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teagone posted:For the sake of spitballing because this is silly, the AI probably gets a notification ping when an impregnation is successful in the matrix and the farmer bots get an order to begin growing that specific baby using DNA from the two individuals who caused the ping. Then they boot up the baby's battery tube when it's "born" 9 months later inside the simulation. I mean, the machines can alter the probabilities of pregnancy such that it only happens when someone in the farm dies. No need to keep track of anyone, just set a boolean to true when it's required so that the next time someone has sex it'll start the process.
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Mister Speaker posted:Yeah, this is the biggest wrench in the gears of the whole "humans aren't born, they're grown" aspect, bigger IMO than "people are batteries." Seems like a lot of work to keep track of who's loving who. In the sequels, they repeatedly reboot the matrix with just 23 people. Earth population in 1999 was, of course, much higher.
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Sep 15, 2021 00:07
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teagone posted:when an impregnation is successful in the matrix Sure, but this is dangerously treading on 'life begins at _____' territory. How does a computer simulation decide when impregnation is successful? Randomly? Does it assign virility modifiers to everyone plugged into it? This also means that one of those tubes is for harvesting your gametes, OR that the machines jerk you off when they need to. This is a gross conversation, I'm sorry. Mister Speaker fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Sep 15, 2021 |
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Sep 15, 2021 00:08
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Mister Speaker posted:Yeah, this is the biggest wrench in the gears of the whole "humans aren't born, they're grown" aspect, bigger IMO than "people are batteries." Seems like a lot of work to keep track of who's loving who. It's millions / billions of instances of the same fairly straightforward piece of work, which is what computers are especially good at
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Sep 15, 2021 00:12
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The basic thing to keep in mind is that, being a movie about a conspiracy theory, the matrix concept does utterly collapse when investigated. The only proper conclusion is that the characters are nuts. If we actually take their claims seriously, then the world they describe has absolutely nothing in common with the actually-existing 1999. That’s why, in the sequels, the simulation is revealed to have been a janky fantasy MMORPG all along.
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Sep 15, 2021 00:18
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Mister Speaker posted:Sure, but this is dangerously treading on 'life begins at _____' territory. How does a computer simulation decide when impregnation is successful? Randomly? Does it assign virility modifiers to everyone plugged into it? This also means that one of those tubes is for harvesting your gametes, OR that the machines jerk you off when they need to. What’s really going to keep you up at night is wondering how the Matrix handles abortion. 
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Sep 15, 2021 00:20
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They just feed the dead human’s liquid remains to the living. Nbd
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Sep 15, 2021 00:21
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Mister Speaker posted:Sure, but this is dangerously treading on 'life begins at _____' territory. How does a computer simulation decide when impregnation is successful? Randomly? Does it assign virility modifiers to everyone plugged into it? This conversation is weirdly funny, but yeah, I'd guess impregnation is a true/false component baked into the matrix's codebase. lunar detritus posted:I mean, the machines can alter the probabilities of pregnancy such that it only happens when someone in the farm dies. No need to keep track of anyone, just set a boolean to true when it's required so that the next time someone has sex it'll start the process. Also this too.
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just another posted:I read through the MMO lore. Is the entire Matrix that one megacity (+ adjacent mountain range)? This reminds me of Dark City, the protagonist slowly pieces everything together and attempts to get out of the city since he has false memories of a childhood day at the beach he's desperate to prove are real, but there's no way to actually get out of the city for various reasons and then he notices that it's always night as well. Good movie. Mister Speaker posted:Sure, but this is dangerously treading on 'life begins at _____' territory. How does a computer simulation decide when impregnation is successful? Randomly? Does it assign virility modifiers to everyone plugged into it? This also means that one of those tubes is for harvesting your gametes, OR that the machines jerk you off when they need to. The Matrix Thread: The machines jerk you off when they need to
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Sep 15, 2021 01:02
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:The basic thing to keep in mind is that, being a movie about a conspiracy theory, the matrix concept does utterly collapse when investigated. The only proper conclusion is that the characters are nuts. I bet there are a lot of really tedious xSephirothhGoku420xs in Zion
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Sep 15, 2021 01:24
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Pregnancy is simulated. Morpheus thinks baby crops are harvested in his intro to Neo. You go home with infant #i2x6 whose mind was just plugged in and broadcast from Farm Pillar A. Matter is all fake in the Matrix, so this isn’t really a problem. Who knows what else those tubes and ports deliver/siphon.
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Sep 15, 2021 01:29
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teagone posted:What a weirdly specific comparison that makes zero sense given how well respected and highly regarded Morpheus is throughout Zion as both a leader and prophet. Uhh did you watch the sequels? He doesn’t have authority and they all think he’s crazy
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Sep 15, 2021 01:58
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stev posted:Right but like, does the simulation know who has virtually gotten together with who? Is some poor AI keeping track of every couple and every one night stand and making sure to simulate pregnancy and grow a human from their DNA at the appropriate time? I think there’s an algorithm that assigns a new grown baby to two people that mated in the matrix
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Sep 15, 2021 02:01
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:That’s why, in the sequels, the simulation is revealed to have been a janky fantasy MMORPG all along.  
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Sep 15, 2021 02:43
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Morpheus is the captain of a ship, not a grunt. He speaks to council members directly. And most importantly, he is the keynote speaker before the annual zion orgy. Everyone was enraptured by his motivational speech.
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Sep 15, 2021 02:47
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checkplease posted:Morpheus is the captain of a ship, not a grunt. He speaks to council members directly. The first movie makes it seem like he’s the leader of the human resistance especially the way his crew talks about him. In the sequel none of the council believes his nonsense about “the one” and most of the poo poo he said in the first film. He has no authority with the council or Zion leadership.at best he’ like an Andrew yang, SuperMechagodzilla posted:In the sequels, they repeatedly reboot the matrix with just 23 people. Bots my dude
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Sep 15, 2021 04:08
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSZSV9svSgEFreakazoid_ posted:That kind of helps me with my pet theory that everyone who escaped the matrix was actually still inside the matrix. It explains why Neo has extra powers outside of the matrix and why you can leave behind 23 individuals and have enough genetic diversity to keep the species alive.
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Sep 15, 2021 04:57
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One more sensible explanation for the matrix is that everyone inside is a bot, and those who ‘wake up’ are actually being uploaded into custom-built physical bodies.
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Noob Saibot posted:The first movie makes it seem like he’s the leader of the human resistance especially the way his crew talks about him. In the sequel none of the council believes his nonsense about “the one” and most of the poo poo he said in the first film. He has no authority with the council or Zion leadership.at best he’ like an Andrew yang, that’s just not right. i just rewatched them the other night, the whole major subplot of Revolutions in Zion pre-battle revolves around the division between the General and Morpheus, in particular that the General thinks the prophecy is bullshit but the Council members to varying degrees do take Morpheus seriously and continue empowering him, including continuing to give him resources which the General feels would be better used in Zion’s defense. they absolutely don’t think it’s bullshit. they stake their lives on it, in fact. it’s pretty clear that in the power structure Morpheus commands equal political status/respect of their government as the head of their whole military
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Sep 15, 2021 05:35
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Smith did demonstrate that programs can be uploaded into humans... interesting
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Noob Saibot posted:The first movie makes it seem like he’s the leader of the human resistance especially the way his crew talks about him. In the sequel none of the council believes his nonsense about “the one” and most of the poo poo he said in the first film. He has no authority with the council or Zion leadership.at best he’ like an Andrew yang, Comparing Morpheus to Andrew Yang is kinda yikes.
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Sep 15, 2021 06:22
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up in the loft looking for my old phone woah
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NotJustANumber99 posted:up in the loft looking for my old phone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u05gxIWYv8k
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Morpheus is like the matrix pope. Or a matrix cardinal. In zion he is the one preaching the religion of neo and many are listening to it. So while not on the council, he has a lot of influence.
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Sep 15, 2021 17:11
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i think the matrix is basically the internet for the machines
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checkplease posted:Morpheus is like the matrix pope. Or a matrix cardinal. In zion he is the one preaching the religion of neo and many are listening to it. So while not on the council, he has a lot of influence. Morpheus is Zions Bernie sanders. He has followers and plays a role in government but has little real power. Then again he uses the red pill analogy so maybe he is more like Zions Donald Trump. Either way he’s no Sheev Palpatine that’s for sure
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Noob Saibot posted:Morpheus is Zions Bernie sanders. He has followers and plays a role in government but has little real power. Then again he uses the red pill analogy so maybe he is more like Zions Donald Trump. You've compared Morpheus to a low level army grunt, a McDonald's cashier, Andrew Yang, Bernie Sanders, and Donald Trump. Lmao. What the hell.
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Sep 15, 2021 18:58
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Morpheus is everyone that libs fear simultaneously. The Matrix will Build Back Better and you need to stop undermining the system. If you think about it, the Zion rebels are EXACTLY like the Jan 6th rioters.
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Shiroc posted:Morpheus is everyone that libs fear simultaneously. The Matrix will Build Back Better and you need to stop undermining the system. If you think about it, the Zion rebels are EXACTLY like the Jan 6th rioters. Weird thoughts
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Shiroc posted:Morpheus is everyone that libs fear simultaneously. The Matrix will Build Back Better and you need to stop undermining the system. If you think about it, the Zion rebels are EXACTLY like the Jan 6th rioters. The machines are the ones who stormed Zion though....?
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Sep 15, 2021 19:44
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The machines really wasted their time as the ultra efficient lords of the earth. What is it 6 or 7 iterations of the matrix by the time our Neo comes around? That's probably several generations per Zion, so like hundreds and hundreds of years in the future. They could've gone into space tbh. Instead they were still just farming our weak asses and living under the fart cloud we left behind.
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How do we know they didn't go into space?
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Sep 15, 2021 20:05
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teagone posted:The machines are the ones who stormed Zion though....? it was a joke on the person comparing Morpheus to every lib boogeyman and pushing the idea forward into viewing a poo poo system like the Matrix into neoliberal America therefore anyone who opposes it is bad
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The United States posted:Smith did demonstrate that programs can be uploaded into humans... interesting I mean Neo did have a bunch of martial arts programs loaded into his brain.
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Field Mousepad posted:I mean Neo did have a bunch of martial arts programs loaded into his brain.
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Sep 15, 2021 21:20
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What’s a good place where I can share my Boba Fett/Matrix crossover fanfic I wrote in high school?
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Noob Saibot posted:What’s a good place where I can share my Boba Fett/Matrix crossover fanfic I wrote in high school?
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Noob Saibot posted:What’s a good place where I can share my Boba Fett/Matrix crossover fanfic I wrote in high school? 
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Morpheus is just a dumbass libertarian who stands for a generic freedom divorced from any sort of socio-economic justice. That’s why his “blow up the government” rhetoric is so curiously inoffensive. There is obvious class struggle inside the matrix, but Morpheus isn’t remotely interested in that. It simply never comes up.
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He will end all class struggle in the matrix by freeing everyone from it. And then welcome to them hierarchy of zion.
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