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Incoming Chinchilla posted:I feel like if you work in the type of place where everyone can chat all day you could probably wear headphones and if you are in the kind of place that doesn't allow headphones they won't want chatting either. My first job out of college, I worked next to the lead developer who thought out loud. All day. Headphones helped but were not really sufficient on their own. It's draining to constantly blast music into your ears. Barudak posted:Cubicles were a common thing in the US. Companies realized they could save even more money by just forgoing all the cubicle walls and forcing everyone to open office floorplans. Outside of absolutely massive headquarters with thousands of employees that were redesigned for cubicles and then never upgraded again because that represents a real cost burden, you don't see them anymore. Cubicles were a cheap way to provide the semblance of an actual office, and the privacy it affords, without the actual work required to build actual walls and doors and such. It also allows for workers to still be able to see and participate with others when they want/need to. The original idea was much larger than what we usually get today.
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Baconroll posted:But the US Army can ! During the 1st Gulf War the American Army had a list of officially approved slurs for the enemy. It was ok to murder them, but not to hurt their feelings.
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Zil posted:They get some use at call centers, but they are crap and don't do all that well with muffling sound since everyone is packed in so tightly. loving hell. Remind me of putting blinkers on horses.
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Our previous CEO managed to poo poo the bed in every way possible. - built out a new office in a crowded metro region - They then forced a bunch of people who worked in the old office to the new one (doubling/tripling their commute) - New office was an open floor plan - They installed a fuckton of cameras ( ~1 per 5 people) with sound recording “for employee safety” Crackbone fucked around with this message at 13:41 on May 31, 2022 |
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Sep 5, 2021 18:15
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Sep 5, 2021 18:39
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all of our grad student/lecturer offices were cubicles. I don't know how old the concept of cubicles is, but these were heavy as hell and had privacy-glass windows to let in some light. looked like 1980s at the latest.
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Sep 5, 2021 18:55
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A few years after I left grad school someone proposed turning the grad student space in the management department into an open office. Apparently the response involved the phrase "monument to social scientific ignorance".
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what's kind of funny is that the original ideas/designs for what later became the quintessential "cubicle farm" -- herman miller's action office and action office 2; primarily Robert Propst and George Nelson's work on it -- are basically what open/semi-open offices look like now. The AO1system was less cubicle and more vaguely modular furniture, whereas the AO2 panel systems are more closely aligned with what turned into tall wall cubicle farms, although the intent from the herman miller system, what they recommended, etc wasn't exactly that. AO2 also used more short/half wall designs, which is what office design has swung back around to. Basically tho, AO1 was a failure that didn't sell, AO2 did. The change into what we now know as cubicle farms came from when the other big office furniture companies (eg Haworth, Steelcase) made their own versions with more of a focus on the tall walls, and Herman Miller followed suit later. Original AO2 tho, is basically today's open office furniture.
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Barudak posted:So the chinese government finally started cracking down on corporations running their workers 996 which stands for 9am-9pm 6 days a week. Bytedance, for instance, told all employees they would no longer be pressured to work Saturdays. The motto of employment in China in general is: "there's more where you came from." This is adhered to even when it is untrue. Especially when it is untrue, so as not to show weakness.
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Atopian posted:The motto of employment in China in general is: "there's more where you came from." This is called the surplus army of labor, and it’s a necessary function of capitalism
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Atopian posted:The motto of employment in China in general is: "there's more where you came from." That's just capitalism
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Improbable Lobster posted:That's just capitalism That's the joke-that-is-more-tragic-than-funny, yep.
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On paper less than 700,000 people in china make more the 1million rmb yearly salary, roughly 150k usd, which should tell you there is a staggering amount of bonus structure incentive to keep workers working. Its not rare to have 30-50% of your total salary in bonus
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Barudak posted:So the chinese government finally started cracking down on corporations running their workers 996 which stands for 9am-9pm 6 days a week. Bytedance, for instance, told all employees they would no longer be pressured to work Saturdays. Lol, the Chinese are better at their poo poo than my shop. We've been working 10 hour shifts 6 days a week at the least (sometimes 7) since the shut down last year. The company just got a new press to take some of the production over and said as a result our hours would go down to 8 a day....6-7 days a week.
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Cthulu Carl posted:Sometime back in July, we got something that is essentially big rear end Surface on a wheeled easel. There was no explanation other than "it's for meetings" (we have something like 40 conference rooms in our building, all rigged for teleconferences, none user because of covid). We've been using it to stream Netflix because gently caress it, no one's here. Sorry for the lateness but those machines have another great use besides Netflix. Opening up the Paint application lets you finger paint on a giant canvas. But minus the giant mess.
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Barudak posted:On paper less than 700,000 people in china make more the 1million rmb yearly salary, roughly 150k usd, which should tell you there is a staggering amount of bonus structure incentive to keep workers working. Its not rare to have 30-50% of your total salary in bonus Or possibly more. I knew someone who was a lecturer at a Chinese university. The pay was rock bottom, about equal to the lowest you'd get anywhere in the West at the most provincial of universities, but there substantial bonuses and money awarded if you published in a good journal. And if you bought in grant money, it was expected that you "pay yourself". So most of your pay could be made up of extra money. Of course, the US has a somewhat requirement in 9 month contracts for lecturing, where you're not paid outside teaching terms and are expected to pay for the gap with research grants.
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One other chinese thing, its extremely common to ask for your salary before getting a job offer. The twist is they request your bank statements so they can see exactly how much is deposited into your account each month. Refusing to share your statements as a Chinese national is typically a hard pass on hiring you, so enter the lucrative world of professional photoshopping bank statements.
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nonathlon posted:Or possibly more. I knew someone who was a lecturer at a Chinese university. The pay was rock bottom, about equal to the lowest you'd get anywhere in the West at the most provincial of universities, but there were substantial bonuses and money awarded if you published in a good journal. And if you bought in grant money, it was expected that you "pay yourself". So most of your pay could be made up of extra money.
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Marmaduke! posted:Wonder how many millions his severance package was The CEO of the last company I worked for was forced out for being in charge of one of the most disasterous projects in American corporate history and yet somehow was paid over $65 million to leave. poo poo like this should cause unrest yet things just continue rolling along. I guess I can rest well knowing that I'll never be paid enough to retire in absolute loving luxury for causing a disaster that almost bankrupts the company and causes enough damage to permanently affect the global status of said company for the foreseeable future. Also, cubicles aren't great but they're better than sitting at these desk/table rows where the whole room is just noisy like a casino and you have zero privacy whatsoever.
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I have both of those cubicle styles in my office, on the same floor, next to each other, and the type you get is determined solely by how valuable your position is to the company.
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Local Weather posted:The CEO of the last company I worked for was forced out for being in charge of one of the most disasterous projects in American corporate history and yet somehow was paid over $65 million to leave. What was this? Target's expansion into Canada?
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Local Weather posted:The CEO of the last company I worked for was forced out for being in charge of one of the most disasterous projects in American corporate history and yet somehow was paid over $65 million to leave. poo poo like this should cause unrest yet things just continue rolling along. I guess I can rest well knowing that I'll never be paid enough to retire in absolute loving luxury for causing a disaster that almost bankrupts the company and causes enough damage to permanently affect the global status of said company for the foreseeable future. You either also worked at Palm-then-HP or this country sucks even more than I thought.
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Sounds like Boeing and the 737 MAX fiasco.
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a mysterious cloak posted:I would agree - Office Space is dated, but it still holds up in all the ways you mentioned - cube hell, soulless job, etc. Plus, printer scene! Nursing supervisors/management do not give a poo poo. They'll just up the patient ratio, utilize the float pool, etc until they can toss another fresh grad into the grinder. You put way more effort into that than I ever have leaving a unit or organization. Mine are always "This is my official two weeks notice, my last date will be whatever". Thanks to other nurses in my family encouraging me to get off the floor, out of the ICU, or ER and into a specialty the retention effort they put in has been fantastic. But a lot of management is really baffled at the amount of money getting thrown around right now, so just leave and get that money. I just left my current dialysis company for one of their competitors, and once my former management found out how much they offered me, they immediately pivoted from trying to get me to stay, to trying to get me to stay on PRN.
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McGavin posted:What was this? Target's expansion into Canada? That was so ridiculous. Trying to open 124 new stores while simultaneously debuting a new inventory system.
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Re: cubicles, we get tall wall cubes... but the walls are glass, they're just for sound dampening. Which is troublesome when you need to talk to people. No privacy from them though.
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Mormon Nailer posted:…or this country sucks even more than I thought. Hah, well, I think this answers that: McGavin posted:Target's expansion into Canada? Mormon Nailer posted:You either also worked at Palm-then-HP… ephex posted:Sounds like Boeing and the 737 MAX fiasco.
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Local Weather posted:The CEO of the last company I worked for was forced out for being in charge of one of the most disasterous projects in American corporate history and yet somehow was paid over $65 million to leave. Has to be Randall Stephenson w/ AT&T and Dish/DirectTV.
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I thought Yahoo's Marissa Mayer.
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I was thinking GE buying Alstom, which is now taught in business schools as one of the dumbest purchases in corporate history despite happening only like seven years ago.
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Lazyfire posted:I was thinking GE buying Alstom, which is now taught in business schools as one of the dumbest purchases in corporate history despite happening only like seven years ago. Hell yeah I love working with GE
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One of my staff dropped their laptop and broke the screen and now some of the corporate dipshits are trying to send them a bill for repairs. I tried explaining to HR that you can't do that in CA, but they just kept saying that's the company policy. My staff is super meek and is probably just going to pay the bill to avoid getting in trouble and I'm so furious at all of this.
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nonathlon posted:Of course, the US has a somewhat requirement in 9 month contracts for lecturing, where you're not paid outside teaching terms and are expected to pay for the gap with research grants. But it’s not like they’re paying you 75% of your 80k salary and saying “lmao gotcha” during the summer, they just pay you the 80k throughout the schoolyear. I think most schools even let you voluntarily sign up for spreading the money to be paid so there isn’t a gap in the summer, but why would you do that when you could just get it sooner and collect more interest with it. You also can get paid from the school in the summer if you teach one of their summer sessions which many will do because they’re probably gonna be on campus doing research or writing papers and such anyways.
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ClothHat posted:One of my staff dropped their laptop and broke the screen and now some of the corporate dipshits are trying to send them a bill for repairs. I tried explaining to HR that you can't do that in CA, but they just kept saying that's the company policy. My staff is super meek and is probably just going to pay the bill to avoid getting in trouble and I'm so furious at all of this. Use the only words that they care about; "This will make you liable".
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Hyrax Attack! posted:That was so ridiculous. Trying to open 124 new stores while simultaneously debuting a new inventory system. I was on the vendor side of that. It was a stupid clusterfuck
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ClothHat posted:One of my staff dropped their laptop and broke the screen and now some of the corporate dipshits are trying to send them a bill for repairs. I tried explaining to HR that you can't do that in CA, but they just kept saying that's the company policy. My staff is super meek and is probably just going to pay the bill to avoid getting in trouble and I'm so furious at all of this. Call legal immediately
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champagne posting posted:Call legal immediately This will solve all your problems immediately. Either they go complete scorched earth or you do when they tell you to do something illegal.
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ephex posted:Sounds like Boeing and the 737 MAX fiasco. We have a winner!
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Hyrax Attack! posted:That was so ridiculous. Trying to open 124 new stores while simultaneously debuting a new inventory system. Funny enough, I have some personal experience dealing with Target in Canada. Sobeys was the company that was contracted to provide groceries to the target stores across Atlantic Canada and our RSC was the one to provide dry goods and Debert delivered frozen goods. Target Canada was using SAP as a trial for eventual usage across their whole supply chain and thought they would have it up and running in a year. Sobeys, a well established company, implemented SAP too but it took us 5 years, 100 million dollars, and flying SAP coders from Germany to our head office to get it running. When Target Execs boasted that they were going to implement it faster and cheaper than us, we just rolled our eyes. We figured that Target was going to use their own inventory management and control software first, then use a few stores on SAP to work the issues out and then roll it out to the rest of the Canadian Stores. Target Canada launched a half-baked SAP and was told by Target to make it work. Target Canada blamed suppliers for all the issues they were having for lack of stock in their stores. However, Target had one of the most batshit insane lumping policy I have ever seen. Normally when product is short on a pallet or there is something missing on the order, the store will usually accept the pallet(s) and calls the warehouse for a credit on their account. Target's policy was "If it is not perfect, refuse the WHOLE load." We had whole loads of groceries refused because the Target store was shorted one item on their invoice. I think in Target's mind that we were suppose to conform to their standards, but we supply various banners and wholesale customers, they were a very small fraction of our overall business. We couldn't care less. That inventory was going to be sold in the next day or two so it did not hurt us in the slightest. Near the end of their time in Canada, Target Canada heard rumors that Sobeys was taking their private label stock and we were using it our Sobeys stores. That was their excuse why they had no stock in their Canadian stores. Target confronted us about this and we had to explain to them that there was no way any other banner than Target would get their private label stock and if it even ended up at our Stores, you couldn't use it as our UPC codes were vastly different. The rumors came from Target dock workers, who did not understand that a Sobeys load would share a Target load on the local runs.
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