragonmount.com/news/tv-show/the-wheel-of-time-trailer-is-here-november-19-release-r1200/quote:Amazon will premiere the first three episodes together, then weekly release each Friday until the season finale on Friday, December 24th, 2021. Don't think I've seen that mentioned ITT yet
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Domon shows up in so many spots over such a long arc it'd be a shame to lose him.
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Pleads posted:Domon shows up in so many spots over such a long arc it'd be a shame to lose him.
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Trailer looks... alright?? I'm... hype??? The effects work on the magic wasn't great, I felt, and I'm laughing hard at the Aes Sedai's colour coordination, but the Myrddraal looked great and I love all the landscape shots. And this:  I do agree with Ccs that there's something about the overall look that's not quite... gelling. Not sure what. But I had my expectations calibrated pretty low so let's gooooo  Hieronymous Alloy posted:Yeah that seems to be the consensus that they're just skipping caemlyn entirely. No Elayne?? VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:1) No Baerlon. Going by the sneak look at the script from the table read for ep1, it ends with the kids leaving Emond's Field No Min??? I actually have no idea how you get Min into the story if you're skipping Baerlon. Comrade Blyatlov posted:I've always thought the walk to Caemlyn would make great television. Missing a great opportunity to see if it confuses as many people in motion as it did on the page 
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Min is confirmed to be cast, IMDB says she appears in the first episode. I guess they'll find a way to get her involved. Red Ajah looking appropriately cool-but-bitchy. I love how Liandrin looks. William Bear fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Sep 3, 2021 |
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KOGAHAZAN!! posted:No Elayne?? We think Elayne's cast in S2. There's been no announcement. Min has been cast, but do not go by IMDB episodes. Her actress was sighted around the same time the production was doing Fal Dara stuff, so that's where I would expect Min to show up.
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The bigger miss from skipping Caemlyn would be missing Loial.
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Sab669 posted:https://dragonmount.com/news/tv-show/the-wheel-of-time-trailer-is-here-november-19-release-r1200/ A Bel Tine eve finale, that's nice.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:The bigger miss from skipping Caemlyn would be missing Loial.  uhh uhh uhh A stedding! They can all meet up again in a stedding! "A Place of Safety", of course!
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:The bigger miss from skipping Caemlyn would be missing Loial. I wouldn't shed too many tears over him being cut frankly. There's Fades and all but I wonder how prepared this production is for an all-CGI character.
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Probably not but Domon plays a big role in Rands mental anguish.
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